OMG seeing red! Post office will not deliver to our house.

Of COURSE this goes down at 5pm on a Friday afternoon, so I have to absolutely BROIL over it mentally until Monday. :mad: :mad: :mad:

We get a LOT of packages. I hate going to stores, and do a lot of on-line shopping. My husband works from home and sends and receives a ton of stuff. Lately we’ve been getting those pink “delivery” slips in our mailbox indicating a package is waiting for us at the Post Office. WTF–my husband is home; they make NO attempt to deliver.

So today my husband went and asked what was up–the answer: “your driveway is too long, so we’re not going to deliver packages to your house any more”. WTF??? Our driveway is 1/4 mile long, we’ve lived here SIX YEARS and all of a sudden it’s too long?

I am just molten. Would love nothing more than to storm in there and verbally abuse someone. However. It is Friday evening. And I really SHOULD have relevant legal ammunition before I go all . . . umm . . . postal on them Monday.

So, anyone able to help me find relevant chapter and verse on Post Office rules and regulations for dropping off packages at a home? We’re out in the sticks, but not a RR address or anything like that.

Thanks. :slight_smile:

Feeling your pain but don’t have a solution. The PO is serious f’d up. My mailbox is 1.2 miles from my home in the Phoenix area. I have a locking box because theft is a problem. There are two cluster boxes and 74 other mailboxes at this corner. If a package will not fit in my mail slot, I have to drive 20 miles and stand in line up to 40 minutes to get my parcel. There is NO reason the homes in my neighborhood should not have box locations closer to our houses. There is no room for any more boxes to be added where the current mass of them is. AND, I have seen the carrier going up a driveway of one home served by the boxes. Bribery?

I can’t select another PO, even though there is a closer one that is never busy. All I can do is try to request UPS or FedEx shipping whenever I can. They cheerfully come right to my door and the rates are about the same. At my summer home our local mail carrier was recently arrested for stealing gift cards out of the mail. Nice. The FedEx guy parks his truck on the street if my gate is closed, and walks the packages up a 500 foot long, steep gravel driveway, petting my dog. And Victor, the UPS guy, waves at me whenever he drives by. The USPS is flunking.

We’re about the same distance off a paved road, and the post office has never been willing to deliver to the door of any house in our neighborhood. You come up with something showing they’re required to do so, and I’ll be thrilled to share with our neighbors and local post office…

At least now we get the slips. In my previous house (not rural) I had the mailman return mail claiming I did not live there and had left with no forwarding address multiple times. Of course, since some of my mail was still being delivered I only knew when people told me about it - and did my best to try to get that person in trouble, but his bosses just defended him… while I continued to some days get all my mail, and sometimes have half returned to senders.

That is very annoying I personally don’t understand how they could do that. It is supposed to be a service that the sender of your items has paid for.

Delta, we get the same thing here. Tried to do something about it, but no. Sometimes, if I am lucky, they will throw the box on the grass next to the mailbox. The last time they did that the box contained our daughter’s wedding veil. Nice. Otherwise, they never attempt to deliver, just leave a notice. I am almost always here.

If you find something you can do, I would love to hear it. I’ve been told, the driveways to long, I don’t like your dogs-which bark when someone pulls in, that is what they are here for, but are in no way mean, we tried but you were not home, etc. I just think the mail service will do what they want, when they want.

If you find the answer, I would like to hear it.

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Delta, we get the same thing here. Tried to do something about it, but no. Sometimes, if I am lucky, they will throw the box on the grass next to the mailbox. The last time they did that the box contained our daughter’s wedding veil. Nice. Otherwise, they never attempt to deliver, just leave a notice. I am almost always here.

If you find something you can do, I would love to hear it. I’ve been told, the driveways to long, I don’t like your dogs-which bark when someone pulls in, that is what they are here for, but are in no way mean, we tried but you were not home, etc. I just think the mail service will do what they want, when they want.If you find the answer, I would like to hear it.[/QUOTE]

This.

I don’t know if I’d even bother bringing any sort of regulation/law to the post office. They’re probably just going to come up with some bogus excuse to work around it anyways.

USPS has zero sense of customer service. They don’t care if they have your business or not. I’m really not surprised they’re in such financial trouble.

LOL. The Post Office doesn’t even recognize that our address exists. PO box or nothing around here.

And none of the delivery companies wil deliver up there either. I have to get stuff sent to work if I evr want to see it…

No ammo for you here either but lots of empathy.

We live on a dirt road. We are about 1/4 mile (probably less) from the paved road and our mailboxes. They don’t attempt to deliver to us either. Just stick the pink slip in our mailbox.

Which can result in a long delay - especially if we aren’t expecting a package. We have a locking mailbox and I hate clutter so we only pick up our mail about once a week.

And yes, UPS and FedEx almost always leave the package (FedEx sometimes won’t if a signature is req’d) just inside our gate. And if they think it is going to rain, they put the package in a plastic bag.

Fortunately, we are relatively close to the post office and the line isn’t usually very long. I have been very tempted in the past to ask why they don’t truly attempt delivery but have always wimped out.

Well I don’t have the same problem since I live in an apartment building, so no long driveway, but I’m convinced I have the worst mail carrier(s?) in the greater northern IL area. There are six locked mailboxes in a group, right inside the door. It is literally a matter of picking Apt A, B, C, D, E, or F when the mail carrier distributes in our mailboxes. I cannot even begin to count the number of times we have gotten another apt’s mail in our box. It happens all. the. time. I frequently find mail for whole other buildings in there, and more than a few times I’ve received mail for streets that I don’t even know where they are located. It’s ridiculous! And I always wonder what pieces of mail I never received that I’m not even aware of.

My driveway is much much shorter then ¼ mile, and yet I was getting the same notices about packages being left at the post office for me to pick up. Here is the kicker… post office is open 9 – 4 week days, I WORK from 7:30 to 6:00 PM on weekdays. They are open on Saturdays for ONE AND ONE HALF HOURS, Only! So, if I do not clear my schedule to be able to get to the post office between 9:00 and 10:30 on Saturdays the I was SOL. Sometimes I package would sit at the post office for 2 or 3 weeks before I could get there during their hours!

BUT I was able to resolve it with my post office, pointed out I am WELL within the ¼ mile they are obligated to deliver, and they have now been leaving packages on the porch for me.

The notices we received when we moved in (regarding rural delivery) were very clear that they would not travel more than ¼ mile down a driveway. We could however request that packages be left with a neighbor, or out at our box (which is on a public road – I don’t think so!)

Our rural area has never ever had mail delivery.
We always had a PO Box # and went to the Post Office to get our mail.

You are lucky you get your mail delivered at all.:wink:

I am blessed with nice mail people.

The lady in the old post office where we used to work kinda cracked me up when I dropped something off to be mailed :“Do you want it to arrive?” :eek::no::lol::lol::lol::lol:

No, Lady, pack it on the slow boat to China and lose it over the Bermuda Triangle!

Sometimes I get my neighbor across the street’s mail (and I don’t like them) but I just shove their junk in their box.

My old neighbors had a bit of a problem. They had a mailbox by the fence, but then she fell and could not get out of the house without help any more. So they put a mailbox on the front porch. The post office told them they could not deliver up the porch once the mail box was by the curb…(I don’t think that was really true) but somehow they got it sorted out. It wasn’t but a few yards.

Thank goodness for tracking info.

I called and filed a complaint, so we shall see. Our postal workers are a pretty scary group of people. :frowning:

I guess I lucked out. Our mail carrier is not only nice but he likes my dog and gives him cookies. I once had him chase me down with the mail truck to offer me one of his birthday cupcakes that another neighbor had baked for him. He has told me stories about how effed up the postal system is and so I have sympathy for him. He’s worked for the postal service for over 15 years but they want him to ‘retire’ 6 months before he would get his pension, if he doesn’t, then he will be put on ‘ordered leave’ and he still won’t get his pension. I can totally see why there is no pride in doing a good job as a postal worker.

Yikes. We have the best mailman on the planet. He brings treats for EVERY SINGLE DOG at the houses he delivers to, and in my town about every third house has a dog. I’ve seen him in the grocery store buying Milkbones with his own money. I can always tell when he’s on vacation because our mail never is quite right.

My post man is great! The last guy was afraid of my dog, so he would only leave a slip. But this new guy is awesome - he also doesn’t want to interact with my dog ( I don’t blame him ) but he will pull in and honk his horn and I go running out to get my packages. If I’m not here, the dogs are inside, and he knows that so then he’ll leave the package in one of the vehicles in the driveway or something. He’s great.

Today I was leaving the arena with my horse when he pulled in and I walked over to his car with my horse in tow, and got a box from Dover. He got a kick out of seeing me leading the horse, box under one arm, mail tucked under my chin, back to the barn. heheh

Well, I can’t help you either. I can explain why some of it happens but it shouldn’t happen in the first place.

Up until last year when my regular RR carrier retired she would come cheerfully bombing up the driveway, beeping away and hand us our parcels, now I get a different truck = different driver every other day practically and I get my neighbor’s mail about once a week, or they get my mail and I discover this because it’s been marked up with red ink “not my mail” or suchlike. We have yet to receive last month’s feed bill, DH had to go to the mill and ask for a total and pay it and get a photocopy. Our parcels have been left on rocks at the end of the driveway and soaked because we didn’t see them in time. :mad:

Why it happens. Well, as far as I can tell postal employees get hired off a test that really favors the borderline Asperger’s. They have to memorize about 750 names and addresses that have no relationship to one another because they don’t drive straight down one street and up another, they have to do this winding around stuff to save fuel and be efficient. They also get penalized for being “too slow”. Every year my old carrier at my other house would come down the road in her personal car with her postmaster and they would be timing her route. Literally, with a stop watch. No BS’ing allowed! Not even a wave!
What that boils down to is that they can’t be nice like my old carrier was, or it makes it harder to be thoughtful and pleasant, and some of them (carriers) just aren’t customer service oriented anyway. But, in all fairness, I used to receive the UPS guy at a hardware store when I worked there and you want to talk about tense and impatient - he was it - if I could see him coming around the bend and be waiting on him I was good but if I was waiting on a customer, Oh my, he’d be hopping from foot to foot wiggling his board at me.

If I were you I’d go straight to the Postmaster on Monday, straight to the top, and discuss why your service is being curtailed - that you had to the door service for x number of years, you have a nicely maintained asphalt driveway (if you do) of X length, no gate or dogs or other impediments. If you have a Rural Carrier you may find you have a different one now, like I do. Or your route is not occupied (no “bidholder”) or being broken up by two or three of them because your old carrier is calling in sick a lot or having other issues. Bribery does work for RR carriers but you generally have to wait till Christmas, and if you have multiple people delivering your mail they just aren’t going to have the time, or really, the inclination to divert. Beside, you can’t bribe all of them, or I guess you could but it gets unwieldy.

Also, if you have a different Postmaster or delivery supervisor than before, there may be a different culture of service. Some Postmasters go strictly by the book - no exceptions - which means deliver to the box only. Can’t even hand the mail to a waiting customer, too much potential for liability in terms of potentially handing the mail to some non-authorized person. (Yeah, I know, some non-authorized person can take it out of the box too, but to the best of my knowledge that’s how it’s worded in the DMM, Domestic Mail Manual, which may be online). Finding your legal rights may be hard as some of them are in the union contracts. A Letter Carrier is different than a Rural Carrier Associate and operates under different rules.
Good luck on Monday. And actually you’d be better off to wait till Tuesday to have a talk with the Postmaster because Mondays are generally very busy, your issue might get lost in the sea of other issues.

Why Monday? Even my very rural little PO is open on Saturday mornings. You may have to knock on the door, but someone is there, as USPS does still deliver mail on Saturdays.

Ever see the movie Funny Farm? I have that mailman. :lol:

But Owen rocks! He’s the sweetest grouchiest old guy evah. :smiley:
My driveway is about 360’ from street to house, so not overly long. He does drive up for packages and also for:
coffee
gossip
a nap
play fetch with my GSD
a quiet place to sort mail

If he has a package, he pulls up in front of the house and waits a moment. Then hollers, “I ain’t gettin’ outta the truck dammit!” :lol:

He’s not supposed to bring packages up to the houses, but he will if he’s taken a liking to you. (or your dog, he loves dogs) He’s a wicked pissah. :cool:

Delta…if the PO won’t deliver, will they if you add a hinged box at the end of the driveway? That’s what a lot of homes have here…rear lots are common and paved driveways are rare (due to length, winters and mostly ledge/trying to pave a big rolling rock) so you see a lot of parcel boxes next to mailboxes. Some people get really cute and creative when making or painting them.