Paul’s farm in Wellington abuts the showgrounds. Unless his cupola has a viewing room, he probably can’t see the schooling/show rings on that side of the showgrounds well enough to train via two way radio. He does go on the horse show grounds on Tuesdays to school.
Most people with farms at WEF that close to the showgrounds train and warm up at the farm, then hack to the show and jump a couple jumps and go in the ring.
Is David Olynick working for Paul?
Hope not since in October 2008 he was fined and censured for working for him.
The Committee Members present received and accepted a plea agreement tendered pursuant to Chapter 6,
GR617 wherein DAVID OLIYNYK, of Plainville, MA, violated Chapter 7, GR702.1a, GR702.1d,
GR702.1i; GR704.1, GR704.4a and GR704.4c of this Federation, in that on occasions between January
2006 and July 2007, during his employment at Acres Wild Farm, DAVID OLIYNYK participated, trained
and/or coached at Licensed Competitions on a suspended person’s behalf and/or for their benefit, credit,
profit, reputation and/or satisfaction, when the person was suspended and not in good standing under the
Federation’s rules. For this violation it was determined that DAVID OLIYNYK be censured pursuant to
Chapter 7, GR703.1a and fined $1,000 pursuant to Chapter 7, GR703.1j.
Why is McLain allowed ride for his father’s farm?
People do like to ride with him. He offers clinics in my area and they fill every time. I have never/will never go to one, but people who do say they get alot out of it. I had actually considered it just because I was hearing alot of good things…but then I thought I could probably find more morally acceptable ways to improve my riding.
Is he? McLain rides for McLain and owners. I don’t believe he works for his father.
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Is he? McLain rides for McLain and owners. I don’t believe he works for his father.[/QUOTE]
http://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/olympic-gold-brings-back-brutal-memories/
“McKeever said that Barney Ward was home preparing horses for his son’s next event after the Olympics, and that he attended the Olympics in Athens in 2004, where he saw McLain win his first gold medal.”
from COTH article
http://www.chronofhorse.com/article/show-jumping-horseman-year-mclain-ward
“I can’t influence peoples’ opinions,” McLain added. “They’re going to say what they say. If they have dislike for me or my father or how we do things, I’m very sorry about that, but I can’t control that. I do my job very well, and I think we run our business well, and our horses are treated as well as they can be.”
[QUOTE=Arco;4782058]
from COTH article
http://www.chronofhorse.com/article/show-jumping-horseman-year-mclain-ward
“I can’t influence peoples’ opinions,” McLain added. “They’re going to say what they say. If they have dislike for me or my father or how we do things, I’m very sorry about that, but I can’t control that. I do my job very well, and I think we run our business well, and our horses are treated as well as they can be.”[/QUOTE]
Ummm…you can’t influence people’s opinion? Poor choice of words. Quite frankly, I’d have a lot more respect for McLain if he distanced himself from his father’s training operation. To each his own, I guess.
I posted a spinoff in Off Course for the BW/MW question.
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“McKeever said that Barney Ward was home preparing horses for his son’s next event after the Olympics, and that he attended the Olympics in Athens in 2004, where he saw McLain win his first gold medal.”[/QUOTE]
That doesn’t say McLain is riding his father’s horses in competition. It says BARNEY is at home, riding MCLAIN’S horses. Which he is allowed to do. And he is allowed to go the Athens. The USEF has suspended him, not the IOC.
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Hope not since in October 2008 he was fined and censured for working for him.
The Committee Members present received and accepted a plea agreement tendered pursuant to Chapter 6,
GR617 wherein DAVID OLIYNYK, of Plainville, MA, violated Chapter 7, GR702.1a, GR702.1d,
GR702.1i; GR704.1, GR704.4a and GR704.4c of this Federation, in that on occasions between January
2006 and July 2007, during his employment at Acres Wild Farm, DAVID OLIYNYK participated, trained
and/or coached at Licensed Competitions on a suspended person’s behalf and/or for their benefit, credit,
profit, reputation and/or satisfaction, when the person was suspended and not in good standing under the
Federation’s rules. For this violation it was determined that DAVID OLIYNYK be censured pursuant to
Chapter 7, GR703.1a and fined $1,000 pursuant to Chapter 7, GR703.1j.[/QUOTE]
From what I gather roles have reversed. PV now works for David. It is no longer “Acres Wild Farms” but “Olynick Show Stables” David handles the vast majority of training.
WOW, now THAT is a creative way of getting around the rules. :no: Just switch it up so that the suspended person is “working” for the other person, “legally”. I bet they think they are SO smart.
Well, it sure solves their problems, and they get to flip off USEF while they do it. And clients won’t suspect until they’re committed that they’ve got a horse killer hiding back at the barn.
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WOW, now THAT is a creative way of getting around the rules. :no: Just switch it up so that the suspended person is “working” for the other person, “legally”. I bet they think they are SO smart.[/QUOTE]
That’s how Barney Ward stayed in the game all these years. They just tell everyone that someone else is running the business. Seems to work well for a lot of others in the H/J world such as Jon Soresi who dropped his business and went to work under someone else’s roof.
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That’s how Barney Ward stayed in the game all these years. They just tell everyone that someone else is running the business. Seems to work well for a lot of others in the H/J world such as Jon Soresi who dropped his business and went to work under someone else’s roof.[/QUOTE]
Jon Soresi is under his own roof. I saw his banner at Littlewood.
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Jon Soresi is under his own roof. I saw his banner at Littlewood.[/QUOTE]
He is not under his own roof as he has no facilities of his own. When he quietly relocated to FL after the USEF banned him, he worked at a VERY private barn in Ocala where his services were retained, though he seems to be hanging around Palm Beach now plying his trade as a horseman. He lives in an apartment down the road from the PB Country Club. He no longer resides in NJ or NY and has been removed from their offender registries but he hasn’t updated his registry information with the FL DOC though he seems to have been there for almost two years. They still have him listed as a NJ resident at one of the old facilities he rented despite the fact he hasn’t been there for a very long time.
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He is not under his own roof as he has no facilities of his own. When he quietly relocated to FL after the USEF banned him, he worked at a VERY private barn in Ocala where his services were retained, though he seems to be hanging around Palm Beach now plying his trade as a horseman. He lives in an apartment down the road from the PB Country Club. He no longer resides in NJ or NY and has been removed from their offender registries but he hasn’t updated his registry information with the FL DOC though he seems to have been there for almost two years. They still have him listed as a NJ resident at one of the old facilities he rented despite the fact he hasn’t been there for a very long time.[/QUOTE]
If you know where he is then all you need to do is call or email the sheriff’s dept in that area (Ocala is the Marion County, FL Sheriff’s office, not sure if where he is in PB would be Palm Beach or Broward Co, but you can also contact FDLE) and let them know. He will be picked up and will go back to jail, no if’s ands or buts.
He will be charged with absconding from the state of NJ and with failure to register in FL, so he will go away for a good while. We do it all the time, and that is taken very seriously.
He should be reported.
One of the things that bothers me a lot (not the most, that would be the crimes these folks have been convicted of/plead guilty to committing) is the “business as usual” attitude once they moved on.
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He is not under his own roof as he has no facilities of his own. When he quietly relocated to FL after the USEF banned him, he worked at a VERY private barn in Ocala where his services were retained, though he seems to be hanging around Palm Beach now plying his trade as a horseman. .[/QUOTE]
Well, then we’ll say he’s under his own banner- on the horse show grounds. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=LexInVA;4784580]
He is not under his own roof as he has no facilities of his own. When he quietly relocated to FL after the USEF banned him, he worked at a VERY private barn in Ocala where his services were retained, though he seems to be hanging around Palm Beach now plying his trade as a horseman. He lives in an apartment down the road from the PB Country Club. He no longer resides in NJ or NY and has been removed from their offender registries but he hasn’t updated his registry information with the FL DOC though he seems to have been there for almost two years. They still have him listed as a NJ resident at one of the old facilities he rented despite the fact he hasn’t been there for a very long time.[/QUOTE]
I don’t want to cause trouble, but before anyone does anything rash with regards to Jonathan Soresi (reports him etc. as discussed in posts subsequent to the above), some fact checking is in order.
He is, in fact, registered in Florida and the photograph that accompanies his listing is dated 2/11/2010. So he has updated his registration.
He does live in New Jersey for part of the year where he trains under his own name (although I do not think he owns the barn his stable is located at). The address listed on his registry simply states the name of the town he is in. He was also at a different stable in the same town—perhaps this is where your confusion comes in (“They still have him listed as a NJ resident at one of the old facilities he rented despite the fact he hasn’t been there for a very long time”), as while he is still in the same town, he is at a different facility but the generic address (town name only) still applies.
Just a little more information.
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