That boy is the spitting image of a saintly horse at the barn where I ride. I loved Waquoit as a races horse and think anything he sired should be considered for sport purposes.
I went out and looked at him and sat on him. His ankles are clean, they looked fine to me I thouroughly inspected his legs when I was there. I have owned horses for 30+ years so I am not a novice. I liked him, and I liked his attitude. He’s been off the track for awhile now. The owner’s father and brother are vets. He’s never had a soundness issue.
He ran like 5 races, and was slowwww, and too big for what they want.
My other two horses are a 17.1 hand Selle Francais and 17 hand purebred shire so yes he will fit in my trailer. I have a super tall sundowner.
I don’t appreciate the comment about his neck and hind end. I wend out and looked at him personally he does not have ewe neck at all, it’s set a little higher but I liked that for a jumper. He’s very uphill. I liked his hind end personally. I saw him move and he’s just fine. Big he is but a clumsy moose he isn’t.
His withers are quite high, that may give the neck a ewe apperance but I don’t think it’s ewe. I think he doesn’t have a topline yet, and has been hanging out. Anyway, for a jumper it will be fine. He’s not going to be a hunter though. He’s too big for that. He’s big boned, and built to carry his size. I think you are mistaking his bone size for a problem in the ankles. I personally really looked and didn’t see a problem. My WB mare looked this way when I bought her, she had a Giraffe neck,and completely turned around once she developed a topline.
I felt safe enough to give him a try.
I like the cross on Seattle Slew and saw Slewpy, who I REALLY liked as a sporthorse type! He was big, a bit coarse, but certainly looked like an athlete and was just a neat guy. So, that’s a thumbs up – best of luck – don’t you wish he was a she!
PennyG
Most of the half dozen Waquoits we’ve had have been huge, and VERY slow to develop. So it sounds like your boy might be that type. But they’ve also been quiet and kind.
I think a large horse of this size is going to be slow to develop, I also think that he hasn’t been trained to develop any topline at all…
I will see what happens, he’s very reasonable and he is sweet. I think he needs to muscle up develop more of a topline, and then we will see how that neck affects him.
I watched him move and I wasn’t concerned… he’s gorgeous jet black, has quite a presence.
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I am not a novice. I don’t appreciate the comment about his neck and hind end. [/QUOTE]
Nor am I. I have worked for a fair bit of time on the track with many many horses who ran at all levels. Where your recent horse purchases have been non-tb’s, mine have been all tb’s. (Judging from your posts here and your signature.)
You can not appreciate my comments, but were I looking at a WB, I would take some advice from you given that your experience would be far more detailed and immense than mine.
If you are happy then so be it. It’s your money and your horse.
~Emily
I do appreciate your input. I think the canter photos don’t do him justice. I spent an hour with him really looking at his build and movement, and I wasn’t that worried for what I want to do with him. I think he will fit my needs fine.
What I liked best was his attitude and his calmness, he’s a great soul, very quiet, and sweet. That’s worth it to me right there.
The other stuff, I can work out as we go. I don’t care if he doesn’t become a GP Dressage horse, I just want a good riding partner for myself.
I like big horses, and have owned many. I am glad I can give a sweet TB a good home. He will be happy with me.
LG.
I haven’t had any first hand experience with Waquoits but I’ve been told that he threw very large foals who tended to be good jumpers. I was also told that towards the end of his stallion career he was often chosen as a sire for fox hunters.
He had a good long life, but I was still sad when he died because many of the tb stallions around the midatlantic region just don’t have his sturdiness.
I’m always happy to see a horse sold through CANTER listings.
Congratulations!
The one I know is dead quiet to ride, but probably the spookiest horse I know on the ground. A very big grey. An average jumper form wise, but not athletic. A useful horse though.
My guy is not spooky at all. The woman that bred him still owns him. She can pull him out of the field and ride him with no prep after two weeks just hanging out. She said she was in the barn area on him at the track, and a bunch of dogs came running up barking and carrying on, he didn’t flinch. When I was out there, it was cold and windy, a dog was running around barking, he just quietly munched grass and was not even remotely bothered. She takes him out to just hack around at the track, and he’s always easy to ride.
I think he’s a good guy. He’s big, but he trotted out nice didn’t seem clumsy. I like the fact he hasn’t been shifted around a lot, he’s really only raced lightly, 5 starts total.
I think it’s worth a try. He’s going to be very nice looking when he’s filled out and muscled up, that I know.
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No reason to remove pics…
Since I am guessing my negative comments caused the OP to pull down the pic of this horse, I feel it better for all to see the horse. And I apologize for my words causing the removal of the original pics.
Pic 1: http://www.canterusa.org/midatlantic/sale/salephotos/QuoitADinner1.jpg
Pic 2: http://www.canterusa.org/midatlantic/sale/salephotos/QuoitADinner2.jpg
Head Shot: http://www.canterusa.org/midatlantic/sale/salephotos/QuoitADinner3.jpg
~Emily
After reading all of these posts, and the mostly positives about Waquoits babies, it has caused me to reavaluate my filly…maybe I should market her as a “sport horse prospect”…LOL… I think.
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Ok, I had these on the other thread, but I’ll post them here, instead- and add one that is better lit.
Here is the first week I got him, a few weeks later, and then a picture from last winter- this winter, he’s even more muscled-up and good-looking, but I don’t have any more recent (or less dirty) confo shots. He’s standing a little weird in the last one because he was just about to bite my friend holding him :o, but the difference between when I first got him and that picture still makes me smile.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2…pyoct05two.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2…yoct05five.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2…happypurty.jpg
No reason to remove pics…
Whoa back now a minute…
Let’s be real clear about my intent and reasons for posting the links to pics. (Which are not private, they are on a public sale site)
It was my actions, or in this case words, that caused you to pull the pic you posted. Since this is a thread about descendents of Waquoit and their suitability, its not fair to rob other readers of a visual image of one such descendent. Thus for 2 reasons, I posted the links to the pictures.
I didn’t do it to be mean. I am beyond grade-middle-high school tactics like that.
Also, I only mentioned my thoughts (based solely off the picture you posted) about his conformation. Of course since you have seen him in person your view is far better. And I trusted you when you said he was fine. CANTER pics can be deceiving, I know this very well.
I am a little confused why you think I have it in for you. I posted 4 times early on in this thread pulling in as much info as I could find to give you information. If I had it in for you, I wouldn’t have typed a word.
So to sum it up, I guess my apology from my last post meant nothing And you are not seeing that by having a baseline of what he looks like now, that people will see an immense improvement when you post pics of him in the future. And you’ll get the credit.
~Emily
Can’t comment on Waquoit or his relatives but wanted to say La Gringa, he looks like a sweet boy. And from what most people have said, comes from a line of horses known for their disposition. He’s big and a lacks muscle in that young great dane sort of way. With food and work, he’ll be a handsome boy. Good luck to you both!
Emily, exactly what are you trying to prove?
Thank you. I don’t intend for him to win confo hunters, just to be a good sane mount for me, to jump a little and have fun.
For that he is great, and it will be a fun project for me. Thanks for the kind words.
I know it’s a risk with any OTTB, but I trust the owner, her relatives are vets and she’s a very sweet lady… she really likes the horse.
I am going with my gut and I think it will be ok.
I think he looks cute (if you can call an animal that big “cute”) and will make a fine horse.
I know Emily pretty well and in her defense, she only saw pics and based her opinion on them. Em is “involved” with a professional horse photographer and as such knows that pics can deceive. She knows that CANTER pics can be even more tricky as neither handler nor photog are that experienced at setting up.
La Gringa, I’ve read alot of your posts and I don’t think you’ve ever written anything here that makes me “wonder.” (Meaning you seem pretty sane, or at least my kind of crazy;)) Em has been involved in moving horses off the track and her own event horse is one she trained to win as a 'chaser, so she knows TB’s. I’m sure you do as well but from the pic you offered, she made an assessment.
I’m sure that she’s pleased than another TB has found a happy home. You clearly had alot more info than she did, having seen him in person. Alot of times folks come on here and ask “Do you like him?” and folks hop to say how cute he is. Alot of those horses turn out to have very seious flaws. I don’t mean to imply that you would buy a horse off the opinions of us COTHers, but sometimes something stands out as negative and needs to be said. The second of the above pics is not flattering. He does look upsidedown.
If the buyer has sufficient counter arguments (as you did) to buy the horse that’s great. You know how much time and effort you are willing to put in to making a riding horse of him. It’s a project and only you as the buyer can determine how good a fit he is.
Good luck with him. He looks just like a horse at my barn named “Stretch.”
Thanks, I agree he is very upside down but I think that it is really just conditioning… a lot of them come off the track that way, they aren’t trained to have a topline… he was gelded very early at 6 months, he has no crest to speak of. I liked how he carried himself when he moved and his temperment is a total winner.
I think with time and work he will come around. I know this, he’s so big nobody is gonna believe me when I tell them he is a TB, his bones are big! He looks like a gangly WB to me.
We will see what happens. The lady that bred him really likes him, and chooses him to ride herself when she want to hack around…she’s like 5’ tall… as you can tell from the photos.
The second photo is bad, Giraffe neck, but you know I have seen Man O War’s pic on his pedigree page, and that Giraffe neck is there too. A lot of them have them on the track.
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Thanks, I agree he is very upside down but I think that it is really just conditioning… a lot of them come off the track that way, they aren’t trained to have a topline… he was gelded very early at 6 months, he has no crest to speak of. I liked how he carried himself when he moved and his temperment is a total winner.
I think with time and work he will come around. I know this, he’s so big nobody is gonna believe me when I tell them he is a TB, his bones are big! He looks like a gangly WB to me.
We will see what happens. The lady that bred him really likes him, and chooses him to ride herself when she want to hack around…she’s like 5’ tall… as you can tell from the photos.
The second photo is bad, Giraffe neck, but you know I have seen Man O War’s pic on his pedigree page, and that Giraffe neck is there too. A lot of them have them on the track.[/QUOTE]
For what it’s worth I saw him on Canter and you beat me to him He looks like a sweetie, if it doesn’t work out let me know
As the photographer, I have to apologize. And agree with you that the photos don’t do him justice at all. He had just gotten off the trailer (pretty much RIGHT then, he was on it when we walked by and the trainer pulled us over). He knew where he was and was looking around, and seemed to want to get to work, not stand and pose.
(that and my recently bought camera is really not as good as I expected it to be… LOL)