And again…she’s surprised that it has come to this? Like she wasn’t absolutely aware that that was how he was? C’mon…pull the other one…
Regarding this statement
I find it quite cruel that after all the money invested, and we know it’s a big chunk, this person has to leave his title behind … I understand the scheme, but damn…he earned it.
He shouldn’t have to choose between the two… why can’t he pay his annual license fee and work with Linda too?! It’s very petty.
And I could bet that many would love to be suckers in both camps anyway.
Let’s just hope he won’t have to pay to go up the levels as a new Happy Horse shit master… Like, she should give him « a diploma/title » if he follows her…
From a coldly business standpoint, if Linda and Pat are likely to continue with business models that are similar to what they had before, then they are each other’s principal competitors. And they are certainly competitors for the existing fan base.
They are both in a tough and awkward spot. “Parelli” may have started as Pat’s last name, but it is now a brand that they both built. I do wonder how the ownership of the brand is structured, legally. They seem to have a lot of copyrights and/or various brand protections of the things they have released to their audience. Guessing those are owned by the Parelli business … the question is, how is the ownership of that business structured. Or not structured. Otherwise, regardless of the divorce, Linda would still be a part-owner.
Since Linda chose a new name & brand, it seems she has left the name “Parelli” behind. But any time a participant in a business leaves to start a very similar new business, it is common that the old business will sue the new one. The new business really has to be easily distinguishable as a different product and not a direct competitor of the old one, for some number of years, anyway.
This sounds like an entrepreneurial tech business that loses some of the early founders who break off to start another business of their own. It can be a drama, unless they can show that they did not re-create any product that was already part of the old business.
(If anyone decides to go into business with your spouse, take heed that you still need a formal written legal business arrangement that defines ownership of the business. And how either owner can leave the business without losing what they put into it. )
There’s a non compete agreement ? The divorce settlement will depend largely on the State in which it is filed. Mrs Parelli may have walked out with nothing, but I doubt that will be the case when the divorce is final. She probably knows where all the bodies are buried and the bank accounts hidden.
ref; https://www.crystal-reflections.com/sites/j_bar_k/main.html
Florida; https://www.floridabar.org/public/consumer/pamphlet010/#Untitled%20Section_5
DIVISION OF ASSETS AND DEBTS
One of the most difficult and complex areas of dissolution of marriage is the division of assets and debts. Assets may include cars, houses, retirement benefits (pensions and 401(k) plans), business interests, cash, stocks, bonds, bank accounts, personal property and other things of value. Debts (also called “liabilities”) include mortgages, car loans, credit card accounts and other amounts of money you and your spouse owe to third parties.
There are two types of assets and debts in Florida – nonmarital and marital. Generally, any asset or debt acquired during the marriage is considered marital and subject to distribution. The parties also may have assets or debts that are considered nonmarital and should be awarded to only one party.
Florida statutes and case law provide for an “equitable distribution” of marital assets and debts. Although the court must begin with the presumption that all marital assets and debts are to be divided equally (50 percent each) between the parties, the court may distribute the marital estate fairly or equitably (not necessarily equally) between the parties, regardless of how title is held. A court decides equitable distribution before considering alimony. Equitable distribution is based on a long list of factors the court is required to consider.
Factors to be considered by the court include the contribution of each spouse to the marriage; the duration of the marriage; and the economic circumstances of each spouse. The court should approve your agreement if the court finds it to be reasonable. If you and your spouse cannot agree, the court will divide the assets and debts during trial.
The interesting comparison is to an entrepreneurial business that does not involve married partners. If these were individuals who are connected almost exclusively by their business interests, and one leaves their jointly-built company to start a very similar company that is in direct competition with the original, the situation comes across rather differently.
There is less “poor Linda” if there were no personal relationship involved. There would be a lot more “you pirated the concept and the customer base, so what did you expect?” instead.
Although if the partner who left were to claim that they were being cheated of their share of the profits, they might have more sympathy. But there would have been better thought out legal avenues to pursue whatever amount they thought they were owed than starting a competing business. Although married partners probably didn’t sign NDA’s and non-compete agreements.
From a distance, this will be interesting to see play out.
Case is online for reading.
Interesting; Case is being brought to Court by a Corporation, of which Linda Parelli is a 50% shareholder. A 50% shareholder can force liquidation.
And if they did do this up properly, there may well be some non-competes and NDA’s in the mix. Maybe even involving some of their most advanced students and certified trainers.
Beer & pretzels with feet on the desk to watch how this plays out …
Reading through that case, I wonder why her current business partner has two names - Andrew Woods and Paul Flockhart.
I think he has his legal name (Paul) and “public name” or nom de plume, that he publishes under.
None of my social media accounts feature my real name because of my job. If I could, I would work under a false name too. Maybe he’s had experience with fanatics?
So Parelli put some meme up about touching your horse with your heart, and someone commented on how Pat is “such a true gentleman, such integrity”.
I commented that he had some much integrity that he stepped out on two wives…
And got blocked by Parelli!! I can no longer comment or like their posts (but I can share them ).
Is that a goal achieved or what!
Interesting… out of curiosity, I had a look today to see if Parelli were still selling “Linda-centric” dvds. They are, but the descriptions have all been changed to “… with Parelli”, not “with Linda Parelli”. In one where she is one of four students, three students are named and she is listed as “and others”. Other DVDs featuring guest instructors have not had the instructors’ names scrubbed.
Oh this is interesting!!
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First, I want to be clear, Linda does not know I am organizing this fund drive. She is much too proud and beautiful a person but sometimes friends need to intervene in a situation where abuse is occurring. Pat and his cohorts at PNH, Ryan and Tina are trying to starve her out of a 25-year marriage with nothing.
On April 6th, the Florida Parelli ranch sold, Linda’s share was just over $60,000 of which over $40,000 went straight to her mounting legal bills while Pat continues to pay his legal bills from the PNH piggy bank.
Meanwhile Linda found out yesterday that PNH have not paid her credit card bills in several months and it’s now maxed out. (They had been paying it with Linda’s own funds, drawing against a loan Linda gave the company) That is the only card she has and the one she uses for food and personal items!
Sadly, as many women do, she trusted her husband to provide for her, and has little to no funds of her own. Pat is paying her no spousal support and the company have not paid her a paycheck in over four years.
Linda has to move out of the ranch at the end of the month and Pat has provided her no money to find another place. In fact, he told her he had no money, and that’s she should go stay with one of her friends for free.
Over the last few months Pat claimed in one email to Linda that she shared with me, that the PNH company was worth just $25,000, or maybe $100,000 Max. While at the same time he is suing her in Federal court claiming she is “destroying the business” and is trying to stop her earning a living from Happy Horse.
How do you destroy a business that’s only worth $25,000?
While Happy Horse has been a success, the start-up costs of a new business are such that there is not yet much profit and what there is, has been going to fight the Federal lawsuit for the right to stay in business. PNH claim they own the name Happy Horse although they only filed a trade mark application three months after Happy Horse Happy Life launched, and then only out of spite and to gain a bargaining chip in the divorce.
I cannot stand to watch this abuse any longer as they try to starve Linda into submission. That’s why I am asking you to support Linda in her legal defense, so she has the funds to fight this terrible injustice.
Friends of Linda Parelli
Sad. But also eye opening in that here’s one of the most well monetized training programs going with a cult like following. And the money involved when it falls apart is peanuts. Even the land is not worth much (or could have been mortgaged I suppose). $60 000 as a share of selling a ranch? Where I live a basic suburban bungalow is $1.2 million.
I dont doubt hubby is hiding assets and crying he’s poor. But the assets seem to very modest.
And he proved his trustworthiness how? When he left his first wife? With no money? When he lied to Wife #1? Oh yeah he’s the very picture of trustworthy. not.
This is the exact same mentality of the Klassikal freaks who will be doing the Intro/Training olympics forever and think that competitive dressage is abusive and pulling on the reins even once in their lives is a sin.
If I googled it correctly, that ranch is listed for $1.2 million. Is it located in Reddick FL?
So I had to Google it myself, and yes it is Reddick, Marion County.
But this little gem came up on my Google search. It is in relation to attending a course at the Florida centre…
I hereby expressly grant to said Parelli Natural Horse•Man•Ship, Coco/Firefly Fotos and all licensees, successors, legal representatives and assigns,the absolute and irrevocable right and permission to use my name and to use, reproduce, edit, exhibit, project, display, copyright, publish and/or resell photographic pictures and/or moving pictures and/or videotaped images of
me with or without my voice, or in which I may be included in whole or in part, and any of my possessions, including real and personal property, which photographic and/or moving pictures, videotaped images and/or possessions are photographed, taped, videotaped, and/or recorded on (month/date/year)_________________ and thereafter, and circulate the same in all
forms and media (including, but not limited to: videotapes, audio tapes, compact discs, computer files, film, slides and photographs) for art, advertising, trade, competition of every description and/or any other lawful purpose whatsoever. I also consent to the use of any printed matter in conjunction therewith.
Like, geez. I just wanna learn to lunge my horse, not have my identity stolen!
Interestingly enough, the website still promotes courses being available in Florida - at that address - in October 2021. No mention of the ranch being sold - the website still spruicks the beauty of the Florida ranch as a place to go in Winter.
Pat must be so broke, he’s selling a horse for $75,000.
The for-sale advert for said golden beast features lots of pictures… of her eyeballs. Two 90% of her body shots, including a lunging picture.
That’s it. Drop a cool $75k on a horse with unknown conformation and proof of under-saddle behaviour and ability.
The Lion, The Witch, and the Audacity of this …
Or Pat has done what many before him have done and he’s shifted money and assets around to hide them from Linda and her lawyers. I sincerely doubt the Parellis are squabbling over 10s of thousands of dollars. They may not be millionaires but any idiot can figure out to put someone else’s name on the farm, the car, the saddles, the horses, the trucks, the horse trailers, the whatevers, and claim you’ve got a motor home and a half acre to your name and your evil spouse is trying to rob you. I sincerely doubt someone whose entire life centers around creating and cashing in on fads hasn’t figured out how to make and move $$$$. I mean, the carrot stick sales alone would probably pay off my student loans.
Just today I was enjoying watching a child support court lawyer going after a parent for quitting a well-paying job to take a lower paying one for the purpose of robbing her partner and her child of child support. (Yes, it was a court tv show. Yes, I hope that judge’s word is law and that parent has to pay what’s owed. What an @$$.)