We have some pretty brilliant chicks posters on this forum. We also have KS.
What do you think KS’s excuse will be? Obviously no wrong doing will be admitted.
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You forgot the majickal hay from somewhere else
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Not to mention claiming to not PMing someone and then showing they did. 
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For anyone still wondering about breeding via ICSI, there is good brief description in this article.
The article also mentions how very hard the procedure is on the mare. It boggles my mind that someone would do this repeatedly, cycle after cycle, year after year, to a mare they supposedly love.
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It would be nice if other breeding societies would follow.
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Oh, that explains how she is using partial straws of semen bought on the cheap. From the article “ICSI is a very specialised technique which is often done for stallions who are dead or have poor sperm quality.”
Poor mares.
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Wow, how interesting. I wonder how they’re going to know how the foals were produced? Couldn’t someone just claim it was a normal insemination, or deep horn, or whatever?
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Require repro vet to sign off?
But so many do their own basic breeding work like ultrasound and insemination… What’s keeping sneaky people from sending a mare out for ICSI then falsify the paperwork claiming they did their own standard run of the mill insemination?
Some sires that are impossible or nearly so to get a pregnancy without ICSI would obviously raise red flags but what about the ones that do get foals via more traditional methods?
The vet who does the ICSI?
You think the vet who does the ICSI is going to reach out to the registry and tell them…?
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No. I was thinking that vets that do ICSI would keep records and that the registry could find a way to check the breeding records of horses that people want to register with them.
I know next to nothing about European Warmblood registries, but I would guess that they may have thought about enforcement before they announced their new rule. I could be mistaken, they may be complete idiots, but I would hope that they had thought it through.
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I can’t imagine how that would happen. How would the registry even know where to look for the vet? How would the registry compel a vet to share that information about a client?
I totally agree, which is why I’m really curious on how they see it working, and how they can identify (and prevent) fraud.
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Perhaps if anyone wants to have a horse approved with their registry, proof of the method of breeding will be required?
Rather than try to get around their requirement of no ICSI it would be easier for a breeder just to choose a different registry, wouldn’t it?
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Dumb question here - doesn’t the registries have the blood type on file? When I registered my TB I had to purchase a kit from JC (Jockey Club) and a vet used the kit to draw blood from my weanling and his office mailed it off. The turn around was pretty quick to receive the registration papers.
Were you registering your TB to the Jockey Club or to a Warmblood registry?
TBs are live cover only, breedings are recorded so DNA is all it takes.
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For the US JC they send the report to the mare owner with the DNA test kit etc but we just send hair not blood. They automatically send it when the report of live foal is submitted.you don’t have to purchase it. I dont know if it’s different in Aus.
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Full TB, live cover.
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Yes. It makes it so much more simple doesn’t it. Too bad breeding soundness isn’t considered in breeds/registries that are now mostly dependent on AI.
What other artificial methods that are not kind to the mare should not, IMHO, be allowed.
I am assuming, like so many things in life, this will require a certain amount of honesty.
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