How would you interpret the following?
DP=5-1-2-0-0 (8) DI=7.00 CD=1.38 GSV=46.09
I’d appreciate any feedback. Thanks
Originally posted by hobie cat:
First off you need to know the circumference of the racetrack in question. Secondly you need to know the distance of the race. Most tracks are a mile, which means a mile race starts at the finish line and ends there, meaning 2 turns. Some tracks are smaller, like Charlestown and Los Alamitos, meaning 6 furlong+ races are at least 2 turns. Some tracks are larger like Arlington and Belmont. If a track is a mile and the race is a mile, chances are its a 2 turn race. Some tracks are a mile but have a chute that allows a one turn mile such as Arlington. If you are looking at a program there will be a diagram of the track signifying where the start and finish are.
So… did that confuse you further or what??? lol
Jessi
Well, let me ask you this: on a normal track, not a bullring track, are you saying that any race that is a mile is two turns, excluding Belmont, as it is huge? (Are Arlington and Belmont different because they are such large tracks?) Aaackk, there is a WHOLE LOT more to racing than peeps think, imo.
Thank you for answering though, and bear with me, ok.
AB
Even better, I’ll pin it.
http://www.fasigtipton.com/catalogs/2005/1003/EFPEDOUT.PDF
In the above you are looking at a typical sales page. Hip 1 is by Chief Seattle out of an unraced mare. HER dam (the colt’s second dam) is Jungle Gold. Jungle Gold has black type, in capital letters indicating that she was a stakes winner. A brief description of her record follows her name.
Further down, under the colt’s third dam, you’ll see the name Seattle Sunrise. He has blck type in lower case letters, meaning he was stakes placed (2nd or 3rd) but never won a stakes race. BTW, the designation “Sire” after his name means that he has sired at least one horse to win a race.
This horse’s 3rd dam (Gold Sun) was a pretty important mare. She produced the dam of Cigar but her daughter Jungle Gold didn’t produce much and this baby’s dam didn’t even race.
Louise, I usually refer folks back to this thread so I dont have to keep 'splaining how to interpret an APR all of the time… will copy and paste so at least its on the same thread and easy to find.
Jessi
posted Aug. 03, 2004 08:36 PM
I will use this one for an explanation:
1997 French Reign,f,Miswaki 4 35 1 13 8 83,702 ( 83) 1.10
North America Turf Record 5 0 1 2 7,860 ( 81)
North America Dirt Sprints 12 0 7 1 30,095 ( 80)
North America Dirt Routes 18 1 5 5 45,747 ( 83)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 1 0 1,501 ( 73)
DP = 11-5-13-1-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.87 AWD = 8.32
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1998 1452 $75,000 $112,796 ylg (16/27) $35,000
French Reign, a 1997 mare by Miswaki, ran during 4 calendar years making 35 starts, with 1 win, 13 seconds, 8 thirds earning 83,702. Her highest speed rating was 83, and her SSI (Standard Starts Index) was 1.10. Then its broken down by category… for example the next line is turf. She ran 5 times with 0 wins, 1 second and 2 thirds on turf earning 7,860. Her highest speed rating on turf was an 81 (close to her personal best of 83). Same thing for the next line on dirt sprints (Less than a mile) and the following line on dirt routes (mile or over). And finally they tell you how she ran on an “off” (muddy/sloppy) track (1 start, 1 second). IF she had run as a 2 yo they would have had that above the line for turf, but this mare didnt race as a 2 yo.
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1998 1452 $75,000 $112,796 ylg (16/27) $35,000
She was sold at Keeneland Sept yearling sale in 98 as Hip # 1452 for $75k against her sires yearling average of 112,796 for that year. Out of 27 Miswaki yearlings sold that year she was the 16th most expensive. His stud fee when she was bred was 35k. I posted elsewhere explaining about the SSI, will find it and edit this message to add that info so I dont have to type it all over again… cuz I’m lazy! lol
DP = 11-5-13-1-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.87 AWD = 8.32
The above line is Dosage Points, Center of Distribution, and Average Winning Distance (in furlongs, so 8.32 f = 1 mile 70 yards I believe). Go here to learn more about Dosage Points.
And here is the SSI info:
About SSI: The SSI is a numerical representation of a runners race record in comparison with all other runners regardless of years raced, number of starts and sex. The higher the number, the better the runner. For comparison purposes a runner with an SSI of 32.19 is in the top 0.01% of all runners, and a runner with an SSI of 1.00 is in the top 21.3% of all runners. It is also important to nkow that 50% of all runners have an SSI of 0.36 or better, and 12.4% of all runners earned no money and have an SSI of 0.00.
If any of this is unclear let me know!
BUMP!!
Finally, one I can answer! Dogs are orange pilons put up on a sloppy track to keep horses off the rail. When gauging the speed of a work/breeze, it’s important to know that the horse worked around the dogs because, theoretically, it’s a longer distance. It would be the same as a horse “going wide” around a turn in a racing situation: the horse is covering more real estate.
thanks so much for answering all these totally obscure questions! I really wondered that every time I saw a race. I thought they started up on top of the helmet, then the jockey pulled off the ones on his/her eyes, pulled down a pair off the helmet, and i was like 
at the thought of doing all that while galloping! 
I feel better now
Simkie - I’m sure she’ll be fu\ine so as long as you don’t try and load in in a starting gate, lol - A bit OT here, but do you have a picture of Desert Secret?
Can I just say…wow.
Now I know most of this stuff, but even I am impressed with how easy to understand, clear and best of all, in one place!!!
Too bad my ‘big’ horse has horrible dosage!!!
~Emily
“(d) Worked around dogs”
huh?
Ugly guys?
Slow horses?
Canines on the track? I thought this was a big no no. But maybe it’d explain why Saskatoon didn’t mind Tessa running around in the leaves when I tried him! Oh, and generally annoying the guard (pygmy) goat!!
Question on betting: If you placed a $2 bet on Giacomo and Closing argument to show at the derby what would it have paid off for each one, I understand the pay off for winning- but what if you placed a bet to just “show”
Right now they are running on the Inner Track at Aqueduct. Its a mile around, and its inside the main track, where you might expect to find a turf course. Because of the configuration, without chutes, they only run races at 6 furlongs, one mile, 1 1/16 etc up to 1 1/4 miles which begins awkwardly on the turn. To bein a sprint at 7furlongs on a turn would be very unfair to most of the field. The racing secretary, who decides what races are to be held, has to take into account the layout of the track as well as the availablilty of horses to “fill” each race.
Its not really algebra, its English. H/J folks and racing folks are “two people divided by a common language.” Its the terminology thats got you! 
For example a horseshow sends a “prize list” from which you select classes/divisions to enter. A track publishes a “condition book” which describes upcoming races and their conditions of eligiblity. Its this book that trainers use to select races for their stock.
Track and training center abbreviation codes for North America:
AC AGUA CALIENTE TIJUANA, MEXICO
AD ARIZONA DOWNS PHOENIX, ARIZONA
AIK AIKEN (HUNT) AIKEN, SOUTH CAROLINA
AKS RESULTS AK-SAR-BEN OMAHA, NEBRASKA
ALB RESULTS ALBUQUERQUE ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO
ALI ALLIANCE
ANF ANTHONY DOWNS ANTHONY, KANSAS
AP RESULTS ARLINGTON INTERNATIONAL ARLINGTON HEIGHTS,ILLINOIS
(was Arlington Park before 1989)
AQU CHARTS AQUEDUCT JAMAICA, NEW YORK
ARA AURORA ILLINOIS
ARP ARAPAHOE PARK AURORA, COLORADO
ASC ASCOT PARK NORTH RANDALL, OHIO
ASD ASSINIBOIA DOWNS WINNIPEG, MANITOBA, CANADA
ATH ATLANTA (HUNT MEET IN GEORGIA)
ATL RESULTS ATLANTIC CITY ATLANTIC CITY, NEW JERSEY
ATO ATOKAD PARK SOUTH SIOUX CITY, NEBRASKA
AUD AUDUBON PARK HENDERSON, KENTUCKY
AVN AVON (STP) AVON, NEW YORK
BB BLUE BONNETS MONTREAL, QUEBEC, CANADA
BCF BROWN COUNTRY FAIR ABERDEEN, SOUTH DAKOTA
BD BERKSHIRE DOWNS HANCOCK, MASSACHUSETTS
BEL CHARTS BELMONT PARK ELMONT, NEW YORK
BEU RESULTS BEULAH PARK GROVE CITY, OHIO
BF BROCKTON FAIR BROCKTON, MASSACHUSETTS
BGD BLUE GRASS DOWNS PADUCAH, KENTUCKY
BIL BILLINGS BILLINGS, MONTANA
BIR RESULTS BIRMINGHAM TURF CLUB BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA
BKF BLACK FOOT BLACKFOOT, IDAHO
BLR BEL AIR
BM CHARTS BAY MEADOWS SAN MATEO, CALIFORNIA
BMF CHARTS BAY MEADOWS FAIR SAN MATEO, CALIFORNIA
BML CHARTS BALMORAL PARK CRETE, ILLINOIS
BND BANDERA DOWNS BANDERA, TEXAS
BOI LES BOIS PARK BOISE, IDAHO
BOW BOWIE BOWIE, MARYLAND
BRD BLUE RIBBON DOWNS SALLISAW, OKLAHOMA
BRN HARNEY COUNTY FAIR BURNS, OREGON
BRO BROCKHILL FARM RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA
CAM CAMDEN (HUNT) CAMDEN, SOUTH CAROLINA
CAS CASSIA COUNTY FAIR IDAHO
CBY RESULTS CANTERBURY PARK SHAKOPEE, MINNESOTA
CD CHARTS CHURCHILL DOWNS LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY
CDA COEUR D’ALENE COEUR D’ALENE, IDAHO
CEG CALGARY CALGARY, ALBERTA,CANADA
CEN CENTENNIAL RACE TRACK LITTLETON, COLORADO
CHA CHARLESTON (HUNT) CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA
CHL CHARLOTTE CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA
CI CONEY ISLAND CINCINNATI, OHIO
CKA COHAKIA DOWNS EAST ST. LOUIS, ILLINOIS
CLG TROUT SPRINGS TRNG CTR ALBERTA, CANADA
CLM CLEMMONS (HUNT) CLEMMONS, NORTH CAROLINA
CLS COLUMBUS COLUMBUS, NEBRASKA
CNL COLONIAL DOWNS RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
COM COMMODORE DOWNS FAIRVIEW, PENNSYLVANIA
CP CONNAUGHT PARK AYLMOR, QUEBEC, CANADA
CPW CHIPPEWA DOWNS NORTH DAKOTA
CRC CHARTS CALDER RACE COURSE MIAMI, FLORIDA
CRN CRANWOOD PARK CLEVELAND, OHIO
CT RESULTS CHARLES TOWN CHARLES TOWN, WEST VIRGINIA
CWF CENTRAL WYOMING FAIR CASER, WYOMING
CWL CUMBERLAND CUMBERLAND, MARYLAND
DAD DADE PARK KENTUCKY
DAR DARBY DOWNS GROVE CITY, OHIO
DAY DAYTON DAYTON, WASHINGTON
DED DELTA DOWNS VINTON, LOUISIANA
DEL RESULTS DELAWARE PARK WILMINGTON, DELAWARE
DEP DESERT PARK OSOYOOS, BRITISH COLUMBIA
DET RESULTS DETROIT RACE COURSE LIVONIA, MICHIGAN
DG COCHISE COUNTY FAIR @ DOUGLAS DOUGLAS, ARIZONA
DMF DEL MAR FAIR DEL MAR, CALIFORNIA
DMR CHARTS DEL MAR DEL MAR, CALIFORNIA
DOV DOVER DOWNS DOVER, DELAWARE
DUE DUELING GROUNDS KENTUCKY
(is now Kentucky Downs, use DUE from 1/1/90 to 12/31/95; see KD)
DUF DUFFERIN PARK ONTARIO, CANADA
DUN GREENELEE COUNTY FAIR @ DUNCAN DUNCAN, ARIZONA
DUQ DU QUOIN DU QUOIN, ILLINOIS
DVP DORVAL PARK QUEBEC, CANADA
DXD DIXIE DOWNS ST. GEORGE, UTAH
ED ENERGY DOWNS GILLETTE, WYOMING
EDM EDMONTON EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA
ELK ELKO COUNTY FAIR NEVADA
ELM ELMA
ELP CHARTS ELLIS PARK OWENSBORO, KENTUCKY
EMD EMERALD DOWNS AUBURN, WASHINGTON
EMP EMPIRE CITY NEW YORK
EMT GEM COUNTY EMMETT, IDAHO
EP EXHIBITION PARK VANCOUVER, B.C., CANADA
(Name changed to Hastings Park -HST- beginning in 1994)
ERD ERIE DOWNS FAIRVIEW, PENNSYLVANIA
EUR EUREKA EUREKA, KANSAS
EVD EVANGELINE DOWNS LAFAYETTE, LOUISIANA
FAI FAIR HILL (HUNT) FAIR HILL, MARYLAND
FAR NORTH DAKOTA FAIR FARGO, NORTH DAKOTA
FAX FAIRFAX (HUNT) FAIRFAX, VIRGINIA
FD FLORIDA DOWNS TAMPA, FLORIDA
FE RESULTS FORT ERIE FORT ERIE, ONTARIO, CANADA
FER FERNDALE FERNDALE, CALIFORNIA
FG RESULTS FAIR GROUNDS NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA
FGS FAIRGROUNDS SPEEDWAY LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY
FH FAR HILLS (HUNT) FAR HILLS, NEW JERSEY
FL RESULTS FINGER LAKES FARMINGTON, NEW YORK
FLG FLAGSTAFF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA
FM FORT MIAMI MAUMEE, OHIO
FMT FAIR MEADOWS TULSA, OKLAHOMA
FNO FRESNO FRESNO, CALIFORNIA
FON FONNER PARK GRAND ISLAND, NEBRASKA
FOX FOXBORO FOXBORO, MASSACHUSETTS
FP FAIRMOUNT PARK COLLINSVILLE, ILLINOIS
FPL FAIR PLAY PARK HASTINGS, NEBRASKA
FPX CHARTS FAIRPLEX PARK POMONA, CALIFORNIA
FTP FORT PIERRE FORT PIERRE, SOUTH DAKOTA
FX FOXFIELD (HUNT) FOXFIELD, VIRGINIA
GBF GREAT BARRINGTON FAIR GREAT BARRINGTON, MASSACHUSETTS
GCF GILA COUNTY FAIR GLOBE, ARIZONA
GD GALWAY DOWNS TRNG CTR CALIFORNIA
GF GREAT FALLS GREAT FALLS, MONTANA
GG CHARTS GOLDEN GATE FIELDS ALBANY, CALIFORNIA
GIL GILLESPIE CO. FAIRGROUND FREDERICKSBURG, TEXAS
GLD GREAT LAKES DOWNS MUSKEEGON, MICHIGAN
GLN GLYNDON (HUNT) MD HUNT CLUB COURSE GLYNDON,MD
GM GREEN MOUNTAIN POWNAL, VERMONT
GMP GRESHAM PARK PORTLAND, OREGON
GN GRAND NATIONAL (HUNT) BUTLER, MARYLAND
GP CHARTS GULFSTREAM PARK HALLANDALE, FLORIDA
GPR GRAND PRAIRIE ALBERTA, CANADA
GRA GREEN ACRES VALDOSTA, GEORGIA
GRD RESULTS GREENWOOD REXDALE, ONTARIO, CANADA
GRM GREAT MEADOWS (HUNT) VIRGINIA
GRP GRANTS PASS GRANTS PASS, OREGON
GS CHARTS GARDEN STATE PARK CHERRY HILL, NEW JERSEY
GTW GATEWAY DOWNS HOLLY, COLORADO
GV GENESEE VALLEY (HUNT) GENESEE, NEW YORK
HAG HAGERSTOWN HAGERSTOWN, MARYLAND
HAM HAMILTON (ONT) HAMILTON, ONTARIO, CANADA
HAP HARBOR PARK ELMA, WASHINGTON
HAW CHARTS HAWTHORNE CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
HCF HUMBOLDT COUNTY FAIR WINNEMUCCA, NEVADA
HDG HAVRE DE GRACE HAVRE DE GRACE, MARYLAND
HIA CHARTS HIALEAH PARK HIALEAH, FLORIDA
HLN HELENA DOWNS MONTANA
HLP KENTUCKY HELPHUNTERS KENTUCKY
HO HAMILTON HAMILTON, OHIO
HOB NAVAJO COUNTY FAIR ARIZONA
HOL CHARTS HOLLYWOOD PARK INGLEWOOD, CALIFORNIA
HOO HOOSIER PARK ANDERSON, INDIANA
HOU CHARTS SAM HOUSTON HOUSTON, TEXAS
HP RESULTS HAZEL PARK HAZEL PARK, MICHIGAN
HPO HORSEMEN’S PARK OMAHA, NEBRASKA
HST HASTINGS PARK VANCOUVER, BR. COL., CANADA
(from 1920 through 1993, was named Exhibition Park -EP-)
HUF HUNTER FARM TRNG CTR FLORIDA
HWK HAWKS RIDGE TRNG CTR FLORIDA
IMP IMPERIAL CALIFORNIA
IND INDIANA DOWNS SHELBYVILLE, INDIANA
ING INGLESIDE PHOENIX, ARIZONA
ITC INFIELDS TRNG CTR FLORIDA
JAM JAMAICA JAMAICA, NEW YORK
JEF JEFFERSON PARK LOUISIANA
JND JEFFERSON DOWNS KENNER, LOUISIANA
JRM JEROME COUNTY FAIR IDAHO
KAM KAMLOOPS KAMLOOPS, BR. COL., CANADA
KD KENTUCKY DOWNS KENTUCKY
KEE CHARTS KEENELAND LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY
KEP KENILWORTH PARK ONTARIO, CANADA
KEY KEYSTONE RACE TRACK BENSALEM, PENNSYLVANIA
KHC KY HORSE CTR TRNG CTR KENTUCKY
KIN KIN PARK VERNON, BR. COL., CANADA
KLF KALMATH COUNTY FAIR OREGON
KYR KENTUCKY RACEWAY KENTUCKY
KSP KALISPELL MONTANA
KTC KENNINGTON TRNG CTR KENTUCKY
LA RESULTS LOS ALAMITOS LOS ALAMITOS, CALIFORNIA
LAD RESULTS LOUISANA DOWNS BOSSIER CITY, LOUISIANA
LAM LA MESA PARK RATON, NEW MEXICO
LAR NUEVO LAREDO NUEVO LAREDO, MEXICO
LAT LATONIA FLORENCE, KENTUCKY
(is now Turfway Park, use LAT from 1/1/76 to 4/3/86; see TP)
LAV LAS VEGAS PARK LAS VEGAS, NEVADA
LB LONG BRANCH LONG BRANCH, ONTARIO, CANADA
LBG LETHBRIDGE LETHBRIDGE, ALBERTA, CANADA
LBT LAUREL BROWN RACE TRACK UTAH
LD LINCOLN DOWNS PAWTUCKET, RHODE ISLAND
LEB LEBANON LEBANON, OHIO
LEV LITTLE EVERGLADES DADE CITY, FLORIDA
LEX LEXINGTON (HUNT) HIGH HOPE STPLCHS,LEXINGTON,KY
LF LINCOLN FIELDS CRETE, ILLINOIS
LGA LONGACRES SEATTLE, WASHINGTON
(closed - racing in the area now at Emerald Downs -EMD-)
LIB LIBERTY BELL PARK PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA
LIG LIGONIER (HUNT) LIGONIER, PENNSYLVANIA
LNN LINCOLN STATE FAIR LINCOLN, NEBRASKA
LP LAS PALMAS CALIFORNIA
LP LANSDOWN PARK RICHMOND, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA
LRL CHARTS LAUREL RACE COURSE BALTIMORE, MARYLAND
LS LONESTAR PARK TEXAS
LXG KY ASSOC COURSE KENTUCKY
MAD MADISON MADISON, NEBRASKA
MAF MARIAS FAIR MONTANA
MAL MALVERN (HUNT) MALVERN, PENNSYLVANIA
MAN MANOR DOWNS TEXAS
MAR MARLBORO BOWIE, MARYLAND
MAS MASON-DIXON (HUNT) MASON-DIXON, OHIO
MAU MAUMEE DOWNS MAUMEE, OHIO
MBK MEADOWBROOK OLD WESTBURY, NEW YORK
MBO MIDDLEBORO FAIR LAXEVILLE, MASSACHUSETTS
MC COW CAPITAL TURF CLUB MONTANA
MCH MITCHELL MITCHELL, NEBRASKA
MD MARQUIS DOWNS REGINA, SASKATCHEWAN, CANADA
MDA MELVILLE DISTRICT AGRIPAR MELVILLE, SASKATCHEWAN
MDY MEADOWLANDS ALTERNATE NEW JERSEY
MED CHARTS MEADOWLANDS EAST RUTHERFORD, NEW JERSEY
MEM MEMORIAL PARK BRUSH, COLORADO
MF MARSHFIELD FAIR MARSHFIELD, MASSACHUSETTS
MGO MARENGO PLANTATION NEW KENT, VIRGINIA
MI MIDWAY DOWNS OKLAHOMA
MID MIDDLEBURG (HUNT) MIDDLEBURG, VIRGINIA
MIL MILLARVILLE ALBERTA, CANADA
MIM MIAMI MIAMI, FLORIDA
MJC MARYLAND JOCKEY CLUB MARYLAND
MLO MILO RACE TRACK ALBERTA, CANADA
MNR RESULTS MOUNTAINEER PARK CHESTER, WEST VIRGINIA
(use MNR for Mountaineer Park since 1/1/90; see MTN & WAT)
MOF MOHAVE COUNTY FAIR ARIZONA
MOL MOLINE
MON MONKTON (HUNT) MONKTON, MARYLAND
MOR MORVEN PARK (HUNT) LEESBURG, VIRGINIA
MP MILES PARK LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY
MPL MAPLE HEIGHTS OHIO
MPM MT. PLEASANT MOUNT PLEASANT, MICHIGAN
MTC MIDDLETOWN TRNG CTR VIRGINIA
MTH CHARTS MONMOUTH PARK OCEANPORT, NEW JERSEY
MTN MOUNTAINEER PARK CHESTER, WEST VIRGINIA
(use MTN for Mountaineer from 7/2/87 through 12/31/89; see MNR & WAT)
MTP MONTPELIER (HUNT) MONTPELIER, VIRGINIA
MTY MONMOUTH ALTERNATE NEW JERSEY
MUS MUSKEGON MUSKEGON, MICHIGAN
MWB MEADOWBROOK TRNG CTR FLORIDA
NAR NARRAGANSETT PARK PAWTUCKET, RHODE ISLAND
NHF NEW HAVEN FARM TRNG CTR FLORIDA
NMP NORTHAMPTON NORTHAMPTON, MASSACHUSETTS
NP NORTHLANDS PARK EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA
NWF NEW FARM TRNG CTR NEW JERSEY
NYR NEW YORK RACING OFFICE NEW YORK
OAK OAK TREE CALIFORNIA
OKR OAK RIDGE LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA
OMA OMAHA OMAHA, NE
ONE ONEIDA COUNTY FAIR IDAHO
OP CHARTS OAKLAWN PARK HOT SPRINGS, ARKANSAS
OPX OAKLAWN PARK SIMULCAST ARKANSAS
OTC OCALA TRAINING CENTER OCALA, FLORIDA
OW OLD WOODBINE REXDALE, ONTARIO, CANADA
OXM OXMOOR (HUNT) LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY
PAF PARADISE FARM TRNG CTR TEXAS
PAY PAYSON PARK TRNG CTR FLORIDA
PBD PALM BEACH DOWNS FLORIDA
PEN RESULTS PENN NATIONAL GRANTVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA
PHA RESULTS PHILADELPHIA PARK BENSALEM, PENNSYLVANIA
PHO PHOENIX FAIRGROUNDS PHOENIX, ARIZONA
PIC PICOV DOWNS MANITOBA, CANADA
PIM CHARTS PIMLICO BALTIMORE, MARYLAND
PIT PITT PARK PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLANIA
PJ PARK JEFFERSON JEFFERSON, SOUTH DAKOTA
PLA PLAYFAIR SPOKANE, WASHINGTON
PLN CHARTS PLEASANTON PLEASANTON, CALIFORNIA
PLP POLO PARK WINNIPEG, MANITOBA, CANADA
PM PORTLAND MEADOWS PORTLAND, OREGON
PMB PALM BEACH (HUNT) PALM BEACH, FLORIDA
PMF PORTLAND MEADOWS FAIR PORTLAND, OREGON
PMT PINE MOUNTAIN (HUNT) GALLOWAY GARDENS, GEORGIA
POC POCONO DOWNS WILKES BARRE, PENNSYLVANIA
POD POCTELLO DOWNS IDAHO
POM RESULTS (SEE FPX) POMONA, CALIFORNIA
PPM PIKES PEAK MEADOWS FOUNTAIN, COLORADO
PPK POMPANO PARK FLORIDA
PRN PRINEVILLE TURF CLUB OREGON
PRO PROSPECT (HUNT) PROSPECT, KENTUCKY
PRM PRAIRIE MEADOWS ALTOONA, IOWA
PRV CROOKED RIVER ROUNDUP OREGON
PSP SPORTSMANS PARK (PHOE) PHOENIX, ARIZONA
PTC POST TIME TRNG CTR FLORIDA
PW PERCY WARNER (HUNT) NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE
PYF PLUMLEY FARM TRNG CTR FLORIDA
QBY QUEENSBURY DOWNS REGINA, SASKATCH., CANADA
RAC RACELAND KENTUCKY
RAN RANDALL PARK NORTH RANDALL, OHIO
RAP RAPID CITY RAPID CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA
RAT RACEWAY PARK TOLEDO, OHIO
RAV RAVALLI COUNTY FAIR MONTANA
RB RED BANK (HUNT) RED BANK, NEW JERSEY
RD RESULTS RIVER DOWNS CINCINNATI, OHIO
RDA WESTERNER EXH. ASSOC. ALBERTA, CANADA
RDM RED MILE LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY
RDP RED DEER PARK ALBERTA, CANADA
REG REGINA REGINA, SASKATCHEWAN, CANADA
RET RETAMA PARK SELMA, TEXAS
RIL RILLITO TUCSON, ARIZONA
RKM RESULTS ROCKINGHAM PARK SALEM, NEW HAMPSHIRE
RKV ROCKY VALLEY TRNG CTR FLORIDA
ROF RED OAK FARM FLORIDA
ROP ROUND UP PARK COLORADO
RP RESULTS REMINGTON PARK OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA
RPD ROSSBURN PARKLAND DOWNS ROSSBURN, MANITOBA
RP1 REMINGTON PARK RCNG OFC OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA
RUI RUIDOSO DOWNS RUIDOSO, NEW MEXICO
RUP MINIDOKA COUNTY FAIR IDAHO
RWD ROLLIE WHITE DOWNS TEXAS
SA CHARTS SANTA ANITA PARK ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA
SAC SACRAMENTO SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA
SAF GRAHAM COUNTY FAIR ARIZONA
SAG SAGEBRUSH DOWNS OREGON
SAL SALEM SALEM, OREGON
SAN SANDOWN PARK VICTORIA, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA
SAR CHARTS SARATOGA SARATOGA SPRINGS, NEW YORK
SAS SASKATOON SASKATOON, SASKATCH., CANAD
SCD SCARBOROUGH DOWNS SCARBOROUGH, MAINE
SED SEDALIA SEDALIA, MISSOURI
SDY SANDY DOWNS IDAHO FALLS, IDAHO
SEM SEMINOLE DOWNS CASSELBERRY, FLORIDA
SFE SANTA FE DOWNS SANTA FE, NEW MEXICO
SGC STARTING GATE TRNG CTR FLORIDA
SH STRAWBERRY HILL (HUNT) RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
SHD SHENNANDOAH DOWNS CHARLESTOWN, WEST VIRIGINA
SHW SHAWAN DOWNS BUTLER, MARYLAND
SJ APACHE COUNTY FAIR ARIZONA
SJD SAN JUAN DOWNS NEW MEXICO
SJM ST. JAMES FARM (STP) WARRENSVILLE, ILLINOIS
SLR SAN LUIS REY DOWNS T/CTR CALIFORNIA
SLV SILVER PARK SILVER CITY, NEW MEXICO
SND SUNFLOWER DOWNS PRINCETON, BR. COL., CANADA
SOL RESULTS SOLANO VALLEJO, CALIFORNIA
SON SANTA CRUZ COUNTY FAIR ARIZONA
SND SUNFLOWER DOWNS PRINCETON, BRITISH COLUMBIA
SOP SOUTHERN PINES (HUNT) SOUTHERN PINES, NORTH CAROLINA
SP SUNSHINE PARK TAMPA, FLORIDA
SPC STARTING POINT TRNG CTR FLORIDA
SPG ILLINOIS STATE FAIR ILLINOIS
SPS SUPERIOR STABLE TRNG CTR FLORIDA
SPT CHARTS SPORTSMAN’S PARK CICERO, ILLINOIS
SR CHARTS SANTA ROSA SANTA ROSA, CALIFORNIA
SRP SUN RAY PARK FARMINGTON, NEW MEXICO
(was San Juan Downs before 1999)
SST SUNRISE STABLE S TRNG CTR FLORIDA
STK RESULTS STOCKTON STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA
STL ST LOUIS (HUNT) ST LOUIS, MISSOURI
STN STONEYBROOK AT FIVE POINTS RAEFORD, NORTH CAROLINA
STP STAMPEDE PARK EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA
SUD SUN DOWNS TRI CITIES, WASHINGTON
SUF RESULTS SUFFOLK DOWNS EAST BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS
SUN SUNLAND PARK SUNLAND PARK, NEW MEXICO
SWF SWEETWATER FAIR ROCK SPRINGS, WYOMING
TAM RESULTS TAMPA BAY DOWNS TAMPA, FLORIDA
TAN TANFORAN ALBANY, CALIFORNIA
TC TRAINING CENTER
TCT TOWN & COUNTRY TRNG CTR FLORIDA
TDN RESULTS THISTLEDOWN NORTH RANDALL, OHIO
TDS TRACK DATA TEST MARYLAND
TET SANDY DOWNS IDAHO
THF THORNCLIFFE PARK TORONTO, ONTARIO, CANADA
TIA TIJUANA TIJUANA, MEXICO
TIL TILLAMOOK COUNTY FAIR OREGON
TIM CHARTS TIMONIUM TIMONIUM, MARYLAND
TOP TOPSFIELD FAIR TOPSFIELD, MASSACHUSETTS
TP CHARTS TURFWAY PARK FLORENCE, KENTUCKY
(was Latonia until 4/3/86; see LAT)
TRM TRINITY MEADOWS WILLOW PARK, TEXAS
TRP TROPICAL PARK MIAMI, FLORIDA
TRO TROCHU ALBERTA, CANADA
TRS TRI-STATE PARK JEFFERSON, SOUTH DAKOTA
TRU TRUFORM TEST CALIFORNIA
TRY TRYON (HUNT) TRYON, NORTH CAROLINA
TS TROUT SPRINGS ALBERTA, CANADA
TSF TRACKSIDE FARM FLORIDA
TUC TUCSON TUCSON, ARIZONA
TUP TURF PARADISE PHOENIX, ARIZONA
UD URANIUM DOWNS GRAND JUNCTION, COLORADO
UN E OREGON LIVESTOCK SHOW OREGON
UNI UNIONVILLE (HUNT) UNIONVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA
VAL VALHALLA FARMS TRNG CTR TEXAS
VIC VICTORVILLE VICTORVILLE, CALIFORNIA
WAR WARRENTON (HUNT) WARRENTON, VIRGINIA
WAS WASHINGTON PARK ARLINGTON HEIGHTS, ILLINOIS
WAT WATERFORD PARK CHESTER, WEST VIRGINIA
(is now Mountaineer Park, use WAT for 1976 - 6/29/87; see MTN & MNR)
WBR WEBER DOWNS UTAH
WCD WELLS CO FAIR NORTH DAKOTA
WDS RESULTS WOODLANDS KANSAS CITY, KANSAS
WEY WEYMOUTH FAIR WEYMOUTH, MASSACHUSETTS
WH WINDY HILLS TRNG CTR CALIFORNIA
WHE WHEELING DOWNS WHEELING, WEST VIRGINIA
WIL WILLOWDALE STEEPLECHASE KENNETT SQUARE, PENNSYLVANIA
WIN WINDSOR RACEWAY WINDSOR, ONTARIO, CANADA
WMF WESTERN MT FAIR MONTANA
WO RESULTS WOODBINE REXDALE, ONTARIO, CANADA
WOR WOODSTOCK RANCH TRNG CTR FLORIDA
WPR WHITE PLAINS RACING NEVADA
WRD WILL ROGERS DOWNS CLAREMORE, OKLAHOMA
WTS WAITSBURG RACE TRACK WASHINGTON
WW WALLA WALLA WASHINGTON
WYO WYOMING DOWNS EVANSTON, WYOMING
WXF WEXFORD FARM TRNG CTR FLORIDA
XTC XALAPA TRNG CTR KENTUCKY
YAV YAVAPAI DOWNS PRESCOTT, ARIZONA
YD YELLOWSTONE DOWNS BILLINGS, MONTANA
YKT YORKTON EXH. ASSOC. SASKATCHEWAN, CANADA
YM YAKIMA MEADOWS YAKIMA, WASHINGTON
YMA YUMA COUNTY FAIR ARIZONA
ZIA ZIA PARK HOBBS, NEW MEXICO
Here’s another tidbit of info:
TB Tattoos consist of a letter followed by 5 numbers, i.e. S02072.
The letter corresponds to the birth year. In the example above, the birth year is 1989. The numbers are the rest of the registration. So the registration number printed on this horse’s papers would be 8902072.
A 1971
B 1972
C 1973
D 1974
E 1975
F 1976
G 1977
H 1978
I 1979
J 1980
K 1981
L 1982
M 1983
N 1984
O 1985
P 1986
Q 1987
R 1988
S 1989
T 1990
U 1991
V 1992
W 1993
X 1994
Y 1995
Z 1996
A 1997
B 1998
C 1999
D 2000
E 2001
F 2002
G 2003
H 2004
I 2005
J 2006
K 2007
L 2008
M 2009
N 2010
O 2011
P 2012
Q 2013
R 2014
S 2015
T 2016
U 2017
V 2018
W 2019
X 2020
Y 2021
Z 2022
Originally posted by Hunter_Rider:
Question on betting: If you placed a $2 bet on Giacomo and Closing argument to show at the derby what would it have paid off for each one, I understand the pay off for winning- but what if you placed a bet to just “show”
They paid $19.80 and $24.80 respectively.
Go to the DRF.com for results… i.e for this particular race… http://www.drf.com/results/07/rCD07.html?rn=405507
Scroll down to race 10.
I remember those pics of CT. He’s a handsome dude. I was in the paddock for the Travers that year (I was a big fan of Holy Bull) and remember thinking that the h/j folks would love Commanche for his cute markings.
The last racing pic in the sequence is from Saratoga.
Copelan was a brilliant 2yo who went on to be a good sire in Florida. He’s generally known as an influence for sprinter/milers. He’s been a very good broodmare sire.
As for Commanche in the Travers, he wasn’t entered to WIN, but to force Holy Bull to go so fast early that he wouldn’t have enough gas left to hold off the late charge from Tabasco Cat. Regretably, for his connections he failed as a rabbit, fading well before Bull was tired out. Happily for him, Pam eventually tracked him down and had Hobie Cat grab him! 
Accidental Buckaroo, are fruitflies anything like “fruitbats?”
From
http://drf.com/help/help_symbols.html
Symbols and Abbreviations
In Workout Line:
B Breezing
(d) Worked around dogs
D Driving
E Easily
g Worked from gate
H Handily
tr.t Training track
TR1 Training Race (this was 1st race)
1/25 Workout ranking
In Finish Line:
hd Head
nk Neck
no Nose
In Equipment Line:
b Horse wore blinkers
f Horse wore front bandages
In Medication Line:
B Butazolidin
L Lasix
In Color, Sex Line:
B Bay
Blk Black
Ch Chestnut
Dkb or br
Dark bay or brown
Gr Gray
Ro Roan
c colt
f filly
g gelding
h horse
m mare
r ridgling
In Track Condition Line:
Dirt Tracks:
fr Frozen
fst Fast
gd Good
hy Heavy
my Muddy
sl Slow
sly Sloppy
wf Wet-Fast
Turf & Steeplechase:
fm Firm
gd Good
hd Hard
hy Heavy
sf Soft
yl Yielding
In Quarter Horse Line:
Wind Direction
cw Cross wind
hw Head wind
tw Tail wind
I can get close enough to make both of us dangerous.
These numbers represent the horse’s Dosage Profile. Whoever it was who invented Dosage came up with 5 categories of quality horses – based on the distance of racing they excelled at (their stamina v. speed).
He then decided which horses were worthy of being given a designation (such as “Chef de Race”) and which designation(s) the horse got. When you look at a horse’s pedigree, if a horse’s sire has dosage points, he is given full credit in the appropriate category because he is in the first generation. A grandsire gets 1/2 his dosage points credited in the category appropriate to him and so on.
In this exapmple of the DP (Dosage Profile) the horse has ancestors which cumulatively total 5 sprinting points (the farthest left column), 1 medium short distance point and 2 middle distance points.
This means that there is virtually NO distance blood in his pedigree. The only “distance” blood is 1/2 of the 2 points of the middle number, which is always split 50/50 into the sprint and distance categories.
The (8) following these numbers is just a total of the 5+1+2.
The next set of numbers is the Dosage Index. This number gives you an idea of the balance of speed v. distance in a horse’s pedigree. To get the index, the numbers in the 2 left columns plus 1/2 of the number in the center column are divided by the numbers in the 2 right hand columns plus half the numbers in the center column.
In this case, that gives you 5+1+1 divided by 1 = 7
The higher the number, the more of a sprinter pedigree a horse has. The lower the number, the more stamina the horse has in his pedigree. The only time most people ever hear about dosage is during the Ky Derby: It is a commonly held belief that a horse with a dosage greater than 4 cannot win the Derby.
The CD is the center of distribution. It tells you how closely the numbers are grouped toward the center v. at the outer columns.
GSV I have heard of but do not understand… Sorry.
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Originally posted by Linny:
I would call that a “Where’s the fruitfly?” moment.
Where’s the Fruitbat=WTF (which equals what the f%^*)
Ahhh, yes it was definitely a WTF moment, in fact if I recall, a WTF 9 weeks. You see, the fruitflies were subdued by ether (which was used at that time, I know I am dating myself in saying this)-- I on the other hand, was terribly allergic to ether and kind of zoned out. The fruitflies were distributed in an enormous tube to the students, once the ether was in my system I saw 4 of everything, and well you can imagine from there.
