Opinions on DHH crosses for jumping?

Ah yes, the infamous ad that refers to For Pleasure as… “infamous” :rofl:

Also got me looking at what else is out there for $45k. No wonder that poor creature isn’t selling.

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Let’s lighten the mood around here, I’ve had enough of politics…does anybody have any new Kate news?

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New sales ad, will this do?

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The mare is not something I would choose to replicate, but she does look fat, shiny, and in excellent condition. The in-utero offering is marketed as a mid-level horse, not an upper level prospect, which seems fair.

This is not an ad I would criticize. I’d just keep scrolling.

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And… there it is again. She’s advertising the mare as a “Dutch Warmblood.”

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Her coat looks wonderful! Love the color and shine. So nice to see.

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But there’s no hind end. There’s nothing back there.

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I was thinking the same thing. What hip?

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Eh in the grand scheme of what i think should be critiqued this ain’t it.

The mare is in beautiful condition and while she has some visible structural weaknesses, there are far more egregious horses being bred. I wouldn’t purchase in utero but the seller has visibility of what both sides of the equation bring to the table, good and bad.

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I see many driving horses that have a lot of neck and shoulder and a smaller hindquarters. Her trot looks big enough to tackle driving events and might be quite competitive with an amateur owner.

Our racing Standardbreds have pretty damned developed hind ends. Guess it will depend on the breed. Unless that is just an off center picture, I wouldn’t be breeding a hind end like that.

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I’ve only owned 3 standies and they were balanced. But they aren’t really “cart and wagon” types. Lots of drafts have a bum that is noticeably lighter than their shoulders.

I like Standies – they are great. And sweet. But they tend to have atrocious canters.

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I’ve heard that, two of my three had great gaits. The third had a tendency to bunny hop on trot to canter transitions.

Editing to add mine were trotters

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Same. This is one of the better ads and mare looks in fantastic condition.

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And I guarantee that mare has more knee than that trot picture let’s on from the set of her shoulder and front legs.
She is mighty healthy and shiny though!

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The mare is fat and shiny. The end. I mean at this point, why not just sell the pair for 8k? It’s time.

Can we do a little role play here?
Hi, what a pretty KWPN mare!! What is her breeding? What is her show record?
How does KS respond to this AND continue to make a sale since her ad is rubbish.

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As a complete aside, this is (apparently) a symptom of pain or degradation in the hip joints, or where that single back leg can’t generate the power for the transition so the horse uses both back legs (bunny hopping) for a single stride or two until there’s enough momentum to canter properly. I got this from an orthopedic vet who was diagnosing the same issue in a draft-X I had.

Interestingly, she said it’s more a product of how the horse is designed as a flight animal rather than a particular breed or usage. They have more cartilage than bone, and apparently certain horses degrade more than others.

WRT the mare, being in proper work could probably develop her hind end a little bit more. With a better posed photo (head lowered, square front and properly placed back legs) it would disguise it better. But, totally agree with everyone else that she doesn’t have the best conformational balance. Good flesh and shine, though.

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She’s one of the healthiest looking I’ve seen from
Kate but then we also don’t know how old it is or where it came from. It could be from
Someone else’s ad a long time ago

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That ol crazy feeding thing again. :rofl: You might be right, probably not even hers or we saw a picture of her back when showed off her stock that looked like it was waiting for a kill pen truck. Food can truly transform.

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