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ETA: Not really on topic, but does anyone know if Jus de Pomme was bred much before his death? That was another fantastic horse.[/QUOTE]
I believe the stallion Novalis at Dreamscape farm is a Jus de Pomme
while i would certainly never cower in the face of an irate coth poster (scary ladies on the internet just aren’t my thing), i still think rather than lambast OP for her perceived ignorance or personal opinion, you could simply say “i think his necks are lovely” and leave it at that?
and in regard to the links posted, OP, i agree that judging a horse in a still picture can be a little unfair - maybe you should post a link to a horse who has a neck set of your preference? i personally can see nothing wrong with the necks, save for some of the younger horses have underdeveloped necks and topline – both things which would be addressed once they are in work.
Well the point of the matter is, I asked for those who had experience breeding to Quidam stallions OTHER than Quinar because I’m not a huge fan of him, and instead of actually being useful, the majority of commentors either blasted me or went off topic. Sigh… Oh well… Guess I’m not getting any info from this board.
Quite Easy has some nice ones, too. I haven’t worked with any (that I know of), but I’ve seen some.
Not sure if Quick Star is related - I don’t think so? but I’m not certain - but I really, really like his babies and his babies’ babies. We have one in my barn right now whose grandsire is Quick Star and man, is he cool.
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Quite Easy has some nice ones, too. I haven’t worked with any (that I know of), but I’ve seen some.
Not sure if Quick Star is related - I don’t think so? but I’m not certain - but I really, really like his babies and his babies’ babies. We have one in my barn right now whose grandsire is Quick Star and man, is he cool.[/QUOTE]
No Quick Star is a Galoubet. 
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Well the point of the matter is, I asked for those who had experience breeding to Quidam stallions OTHER than Quinar because I’m not a huge fan of him, and instead of actually being useful, the majority of commentors either blasted me or went off topic. Sigh… Oh well… Guess I’m not getting any info from this board.[/QUOTE]
Poor baby.
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while i would certainly never cower in the face of an irate coth poster (scary ladies on the internet just aren’t my thing)…[/QUOTE]
I have thought of Reece as several things but lady doesn’t come to mind… :lol:
It sounds to me like the OP would be best served by buying a horse already on the ground. That way she could get the exact phenotype she wants and doesn’t have to play genetic roulette.
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It sounds to me like the OP would be best served by buying a horse already on the ground. That way she could get the exact phenotype she wants and doesn’t have to play genetic roulette.[/QUOTE]
This. I actually think this is a good idea for a lot of people! Others probably think the same of me, though
If you look at the mothers of both of the two Wild Turkey foals, they both have necks like their mother’s and I really don’t see anything wrong with either. They are both nice, sporty foals. The only reason I commented is that they don’t have the “look” of Quinar in regards to the neck … a stallion will never stamp his get 100% and the mare plays a huge part in what you will get. I agree with previous posters on the other horses … all are growing, immature horses.
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I’m glad you posted this as it only proves your inexperience. First of all , it goes back to what I stated earlier. You are latching on to an opinion based off of photos in motion. This is a bad mistake and you should see the horse in person before casting judgement. we all know that photos can make a bad horse look good and a good horse look bad.
secondly , there is nothing wrong with any of these horses necks other than lack of developement. The horse standing against the wooden background may have an issue but even then , I would want to see the horse in person before casting official judgement.
If you are looking for the perfect horse in a photo…I am absolutely sure someone will show you one and then you will wonder why you got hosed. Have a nice time critiquing photos but don’t tie that critique to an errant blanket statement about what a sire produces.[/QUOTE]
Not all the links have moving horse pictures and not all the links have foals or yearlings. Yes Quinar throws some nice necks and those horses get scored as premium as foals or in the mare books. The horses I posted links of with thinner necks, I don’t think any were premium, although I didn’t read through all of the ads.
There is no point to jump on someone for an opinion though. Doesn’t make their opinion change by being rude.
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Hey guys, what are some good QDR stallions available in the USA (frozen or fresh) who produce crazy good jumpers? I want to like Quinar but he throws a weird neck in every horse I’ve seen.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Perhaps you have forgotten your original post… If “every horse you’ve seen” by Quinar appears to you to have a “weird neck” then you need to take some time and learn more about conformation. :yes: It is a very interesting subject!
Posting your negative “feelings” when you really are not experienced enough to judge is silly. There are too many expert people on this BB to let that slide. You may be able to post that statement on a "feel good’ horsey site but here, not so much.
It really is a matter of wording your question properly which (sometimes) comes with age and should come with experience…
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Perhaps you have forgotten your origional post… If “every horse you’ve seen” by Quinar appears to you to have a “weird neck” then you need to take some time and learn more about conformation. :yes: It is a very interesting subject!
Posting your negative “feelings” when you really are not experienced enough to judge is silly. There are too many expert people on this BB to let that slide. You may be able to post that statement on a "feel good’ horsey site but here, not so much.
It really is a matter of wording your question properly which (sometimes) comes with age and should come with experience…[/QUOTE]
You pretty much nailed it on the head
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Perhaps you have forgotten your origional post… If “every horse you’ve seen” by Quinar appears to you to have a “weird neck” then you need to take some time and learn more about conformation. :yes: It is a very interesting subject!
Posting your negative “feelings” when you really are not experienced enough to judge is silly. There are too many expert people on this BB to let that slide. You may be able to post that statement on a "feel good’ horsey site but here, not so much.
It really is a matter of wording your question properly which (sometimes) comes with age and should come with experience…[/QUOTE]
I also clarified to say that I noticed it in about 75% of his offspring in my 2nd post.
Sure get after me for noticing things that certain stallions throw and forming an opinion, but no one seems to have experience breeding to any other top QDR stallions. So not sure how the experience plays a part there. Also Quantum is higher on the WBFSH sire rankings than Quinar or Quite Easy, yet no one has used him…??? Hmm…
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I also clarified to say that I noticed it in about 75% of his offspring in my 2nd post.[/QUOTE]
Oh, well that’s not what you wrote. So now it’s 75% :lol:
Again, take some time to study conformation and in the meantime if you do want serious advice from knowledgable breeders then you should think before you post and, before you accuse others of “being rude”.
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I also clarified to say that I noticed it in about 75% of his offspring in my 2nd post.
Sure get after me for noticing things that certain stallions throw and forming an opinion, but no one seems to have experience breeding to any other top QDR stallions. So not sure how the experience plays a part there. Also Quantum is higher on the WBFSH sire rankings than Quinar or Quite Easy, yet no one has used him…??? Hmm…[/QUOTE]
If you had any experience at all you would know that Quantum is a specialist stallion. He is ONLY for riders at the top of the sport. They are extremely difficult but can jump the moon if you can ride them. Quantum is NEVER a recomendation for the amateur market.
Again…quit looking at photos and trying to judge. It is almost impossible. Get your ass away from the computer and get your boots muddy looking at the children.
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I have thought of Reece as several things but lady doesn’t come to mind… :lol:[/QUOTE]
LOL !!!
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ETA: Not really on topic, but does anyone know if Jus de Pomme was bred much before his death? That was another fantastic horse.[/QUOTE]
Dreamscape has Novalis and Majestic Gaits in NH stands Navarone
Many stallions are difficult and/or produce difficult children. Doesn’t deter me unless they are dangerous which isn’t the case. Baloubet produces non Ammy friendly horses and he was the #1 show jumping sire for 2012.
Yes hello, I DON’T have experience with any Quidam sons…hence this thread!
Only things I can see are scores from stallion approvals, foal inspection and videos of offspring.
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Many stallions are difficult and/or produce difficult children. Doesn’t deter me unless they are dangerous which isn’t the case. Baloubet produces non Ammy friendly horses and he was the #1 show jumping sire for 2012.
Yes hello, I DON’T have experience with any Quidam sons…hence this thread!
Only things I can see are scores from stallion approvals, foal inspection and videos of offspring.[/QUOTE]
“Only thing I can see are scores for stallion approvals , foal inspections and videos” …And this is EXACTLY how not to breed horses !
