Our experience with once a month IM Regumate/altrenogest

There is a relatively new compounded prescription product available – generic Regumate (Altrenogest) – made by BET Pharmacy (http://www.betpharm.com/micro.htm). It creates a new option to give an IM injection every 30 days instead of daily oral dosing.

The new IM option is ~$80/month including shipping, so comparable in cost to the oral. I wanted to share my mare’s & my experience with it in an effort to inform others of this option. I actually read about it here on some more general discussions about Regumate but it was somewhat buried in other threads, so I thought it was worth its own post. Sorry this is LONG but I was documenting it for my own records anyway, so I thought perhaps the detail would be helpful to others.

Some background: I have an 11 y.o. Dutch WB x TB mare that I got as a 3 y.o. She has always had very ‘noticable’ heat cycles in terms of the peeing/squirting/general lack of modesty :o. However, last year she started getting much more uncomfortable/painful during her cycles – to the point where I had to bute her for a few days to keep her comfortable. I had a full ultrasound and bloodwork done in October and everything came back normal, thankfully. So, we left it that I’d try Regumate or depo in the spring.

Fast forward to spring and as I was researching Regumate, I came across the new IM option and decided to try it. I’m at a wonderful boarding barn but with the handling issues with the liquid oral (everyone at the barn who feeds is young & female), the once a month IM was so much more realistic.

None of the vets I use had personal experience with the IM altrenogest, so I am the official guinea pig in this particular area. It has now been almost 5 months of using it and I’ve been VERY, VERY pleased. To the point I wish I’d done it years ago.

My mare had her first shot on the evening of 5/8. BET indicates it takes ~4 days to be fully effective. I took her to a schooling show on 5/10. One thing that was an unexpected difference is she didn’t whinny once all day. There were 2 geldings we trailered with and they were calling pretty consistently throughout the day and it was so nice to finish the experience with my full hearing abilities :slight_smile: !

Over the next few days, something interesting happened: she became noticeably looser in her back. To the point I put her on the lunge to watch her move because it felt so different. Over 3-4 days, she went from the ‘normal’, fairly supple way she has always moved, to a very loose (almost too much so) way of going in her back and hind end. Then, finally, to a new, more supple and balanced/elastic/athletic yet strong movement. This has been maintained for the ~5 months since she first started on it.

This physical change + the lack of pain/discomfort when she cycles + the general behavioral improvements have all led to major progress in her rideability and trainability. We’ve had a breakthrough season this year and I attribute at least 50% of our improvements to the Regumate. This thread is not a ‘brag’ but for purposes of providing some ‘measurement’ of our improvement, we have gone from consistent low-mid 40’s for our dressage rides at recognized events to consistent low to mid 30s.

She’s built pretty downhill and I can get her so much more off then forehand and carrying behind vs. rushing than I’ve been able to before. She’s also more relaxed both physically (not holding in her back and neck) and mentally (settled immediately when we get to a show or new venue - not as ‘tuned in’ to what EVERYONE else is doing) and for the first time, I consistently “get the same horse” I ride at home when we go somewhere. This has been a HUGE and very welcome change.

We’re moving up from Novice to Training in a few weeks with her jumping being much more balanced, pretty effortless feeling, up to schooling 3’6", and scopier than ever before.

In a nutshell, I think the Regumate has enabled us to progress better than we’ve been able to before because it’s helped eliminate some underlying physical and mental issues that were rooted in her hormone levels.

Our relationship has always been very good and she’s always been enjoyable to ride. But I can honestly say I’ve never had so much fun with her as the past 5 months. 99+% of our work is positive, there are minimal resistances, even when we’re working on something new or harder and it’s a such pleasure to know that day in and day out, we’re going to have a pretty great ride and make steady progress.

There’s no one solution for everyone and I know there are very valid arguments against using Regumate. But, for us, it has been a really positive change and I wanted to pass along this info in the hopes it gives others another option to consider.

Happy riding-
Jocelyn

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THANKS SO MUCH for posting this. I have a Haflinger mare that is a dream girl for about 20 days of the month and a BEOTCH the other 10. I have even been considering ovarectomie(sp?) but the $$ is out of my budget. I have put her on an herbal, will wait to see if I get any results next month. If the spring is bad again I will try the IM!!

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Fingers crossed for you! I had tried a combo of raspberry leaf & chaste tree berry with minor improvements last season but not enough to prevent the pain/discomfort.

We have used the 12 day IM from BET for quite a bit with a lot of luck. I am located in KY so most of the vets are familiar with BET labs. The 30 day Pogestin Altrenogest is not recommended for preventing ovulation after the I’ve heard but we have successfully used the 12 day dosage on mares that needed Regumate after breeding.

I also great success with this product. I give my daughter’s mare the shot once a month and it is something that I can do myself. After October I will take her off and then put her back on next spring.

We just gave a mare in the barn Regumate IM this past week. Like yours, she has had some painful heat episodes and tends to get a bit colicky. She was on depo and came into heat a couple of times anyway, so my vet recommended trying Regumate. I’m eager to see how it works for her!

Just curious where PonyPenny & Equino are located? Were your vets familiar with it?

Interesting on the depo, Equino - that is one reason I didn’t try it - my vat said your experience was pretty common.

I’m debating whether to stop after her Oct. shot…I think I’ll try and if I see any reverting back to prior behavior or discomfort, I’ll keep her on even for winter. Though the break would be nice on the bank account :wink:

I am in Westchester County, NY. I think my vet just started dispensing it herself, not sure about the practice she works out of.

I have 3 mares here and they tend to cycle together. One mare was on depo a year, off for the winter, and started back in March after her 1st cycle. She was fine for 3 months, then came into heat. Retried, and she came into heat again, so I called it quits (my personal horse) because she was not marish to begin with so I felt I was wasting money.

A 2nd mare also came into heat with her, but when we restarted the process over for her, we did it a bit longer (one shot a week for 3 weeks, every other weeks for 2 doses, then once a month) she stayed out of heat and now she is on Regumate. She is the one who would get uncomfortable/colicky when in heat, so hopefully this works!

I am located in Southern California. My vet is Dr. Nancy Collins of Collins Equine Veterinary Services. She is located in Alta Loma Ca. You can google to get her phone number.

Has anyone switched from the oral Regumate to the IM? I’m interested in hearing how one compares to the other in results. I’d love to not have to handle the stuff daily.

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Wow, when my bottle runs out I want to switch to the monthly shot!! Anything to avoid the daily regumate hassle.

So random question that may need its own thread - but does everyone take their mares off of regumate for the winter? Or do you keep them on year round?

I bought my mare in July, and she had been on regumate since the spring. Her former owner was not just an honest horse seller, but also a saint - my mare came with her own bottle of regumate. I thought that since it was almost Ocober I could wean her off. I tried a week on a lesser dose of regumate, and then a day with none. She came into heat the next day. Besides being sore in her back, she was also a royal pain in the a$$! I could barely get her tacked up she was so upset to leave her next door neighbor, who is apparently dead sexy. So I put her back on the juice that night. :eek:

I would really like to get her off for the winter - is it impossible to take a mare off without her coming into heat? Should I just take her off and plan on her being nucking futs in heat for a few days?

And for next spring when she goes back on, should I try the IM monthly regumate first or would you give depo a shot?

any more info on cost for the injectable? I think it just cost me 150 for one shot. I was not expecting it to be so pricey.:o

Well, I pay $20 for one dose of the 12 day. $150 might include barn call and… something else? I hope?

I started using it as part of a protocol for timing mares in, and it’s such a tight protocol that I can do the actual AI myself, no need for multiple ultrasounds.

I had asked for P&E and got the biorelease instead. My vet was so impressed that he wanted to try it on the track for mares instead of Regumate. I’ll ask him when I talk to him how he thinks it compares.

Did your mares have reactions at the injection sites? My friend tried the IM 30 day product and stopped using it due to the swelling it was causing in her mare.

Coming back to this thread to send the link to someone…

I have had no reactions at injection site. The 30-day is water-based; the 12-day is oil based. BET indicates there are very minimal reactions w/ 30-day, more with 12-day.

I am lucky my vet will call in Rx to BET & I pay BET directly so no mark-up. Cost difference is probably call charge + some markup?

I have not injected my mare since 10/1. Plan to start back up ~3/1. BET recommends a 3-4 month break each winter. She did not come into heat.

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I know this is a very old thread but bumping rather than re-creating the topic. I am considering this monthly injection (I just heard about it) since my mare gets what I think they can “transitional heat” cycles as the fall starts and it’s bad - she seems to get “stuck” in heat for weeks and gets to the point where she’s clearly in pain, will almost look lame at times, is very tense, can’t walk by another horse without peeing, is desperately distracted/obsessed with her crush gelding (practically will drag you to his stall if you let her) and almost any other horse at times, etc. She’s been in heat for almost a week now straight and I think it’s happening again.

Does anyone have any anecdotal information on performance of a mare on this type of regumate? Other than not wanting the liability of daily dosages for barn staff, I’ve worried about some talk that regumate will “deaden” a mare/ make them sluggish. This mare is already a kick ride at times (though it’s clear I can’t have her cycle like this). Do you need to keep them on regumate all year, or is part of the year enough? I only have the heat problems when she has this transitional fall phase.

Her current situation sounds so uncomfortable for her (physically and mentally) that I would not hesitate to try regumate. If you decide it wasn’t working, you just stop. It can’t hurt anything except your wallet in this case (well, provided you wear gloves while handling it), and it could help TREMENDOUSLY.

I would not worry about it “deadening” your mare. If anything, she might perk up once she feels a little better. I echo the original poster’s experience that I felt my FEI horse (I think 3rd/4th level at the time) become MUCH looser in her neck and back within 3 days of starting it. So maybe a bit “quieter”, but still had plenty of pizazz. If your horse does get too quiet, just stop. Easy peasy.

Mine is so much happier on it, I keep her on all year. You can always stop, see how it goes, then start up again if you think she’s happier on it.

It’s the kind of thing that’s so easy to start and stop, and the effects can be so dramatic, I wouldn’t hesitate to start and see how she feels. (I wouldn’t start and stop willy nilly, because, say, you don’t feel like refilling it until next week, for instance - these are your horse’s hormones your playing with, but some controlled experimentation to find what works for you/her should be fine.)

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My mare is on it (though it’s much more $$$ than in the OP), and she is a different horse. She was quite reactive and spooky and distracted before putting her on it and is now much more rideable and focused and quiet. I keep her on it year round.

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I’ve had a fantastic experience with the Synovex implants for my mare. A completely different horse. Literally, a miracle - I was at my wits’ end. This was the recommendation of my vet and I am getting ready for the 2nd dose of these (they last 6 months).

http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/Documents/Learnmares27-hormther-synovex-apr09.pdf

This article is old - did they increase the dosage recommended for mares? Or have they since made one specifically for mares?

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