Quidam stallions that produce exceptional jumpers

[Stoney447]

@JumperFyre;7142662

Oh gosh don’t jump on me for not posting links. I don’t want to be the bad guy.

For the record I was not jumping on you for not posting links, I was pointing out that people with horses who have the phenotype that you are referring to may not be embarrassed about them just because you do not find them aesthetically pleasing…

ETA: I guess after looking at your thread on Big Star I am curious to what end are you posting? Do you have certain mares that you are interested in breeding to these stallions where discussing the draw backs of certain traits and how to overcome them may be important or are you just trying to start discussion about phenotype versus athletic ability?

[JumperFyre]

[QUOTE=fordtraktor;7143966]
Reread the thread, no one on it was critical of Big Star but you. To the contrary.[/QUOTE]

Cover Girl also posted about Big Star saying “Big Star is a coursely built stallion, however I don’t think it matters how he is built because from what I believe he is not even available to us for breeding. Certainly his conformation works for him.” You also agreed he was coarsely built.

Now lets stay on topic, yeah?

[Cover_Girl]

Please don’t drag me into this, I was not being critical of Big Star at all. I think he’s amazing. Just stating he is coarsely built. End of…

[beowulf]

wow! looking at all the progeny by quidam (OP’s neck preference had me curious to see if i could see what she was talking of)… i will be happy to take ANY quidam baby off of you people’s hands… surely the neck issue is so burdensome you would agree i would make an excellent candidate for a rehoming!

ETA: i meant to type quinar, my bad. but i will take quidam babies too!!

[JumperFyre]

[QUOTE=beowulf;7144422]
wow! looking at all the progeny by quidam (OP’s neck preference had me curious to see if i could see what she was talking of)… i will be happy to take ANY quidam baby off of you people’s hands… surely the neck issue is so burdensome you would agree i would make an excellent candidate for a rehoming![/QUOTE]

I was talking about Quinar babies, not specifically Quidam babies.

[beowulf]

that is a misspell on my end, i meant quinar.

[Bayhawk]

You have got to be kidding me ! This thread about Quinar is exactly why I don’t post here anymore and seldom even read this BS. Quinar throws near perfect neck and topline conformation on his babies given a half way decent mare. The poster would realize this if they got off the damn photo sites and ACTUALLY saw some in person.

No wonder most of the knowledgeable folks are gone from here. Of course this doesn’t apply to all , but I think they should re-name this BB to… Chronicle of the Num-Nuts !

[JumperFyre]

Oh pues Bayhawk take your venting elsewhere especially if you don’t have any experience breeding to Quidam sons. I don’t know who you are or what you’ve bred, but unless you have knowledgable information for my original topic post, just stay off this thread. Don’t need drama or negative comments.

[belgianWBLuver]

[QUOTE=Bayhawk;7144563]
You have got to be kidding me ! This thread about Quinar is exactly why I don’t post here anymore and seldom even read this BS. Quinar throws near perfect neck and topline conformation on his babies given a half way decent mare. The poster would realize this if they got off the damn photo sites and ACTUALLY saw some in person.

No wonder most of the knowledgeable folks are gone from here. Of course this doesn’t apply to all , but I think they should re-name this BB to… Chronicle of the Num-Nuts ![/QUOTE]

OMG Bayhawk - you owe me a new keyboard :lol::lol::lol:

[beowulf]

Bayhawk I can appreciate your passion for such an extraordinary stallion, but there is a lid for every pot and while we may not agree with OPS exquisite taste in necks we should still be respectful!

[Bayhawk]

[QUOTE=beowulf;7144662]
Bayhawk I can appreciate your passion for such an extraordinary stallion, but there is a lid for every pot and while we may not agree with OPS exquisite taste in necks we should still be respectful![/QUOTE]

“respectful” ? I was being respectful. You would cower if I typed what I really wanted to say.

[Bayhawk]

[QUOTE=JumperFyre;7144598]
Oh pues Bayhawk take your venting elsewhere especially if you don’t have any experience breeding to Quidam sons. I don’t know who you are or what you’ve bred, but unless you have knowledgable information for my original topic post, just stay off this thread. Don’t need drama or negative comments.[/QUOTE]

I have bred to Quidam sons and I have personally seen about 300 Quinar children. You have absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about per your neck assessment.

[JumperFyre]

We are all entitled to our opinion. Just stay on topic and stop being so negative.

[skydy]

[QUOTE=JumperFyre;7145044]
We are all entitled to our opinion. Just stay on topic and stop being so negative.[/QUOTE]

Um, your post (#28) pretty much made it clear that you don’t think Bayhawk is entitled to an opinion… Jeeze why so much nasty here?

I don’t see the funky necks that you mention… I wish you could give a photo example of one of the necks you find objectionable . Then we could see if there is a conformational flaw that bothers you or if you just have funny taste in necks.

[supershorty628]

I’ve seen many Quinar babies and they’re lovely. I’m also partial to horses who go back to Cor de la Bryere (obviously not Quidam line, but another great one).

OP, is there a particular reason you want a Quidam stallion?

I think, and I may be mistaken, that the OP is fairly young and not super experienced. Granted, I’m going off of the username, which is the same as one that posted some interesting comments on some of my Youtube videos, but…

ETA: Not really on topic, but does anyone know if Jus de Pomme was bred much before his death? That was another fantastic horse.

[grayarabpony]

Jus de Pomme didn’t breed a whole lot before his death, but he has sired a number of show jumpers. O de Pomme sticks out in my mind the most. He went to the 2004 Athens Olympics and the WEG at Jerez. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L2o17Rq8Jig&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DL2o17Rq8Jig

http://www.thejoyofhorses.com/postcards_from_jerez/Show_Jumping.pdf

Peter Wylde rode Harry Potter at the top levels.

This page lists many offspring: http://www.horsetelex.com/horses/progeny/116

More info here: http://www.showjumpinginternational.com/the-vault/interviews-and-profiles/famous-show-jumping-stallions/jus-de-pomme.html According to this article he has a very nice stallion son (with a terrible name – Jumpy des Fontaines) who went to the Beijing Olympics.

His legacy is very much alive and well.

[JumperFyre]

[QUOTE=skydy;7145068]

I don’t see the funky necks that you mention… I wish you could give a photo example of one of the necks you find objectionable . Then we could see if there is a conformational flaw that bothers you or if you just have funny taste in necks. :D[/QUOTE]

Ok just because you people won’t let up on the Quinar comment, here are some links and there’s plenty more but I’m rather irritated that hardly anyone has given knowledgable comments about Quidam sons and instead is being critical of my preferences. Gees.

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=36442&UserID=13598

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=32991&UserID=11828

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=29864&UserID=12069

2 foals at bottom:
http://wildturkeyfarm.com/quinar.html

Last pic:
http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=21602&UserID=8423

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/SoldHorseDetail.asp?HorseID=32443&UserID=3566

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/SoldHorseDetail.asp?HorseID=29789&UserID=7208

[Bayhawk]

[QUOTE=JumperFyre;7145591]
Ok just because you people won’t let up on the Quinar comment, here are some links and there’s plenty more but I’m rather irritated that hardly anyone has given knowledgable comments about Quidam sons and instead is being critical of my preferences. Gees.

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=36442&UserID=13598

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=32991&UserID=11828

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=29864&UserID=12069

2 foals at bottom:
http://wildturkeyfarm.com/quinar.html

Last pic:
http://www.warmblood-sales.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=21602&UserID=8423

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/SoldHorseDetail.asp?HorseID=32443&UserID=3566

http://www.warmblood-sales.com/SoldHorseDetail.asp?HorseID=29789&UserID=7208[/QUOTE]

I’m glad you posted this as it only proves your inexperience. First of all , it goes back to what I stated earlier. You are latching on to an opinion based off of photos in motion. This is a bad mistake and you should see the horse in person before casting judgement. we all know that photos can make a bad horse look good and a good horse look bad.

secondly , there is nothing wrong with any of these horses necks other than lack of developement. The horse standing against the wooden background may have an issue but even then , I would want to see the horse in person before casting official judgement.

If you are looking for the perfect horse in a photo…I am absolutely sure someone will show you one and then you will wonder why you got hosed. Have a nice time critiquing photos but don’t tie that critique to an errant blanket statement about what a sire produces.

[sixpoundfarm]

Most of those horses are young and growing, and its not uncommon for weanlings, yearlings and 2yr olds to look rather ‘pieces and parts’ frequently. Try to remember also that every horse also has a mother, and she contributes to the build and conformation too.

[grayarabpony]

OP obviously you haven’t done much research on this stallion.