REALLY????!!!!!!

I only have one issue: you actually combined one of tandl’s comments into mine, thus making it look like I said something I didn’t. Ugh.

Regardless, my God not another one of those coats!!

It almost looks like the jacket is inside out. That’s such an odd style choice…

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Have you ever been in an H&M? :lol:

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If you get this worked about about JACKET … lordy I’d hate to have your life.

It’s a jacket.

Coming from a Western background, I am often astounded at how “uppity” people can sometimes get about the small things in the English events. It sometimes reminds me of clique high school girls … “Oh my gosh Becky did you SEE what she was wearing???”

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Ah, the western world has it’s own prissiness. You’ve seen the Western pleasure outfits, right? :wink:

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No, it isn’t.

Coats were waived.

There is no safety issue. If you were ranting about not wearing a body protector I could be interested: No coat?
So what?

I hardly think a GP show jump rider is ‘kicking the horse around’; both are likely rather fit, suited to the job and good at their work.

You do realize that horses evolved in steppe environment that has temperature extremes and they are quite capable of regulating their temperature when not overburdened with fat or plagued by metabolic issues?

Modern sidesaddle has only been around since the 1830’s; before that it was more a prerogative of the rich and not-involved-in any-athletic-riding…
Nowadays it would be considered a discipline, not necessarily a sport.

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Frankly, I thought it was rather refreshing to see that management opted to excuse coats due to the excessive heat. I also hope it provides an example to those trainers who insist their clients, especially Jrs., to wear their jackets no matter what, and to those show managers who stupidly decide to waive jackets in all classes but equitation. Practical Horsewoman’s post was right on point. Some handle heat better than others… I’ve seen kids vomit over the sides of their ponies, collapse in tears due to the heat because their trainers insisted they wear jackets and their parents not wanting to stand up for their child and stand up to the trainers. As I type this post, I’ve just learned about a patient in our ER - 26 year old male, garbage collector, suffering from heatstroke - he is delirious and somewhat combative. They’ve packed him in ice, and drs. moved him to a private room so they can put some fans on him.He may suffer brain damage, kidney failure and at this stage the mortality rate is 40%. So “Really???” The OP might be concerned about respect to the judges and show, fortunately management at Upperville was less concerned about respect and more concerned about rider safety. Kudos to Upperville. I was going to ride tonight, I’m rethinking that decision.

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@gottagrey That’s horrible. I am so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with the patient.

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I’m ALWAYS the first one to ask for jackets to be waived at shows!!! Even if it’s not that hot, I always ask the steward. I don’t like wearing jackets… unless it’s cold. :slight_smile:

I think there are much bigger problems on earth than riders in FEI classes that actually are in compliance with the rules…

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I generally use this formula, for the safety of both myself and my horse:

Air temperature (°F) + relative humidity - wind speed
< 130 = Ride as you will
130 - 170 = Ride with caution (low intensity workout)
> 170 = No riding

An additional factor, for me, is the sun. I’m see-through pale and the sun destroys me, so I try to ride after the sun goes down with the hour of light remaining, or when it’s cloudy.

So where I am, it is 85 °F, 68% relative humidity, with only 4mph wind average. My total is 149, so I’ll be doing probably just walk/trot this afternoon when I’m done working.

I can’t remember where I found it, it was eons ago, but it’s held pretty true so far.

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[h=1]Alessandro Albanese Motion Lite Show Jacket, is super for any hot day. You won’t notice it on.[/h]

Good point, but I suppose it seems that the majority of the English events appear this way (to me) whereas it’s only a couple of classes in Western (ex: western pleasure).

But at least we can wear different colored shirts in Western. Heaven forbid if you try to be colorful in English!! ;):wink:

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Think again :wink:
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LadyJ79, she did say shirts. :wink: I remember many a conniption over the coloured shirts that the QH/APHA etc. people were big into wearing a few years back.

I was going to say, at least in Western Pleasure the only pearl-clutching is over things like “Hot pink and black on THAT color horse?”, not “OMG, I cannot believe she wore THAT shade of tan breeches. Everyone is wearing brownish-tan, not GREENISH tan.” Or wondering if they should be daring enough to wear a really dark gray coat instead of a really dark blue coat. Or fussing if someone is wearing dress instead of field boots. I mean, sure, some WP outfits look like a clown vomited on a Halloween store after a Swarovski truck crashed into it, but at least most people are distinct!

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Haha I did say shirts!!! :wink:

But nice to see some color.

Said better than me. :yes:

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When I showed quarter horses I wore a sequined and/or metallic fabric in pleasure and pattern and a hunter green jacket in HUS. When I stopped showing western, an AQHA judge actually bought my show clothes hahaha because they were top! And obviously I’m getting old since I wore green.

But it was so exciting since in hunters I wore black. Because everyone wore black. Like, I don’t even think my local tack store of the 80s even carried a coat that wasn’t black. Which is probably why as an adult I had black and navy and hunter and a pink window pane.

My dream these days is a purple shadbelly. To just wear around since I’ll never ever be good enough to show in one :lol:
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I personally prefer the look of a tucked in polo always. In all disciplines. If jackets are waived, mine is gone. In winter, a long sleeved, turtleneck & vest is better. But, I find jackets constricting of my movement in ALL seasons. And I buy large, have them tailored and still hate them.

I’m not a traditionalist though. I just love horses & good riding with safe and appropriate equipment.

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There are so many tech fabric moisture wicking shirts these days. Many of them are collared and look conservative and classy.

I remember getting heat exhaustion every summer at shows as a kid because my trainer was traditional and wouldn’t let us show without coats. Now I’m an ammy who shows in the non FEI level jumpers and you better believe I only wear my jacket in classics :wink:

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I’m laughing because if this was hunters asking about a jacket it’s suddenly all about tradition and respect!!! Honestly, it takes 10 seconds to put the jacket on before you enter the ring and then about 5 to take it off after … yep I too believe big classes in jumperland deserve the tradition… then again I show at a facility where you always wear one no matter what :wink:

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