[QUOTE=stoicfish;6249304]
Well I personally think KaChing should be burnt at the stake becasue she wears really funny colored socks and goes to a different church than me - but I guess your reason can work too.[/QUOTE]
I’m sorry that I feel the need to support American bred horses and find the idea that the US does not or can not produce the same quality animal inane.
[QUOTE=hackinaround;6249312]
Was she named or in anyway? Its that maturity talking again. She sounds like a fine rider and competitor yet perhaps rather then heading to a forum to defend herself when no personal blame was laid she should have taken some professional propriety and walked in the other direction.
Your assuming that the way either told their side was 100% just the way it happened. The remarked difference was Sakura was vague and discreet about who they encountered and KaChing felt the need to bleat about who what and why when it does nothing to change the outcome.[/QUOTE]
But two things. KaChing only outted herself -why is that a breach of professionalism?
Secondly, if the story related is not factual and is being used as a antidote, what is the issue with correcting it?
Now I am not sure what the truth is, as with any post on this board that I don’t have first hand knowledge of. But wouldn’t it bug you if someone posted about an incident that had some facts wrong (like that she was not even a viable customer), and it was concerning you, regardless of whether it named you or not?
And why would it be wrong for you to correct that story?
PS I support NA breeders but I can not chastise someone for going to shop in a place that has way more animals and therefore a greater chance of finding “that horse”. Most of our Canadian team shops overseas…and until we have the greater numbers this will continue to be true.
[QUOTE=stoicfish;6249325]
But wouldn’t it bug you if someone posted about an incident that had some facts wrong (like that she was not even a viable customer), and it was concerning you, regardless of whether it named you or not?
And why would it be wrong for you to correct that story?
.[/QUOTE]
Personally no. If I was not named I’d let it be. Individual posts are subjective and if it did not negatively affect or implicate my person or business it would not be worth the he said she said.
Also I did not chastise her for shopping in Europe in anyway what I was not in favor of was her statement that I fully disagree with. “I definitely encourage people to buy in Europe as most breeders here just don’t have the quality of horses that even compares with the ones over there.”
This thread and, indeed, the business between the self-identified KaChing and ourselves some time ago have taken a very nearly unrecognizable cast.
A few facts before matters become totally distorted- the horse of interest was not being -and is not - offered for sale. She is a mare that we imported ourselves and whose bloodlines and talents are such that we do not wish to lose her in our breeding program.
We made her available in a competition partnership arrangement with the right partner. see http://www.sakurahillfarm.com/horses.php?HOID=53. KaChing initiated contact with us.This mare was the most suitable for her from among our horses and we were exploring such a partnership arrangement with her. ETs every other year in the course of the mare’s competitive career and every other year in the case of retirement were to be the counterpart to KaChing receiving a potential competition mount that she would have in her string at a lower price than she would have paid for full ownership. It was to be a partnership arrangement. We would not enter into such an arrangement without solid corroborated evidence that the horse would receive excellent care and training and that there was clear and easy communication between the parties.
End of story!
To be frank, I do not think that KaChing has burned any bridges, nor have we. The entire matter had never evolved far enough for the struts to have been built!
Similar to what we had wished KaChing, we wish the OP full success in her future undertakings, be they in North America or elsewhere.
Just adding to the OP that it costs MUCH more than $5000 US to import a horse. We imported a foal and it cost more like $10K from door to door. I would say that the OP would need a “full service” importer (more $$) since she would not be going over to fly back with the horse.
IMO, it IS easier to see more good horses in a shorter time, closer together, in Europe than the US, because there are a LOT of breeders concentrated in a smaller area. However, you can see a lot on video in US now that we have youtube, etc. We personally wanted to see the sire, meet the breeders, etc. and meet our filly in person before deciding.
[QUOTE=PineTreeFarm;6244953]
Perhaps your insisting on knowing who the trainer was caused the buyer to be unresponsive.
I certainly would not feel it’s any of your business to ask who my trainer is and would probably have politely told you I was no longer interested in the deal.
Disclosing a trainer name can cause lots of foolish drama. Especially because many of the US breeders aren’t particularly involved in competition in the H/J world and don’t know who the players are anyway.
.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you are not looking in the right places either!
In order to be knowledgeable about what is winning in order to produce horses that will be marketable, breeders have to be aware of what is going on in the show rings. And very often they inquire about trainers because they want to make the right match for both horse AND rider. Not only is this commendable from an ethical POV, but it is also good business… No good for their rep to have horses they produce performing dismally in the hands of an incompetent (who undoubtedly blames the piece of junk horse!). And, potential placement in the hands of an exceedingly good trainer might have a salutary effect on purchase price, from the buyer’s POV.
Jennifer
I don’t think KaChing has outed herself. I still have no idea who she is.
That was my thinking on the costs too. Plus, not being able to afford to actually go look at the horses is not a good thing. And I hope that buying a young colt due to it being cheaper to import is not the driving factor in choosing a prospect.
Most people who shop in Europe to get a good deal are shopping for 4-6 year olds who have been started under saddle and have mileage at the shows already. That is usually the age group where you would get the most bang for your buck due to training and showing costs being lower in Europe. And the people that typically are looking at younger horses are usually shopping for breeding stock.
let’s see—you cannot afford to buy a plane ticket to Europe but you can afford $8,000 just to ship a gelded 2 yr old colt to the States. How much are you thinking to spend for a 2 yr old gelding anyway? Whatever you spend it isn’t going to automatically be worth $8,000 more just because it came from Europe. It will just be a 2 yr old and probably just another ordinary horse–you can buy that here.
Recomendation
[QUOTE=xemilyx805;6243420]
Does anyone know any reputable breeders overseas? I’ve been looking into importing a nice colt, but I really don’t know any breeders over there.
I can’t pay to fly over to Europe and I don’t really know anyone who does very well, so I need a really reputable farm. I was really skeptical at first because I would need to trust a farm from just over the internet and the phone, but I’ve been told by friends who have gone that way that the reputable farms are completely trust worthy. A friend who bought from Benny DeRuiter Stables apparently got a horse that could not jump the height they said it would, so they actually paid to have it shipped back. I suppose they just really want to keep up their reputation.
I would really like a colt under 2 years old. That’s the cheapest to ship and does not need to be quarantined for CEM. Benny Deruiter doesn’t have any young horses right now, but I really need a good word before I consider buying from a farm.
Any advice about this? Anyone know any reputable breeders?
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I would buy a colt from here but they’re so expensive and from what I’ve seen I could get a colt with much better breeding for the same price over seas![/QUOTE]
You Should Look At LONG ACRES STUD
there stallion is competing dressage and has ridden at the young horse events in badminton
they produce stunning offspring with amazing blood
there offspring generally cosr about £3000 which you would have to convert.
[QUOTE=lachevaline;6250844]
I don’t think KaChing has outed herself. I still have no idea who she is.[/QUOTE]
Snort!! 
Everyone who has commented on this thread and/or sent me a message, I am really sorry that my laptop just recently crashed and I have not been online in a while. The horse search has been put on pause for a while but I have contact information from many of you and I cannot thank everyone enough who has given me good information.
I have not read all of the posts on this thread since my laptop died and I do not really have the time to, unfortunately. I will try to be online to check my inbox, so if anyone would like to say anything to me directly do not hesitate!
Again thank you all so much! (:
Once again, you are talking nonsense…:no:
You are 16 years old and your posts on this thread and previous threads make it abundantly clear that you are in no position to import a horse.
[QUOTE=xemilyx805;6266214]
Everyone who has commented on this thread and/or sent me a message, I am really sorry that my laptop just recently crashed and I have not been online in a while. The horse search has been put on pause for a while but I have contact information from many of you and I cannot thank everyone enough who has given me good information.
I have not read all of the posts on this thread since my laptop died and I do not really have the time to, unfortunately. I will try to be online to check my inbox, so if anyone would like to say anything to me directly do not hesitate!
Again thank you all so much! (:[/QUOTE]
Don’t you have ‘plenty’ of them (horses) at home 
?
http://www.quarterturns.org/home.html
and
[QUOTE=Curious.GEORGE1976;6267883]
Don’t you have ‘plenty’ of them (horses) at home ?
http://www.quarterturns.org/home.html
and
http://www.youtube.com/user/xemilyx805?gl=CO&hl=es-419
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbicDJFDbxg[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Curious.GEORGE1976;6267883]
Don’t you have ‘plenty’ of them (horses) at home ?
http://www.quarterturns.org/home.html
and
http://www.youtube.com/user/xemilyx805?gl=CO&hl=es-419
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbicDJFDbxg[/QUOTE]
LOL interesting…lol
[QUOTE=Nootka;6270712]
LOL interesting…lol[/QUOTE]
What’s more interesting to me is that “Curious” tracked down most of OPs recent threads, essentially cyberstalked her to find this info, and then posted it on the threads. “Curious” also posted this information on a TOTALLY unrelated poster’s thread.
Creep much?
[QUOTE=GingerJumper;6270927]
What’s more interesting to me is that “Curious” tracked down most of OPs recent threads, essentially cyberstalked her to find this info, and then posted it on the threads. “Curious” also posted this information on a TOTALLY unrelated poster’s thread.
Creep much?[/QUOTE]
Kids playing games
[QUOTE=GingerJumper;6270927]
What’s more interesting to me is that “Curious” tracked down most of OPs recent threads, essentially cyberstalked her to find this info, and then posted it on the threads. “Curious” also posted this information on a TOTALLY unrelated poster’s thread.
Creep much?[/QUOTE]
I can understand why someone could get the two young posters confused, they do sound much alike, although they are not the same person.
However, the fact that these are "curious george’s"only posts is a bit strange. A little creep factor there, for me as well…
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