Would members of the hunt be upset if they discovered someone that was never a member of a hunt and earned the colors (including the boots) was wearing any of the colors or boots when participating in another discipline such as Eventing or Hunter/Jumpers?
Yes
Colors or buttons very much so. Boots, at least for me, to a lesser degree. Same with letting the ribbon down on your cap.
Very much so–please don’t do it!!
I would be offended.
I read your comments on the eventing forum, and disagree with your assertions, but that’s all I’m going to say.
In the case of wearing colors/tops, I find it offensive that a person that has not been entitled to wear them is wearing them because it shows ignorance. Just because in one part of our sport it means something, doesn’t mean those traditions/rules should go ignored in another part of our sport. It’s just like if you showed up at a show wearing a USET jacket, when not entitled to wear one. You need to earn it.
JMHO, I have more remarks, but I’ll stop for now.
Yes, it’s offensive.
Yes, anyone who knows what it means would think it was inapropriate for someone not in a hunt to wear the colors & boots, but obviously if you don’t care what anyone thinks, then wear whatever you want as long as it’s “legal”. But I also read the eventing thread and it sounds to me like you are coming here just to pick a fight with foxhunters ?
It is a question on what people in the fox hunting world think. Posted here because not all fox hunt people wander over to the Event board all the time.
Specifically, it is about the boots.
Wearing hunt livery and wearing tan top boots are entirely different. In a great many hunts, but perhaps not all, it is entirely correct for a gentleman who has not been awarded colours to wear tan tops and white breeches with a black frock coat and top hat.
Colours are earned. Boots are just bought at a shop.
Of course, almost nobody wears a top hat, so many people do not know that.
Ajierene, your boot fetish is showing…
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Getting cold feet about painting the tops of your boots brown already?
In the same discussion on the eventing forum, you reiterated ad nauseam how little you care about what others think…
Yet here you are, already asking on the hunting forum if hunt members would be upset if a person wore hunt colours and boots unearned…
So - do you care what people think, or don’t you, or is it that you simply enjoy running around the paddock nipping other ponies on the bum, just to stir things up a bit?
Go buy some brown paint and get colouring those boots.
you mean the answers JSwan and Jaeger gave you over in the eventing forum weren’t clear enough? Good grief!:rolleyes:
As was explained by others in the eventing forum I’d consider it deceitful and dishonest. Kinda like falsely embellishing your equestrian resume.
People work far too many long, hard hours for their colors to take it lightly like some sort of hokey fashion statement.
Thank you LS.
People who don’t care about others opinions or feelings are sure doing a lot of asking about what they think.
I agree: it’s presenting yourself as something you’re not. To foxhunters, it’s not just a fashion statement, and I’d like to think our brethren in other disciplines would honor that, just as we would never wear equestrian team colors if we weren’t members of the equestrian team.
Oh, maybe when I am bored and have some popcorn handy I’ll go check out the eventing thread.
Meanwhile, as has been noted, the boots are not part of a hunt’s colors, they are generic. Black boots with brown tops are worn with white breeches, and only white breeches, unless a hunt such as Old Dominion decrees another color of breeches. Where do they get their brick breeches these days by the way? As has been noted, there is correct attire with white breeches for hunting for gentlemen who do not have their colors.
If you are a female, you look pretty stupid wearing boots with brown tops anywhere but as a whipper-in or Master out in the hunt field. As in, when I was a whipper-in, I wore my black coat with colors to show, unless it was specifically a class for staff.
As to wearing a hunt’s colors on your collar and/or buttons when you are not a member of the hunt awarded colors, yes, if you do that, you are an abomination. One wonders why anyone would want to do that sort of thing, it would only bring them disgrace.
Golly. There’s a neighbor of ours that wears her real (not “equestrian look”) top boots to cocktail parties all the time. She doesn’t look silly. No, not at all…
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Haha, this is pretty much how I got my brown Dehner field boots. Got them off eBay. The seller had purchased them for “fashion,” but couldn’t figure out how to get them on :winkgrin: Her loss, my gain!
Just an observation and question
I just waded through all the posts about this topic on the eventing board. In the 1970’s and 1980’s (when I became “aware” of equestrian activities as a child), many of the men who represented the our country in international events with the USET, wore top boots with their red coats.
Some of them were probably members of a hunt (Bruce Davidson, for example) but many other men wore top boots - Michael Matz, and Mike Plumb come to mind. Were they members of a hunt, or was it just the “fashion” of the times to wear top boots when awarded their red coat?
In the early days, Bruce Davidson wore his hunt coat in eventing. I remember seeing pictures of him, right after his first world championship, with hunt colors on his red coat.
Was it just a “fashion” thing? You rarely see our international rides (male) wearing top boots, let alone hunt colors anymore.
I’m not trying to pick a fight. Just something I remember of the days gone by.
It seems like there are more hunters on this side of the forum saying hunt top boots are not part of the colors. Is there not a court of final appeal to take this to?
Very chic, I’m sure. The context in which we were discussing the issue was riding a horse, in the show ring or eventing.
MBarrett, back in the day, it’s probably true that more competitors hunted, and horse owners hunted, and the show ring attire was more closely linked to hunting- hence, when wearing white breeches (which one wears with a red coat), they wore black boots with brown tops.
I think Aijerene’s question is a bit incomplete. I’d like to add: to what degree are you offended? Offended enough to confront and chastise? Offended enough to comment to a friend? Offended, but keep your thoughts to yourself?
