The cookie is a troll. I don’t feed trolls.
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And you were here ahead of me! What MHM said.
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The cookie is indeed stuffed with something creamy, but it’s definitely not edible. She’s hereby invited to eat several more helpings of it, however.
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I appreciate McGurk’s post because I read that post over and over and over again wondering if I really read what I thought I was reading.
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Well, in the case of the cookie, I certainly do hope that Hell is hot enough, that the admitting physcian is Larry Nasser and that group exercise leaders are George Morris and Jimmy Williams.
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Thanks for the heads up. I’ve never posted on this thread (or several others of note) but OM’s attempt at being clever really got to me. OM shall now go unfed. 
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I am sorry for whatever life circumstances molded you into such a nasty human.
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Some of us have the oreo poster on ignore now, so don’t see the posts and thus do not respond.
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Oreo is on the ignore function for me and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Thus no response.
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As I was being sexually assaulted, that’s exactly the thought that was running through my mind – “sure, this is unpleasant now, but I just BET I can turn this into a nice little payday! SCORE!”
I know – don’t feed the troll. But couldn’t let that go past. Those two posters have vile opinions.
(Edited to reflect that opinions, rather than people, are vile).
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Yeah, but they take certain vows which is very different from general people who aren’t making any sorts of commitments to do or not do certain things.
Maggie did not train with the Fellers until Fall of 2017. She was 14 and mostly coached by the wife
We need to stop speculating on the detail of not only this case, but all cases. There are so many people who state what they assume are facts without any hard evidence backing up those statements.
Example, Maggie trained as much with Rich as she had done with Shelley. Although she did not move her horses up there until she was older, there are show records proving that she rode was showing with them when she was younger than 14. So the comment dismissing the complexity of the familys relationship and if rich/Shelley spent more time training is unwarranted and completely out of context given the complexities of grooming and sexual abuse.
Each of these awful situations that arise are so difficult to comprehend from not only the outside point of view, where all “knowledge” is just hearsay, but as well being directly in the circle of the situation as your trying to decipher what is happening real time. Can we all just please take a step back and redirect our energy from spreading misconceptions and channel that energy to trying to stop all sexual abuse/misconduct/grooming?
Please take a look and try to learn/understand more about how not only our sport is effected by misconduct, but also other sports. Gymnastics and the FBI dealing with the Nassar case are very prominent in the news right now. I encourage people to tune in and start to understand how difficult and complex these situations are. Carrie Kehring had done a podcast for plaidhorse on their family’s situation with Fellers and safesport. Everyone should go listen to that as well! She gives very unique insight in what it is like to deal with this situation.
I think we all need to take a step back and try to educate ourselves on safesport, on the damage that spreading misconceptions can have, on the prevalence of sexual misconduct today, and really try to make a safer environment for everyone.
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I’ve heard he’s got some skeletons in his closet as well. Just wait to see what happens there…
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That’s actually not a a factual statement. I know one of the Fellers grooms who groomed her horses at shows way before Maggie even moved all her horses to Oregon.
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I’ll tell you now Maggie isn’t the only one who has suffered at the hands of that ENTIRE family. Their day of reckoning will come.
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Thank you for sharing the Plaidhorse podcast. It’s very hard to understand the importance of and need for Safesport until you really need it. Though it’s not a perfect system, I am glad there are at least some stopgaps in place to protect victims.
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Thank you so much for this post HorseyGal,
Please everyone, let’s start the discussions about how to openly address these issues, rather than speculating on various situations. Please read the article on SafeSport in COTH http://read.uberflip.com/i/1410284-september-20-27-2021/89?, please listen to the podcast on Spotify - Episode 246 on the Plaidcast (discussion starts at the 15 minute mark), but most importantly, please visit www.weridetogether.today to learn more. Let’s stop speculating with our discussions, and instead guide our discussions with an educated, forward momentum to make our industry, healthier, safer, stronger and even better.
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Thank you for this post.
There is an article from 2016 in The Atlantic by Kayleigh Roberts that comes to mind when scrolling through this thread and seeing the evolution of it from the day it started until now. It’s called “The Psychology of Victim Blaming” and I strongly encourage people to take a minute and read through it. The next time you find yourself wondering what someone else did to bring on their “misfortune”, take a moment to consider the psychological attributions and biases that affect your judgement. Rather than blame the victim, try putting yourself in that person’s shoes and perhaps try a little empathy instead.
“In my experience, people blame victims so that they can continue to feel safe themselves.” -Barbara Gilin
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Exactly, and we see this in so many venues.
“But as a general rule, Americans have a hard time with the idea that bad things happen to good people.”
Holding victims responsible for their misfortune is partially a way to avoid admitting that something just as unthinkable could happen to you —even if you do everything “right.”
Despite some assertions in the article, we even see it around people who are victims of natural disasters, IME.
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