Rachel's Valentina

Even though she didn’t win, what a GUTSY race!! It looked like Cathryn Sophia had her beat & she battled back to get in front.
Well until Weep No More came from nowhere to steal the win :wink:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/98965/weep-no-more-stuns-ashland-at-30-1

After being out for 5 months, not a bad first race back. It’ll be interesting to see how she comes out of it, how much this try takes out of her(if anything).

Too bad there was such a light field. Five fillies on a cool but otherwise nice day over a dry track classified as fast? Disappointing.

Yes she did,

But I give a big congrats to Weep No More and her owner, Glen Bromagen. He’s been in the game a LONG time, nice guy very deserving. He was a share holder in Northern Dancer too. Big congrats to her trainer Rusty Arnold not a household name to most but been around a long time, good guy, good trainer.

[QUOTE=gumtree;8614361]
Yes she did,

But I give a big congrats to Weep No More and her owner, Glen Bromagen. He’s been in the game a LONG time, nice guy very deserving. He was a share holder in Northern Dancer too. Big congrats to her trainer Rusty Arnold not a household name to most but been around a long time, good guy, good trainer.[/QUOTE]

Oh I don’t mean to take away from what WNM did. She ran the perfect trip & earned her win.

I LOVE Rachel’s Valentina and was glad to see her run so well in her sophomore debut. That said, Weep No More gave everyone a thrill! This was my favorite race today, among many outstanding ones.

With her two foals, Rachel Alexandra has already out produced a vast number of wildly successful on the track race mares.

Oh, such a tough loss! She battled it out and finally had it, only to get passed at the end by a filly flying out of nowhere!

But, I love that Rachel’s daughter has proven to be a classy, gutsay, G1 caliber racehorse.

And and I love that Weep No More is a tail female back to Flute! How cool! See, great racemares can and DO make great broodmares!!

[QUOTE=findeight;8614359]
Too bad there was such a light field. Five fillies on a cool but otherwise nice day over a dry track classified as fast? Disappointing.[/QUOTE]

I think the mere presence of RV kept the field small… what an AMAZING run by Weep No More!

I love the comments on the chart, “Weep No More…still left with a daunting task entering the stretch…was full bore in the final strides and swamped the leaders in the shadow of the wire.”

Some comments are ho-hum.
And then there’s those that put a smile on your face. :slight_smile:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/chartEmb.cfm?track=KEE&raceDate=04/09/2016&cy=USA&rn=6

[QUOTE=mommy peanut;8614372]
Oh I don’t mean to take away from what WNM did. She ran the perfect trip & earned her win.[/QUOTE]

I know you didn’t.

Given Rachel’s reproductive issues it is a gift from the breeding gods that her second and I guess last foal was/is a filly. A very good one too! So the direct family will be able to continue on. A very fitting “legacy” for Mr. Jackson.

I posted this on the other thread; seems rational to post it here as well:
“She (Songbird) looks like her, uh … “half-sibling” Rachael Alexandra.
Yes. I KNOW you only use the term: half-sib, when foal is out of the same mare, not by the same sire.
But how close is Songbird’s dam to RA’s dam?
They both have that unusual divided star & blaze markings.”

Songbird is by the same sire as Rachael Alexandra; has that same divided star/blaze. She and R.Valentina are related.
Discuss?

[QUOTE=Howlin’Wolf;8615293]
I posted this on the other thread; seems rational to post it here as well:
“She (Songbird) looks like her, uh … “half-sibling” Rachael Alexandra.
Yes. I KNOW you only use the term: half-sib, when foal is out of the same mare, not by the same sire.
But how close is Songbird’s dam to RA’s dam?
They both have that unusual divided star & blaze markings.”

Songbird is by the same sire as Rachael Alexandra; has that same divided star/blaze. She and R.Valentina are related.
Discuss?[/QUOTE]

The dams share what? Forty Niner? There’s a lot of sires that stamp their foals with common uniqueness. It’s just coincidence that both horses ended up with somewhat similar markings.

Song Birds is by Medaglia d’Oro (Northern Dancer line by way of Sadler’s Wells) out of a West Acre mare (West Acre is a bit of an obscure stallion but by the good sire Fortyniner by Mr. Prospector).

Rachel’s Valentina is by Bernardini (by AP Indy, Seattle Slew line) out of a Medaglia d’Oro mare. So even for those non-Tb people who may call 2 TBs by the same sire “half” siblings they aren’t in this case.

The just share a “bit” of the same blood but in different places.

Song Bird is bred similar to RACHEL ALEXANDRA, Northern Dance line over Mr Prospector line. Nothing really “clever” a “tried and true” cross

IMO there is not really much “close” at all. But both share a lot of the same names going back. But this is pretty common in TBs

Valentina’ pedigree page;

http://www.equineline.com/tdn/pedigree.cfm?tk=SAR&cy=USA&rd=09/05/2015&rn=9&de=D&ref=9491568

Songbird’s

http://www.equineline.com/tdn/pedigree.cfm?tk=SA&cy=USA&rd=04/09/2016&rn=7&de=D%20%20&ref=9511159

Pedigree Insights: Rachel’s Valentina

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/pedigree-insights-rachels-valentina/

[QUOTE=spotted draft x filly;8615304]
The dams share what? Forty Niner? There’s a lot of sires that stamp their foals with common uniqueness. It’s just coincidence that both horses ended up with somewhat similar markings.[/QUOTE]
“Would you please just STOP. And go away??”
I value input from many people on CoTH’s message board, but YOURS is not one of them. You were likely in middleschool, or popping-out your puppies in 1999, when I first joined CoTH.

Thank you gumtree!

[QUOTE=gumtree;8615311]
Song Birds is by Medaglia d’Oro (Northern Dancer line by way of Sadler’s Wells) out of a West Acre mare (West Acre is a bit of an obscure stallion but by the good sire Fortyniner by Mr. Prospector).

Rachel’s Valentina is by Bernardini (by AP Indy, Seattle Slew line) out of a Medaglia d’Oro mare. So even for those non-Tb people who may call 2 TBs by the same sire “half” siblings they aren’t in this case.

The just share a “bit” of the same blood but in different places.

Song Bird is bred similar to RACHEL ALEXANDRA, Northern Dance line over Mr Prospector line. Nothing really “clever” a “tried and true” cross

IMO there is not really much “close” at all. But both share a lot of the same names going back. But this is pretty common in TBs

Valentina’ pedigree page;

http://www.equineline.com/tdn/pedigree.cfm?tk=SAR&cy=USA&rd=09/05/2015&rn=9&de=D&ref=9491568

Songbird’s

http://www.equineline.com/tdn/pedigree.cfm?tk=SA&cy=USA&rd=04/09/2016&rn=7&de=D%20%20&ref=9511159

Pedigree Insights: Rachel’s Valentina

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/pedigree-insights-rachels-valentina/[/QUOTE]
Thank you, gumtree. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Howlin’Wolf;8615319]
“Would you please just STOP. And go away??”
I value input from many people on CoTH’s message board, but YOURS is not one of them. You were likely in middleschool, or popping-out your puppies in 1999, when I first joined CoTH.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes: you asked a question, I answered. If I bother you that much just put me on ignore instead of replying with such a childish response.

[QUOTE=spotted draft x filly;8615355]
:rolleyes: you asked a question, I answered. If I bother you that much just put me on ignore instead of replying with such a childish response.[/QUOTE]

This… ignore is there for a reason :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Howlin’Wolf;8615293]
I posted this on the other thread; seems rational to post it here as well:
“She (Songbird) looks like her, uh … “half-sibling” Rachael Alexandra.
Yes. I KNOW you only use the term: half-sib, when foal is out of the same mare, not by the same sire.
But how close is Songbird’s dam to RA’s dam?
They both have that unusual divided star & blaze markings.”

Songbird is by the same sire as Rachael Alexandra; has that same divided star/blaze. She and R.Valentina are related.
Discuss?[/QUOTE]

Maybe it’s just me but I think quite a few of the horses with Medaglia D’Oro blood in them have markings similar to Rachael Alexandria and Songbird. In fact the first time I saw Songbird I bet myself she had Medaglia D’Oro somewhere in her.

[QUOTE=shiningwizard255;8616489]
Maybe it’s just me but I think quite a few of the horses with Medaglia D’Oro blood in them have markings similar to Rachael Alexandria and Songbird. In fact the first time I saw Songbird I bet myself she had Medaglia D’Oro somewhere in her.[/QUOTE]

Me too; I’ve also seen other MD’Os with the similar star/snip combo. Not terribly unusual. He tends to make a pretty stamp of a filly, too, regardless of the face markings. Many of his dark bay fillies (in addition to Songbird and Rachel Alexandra) have a similar look about them.