ROC USA

Great! I am glad the inspection went well for the Roc’s babies. I am looking forward to seeing the pictures! I will also definantly have someone handle my mare and foal. I would much rather watch.:slight_smile:

Roc seems to cross well with TB’s, hence why I picked him. (not to mention his looks and temperament!)

Thanks for all the updates! Keep em comin!

I will be in Kentucky for the IHF finals. Hope to see some of you there!

bumping this up…

…cause I have PICTURES!!! :cool:

Not making promises, I am not a pro, babies are way hard to photog & I have a delay on my camera to boot. :lol: Plus I was clueless as to how things worked while the 1st couple went so I apoligize for not having many pics of them. I got better about just clicking away later on.

To find the pics: go to my photobucket album link below & click on the album “2007-MBF Inspection”. I listed the babies by name in the order they went & the 1st pic has their name, stallion & DOB. I have the day sheet from there if you want any other info & I can PM it to you. :slight_smile:

Please let me know if it doesn’t work as my computer won’t let me log out & test it. :no:

Thanks! The pics are great! A couple of those babies were sooo cute! That gelding that won is adorable. Beautiful face! I keep looking at the mares and they all seem a lot more bulky to me than may mare. (but my mare could be a deer she is so petite!:winkgrin:)

I can’t wait!

Now maybe a dumb question, but why was that guy measuring the babies back with the crop? I would assume it has something to due with proportions on the baby? What is ideal?

Just an FYI some of those mares were surrogates so those weren’t the “real” moms.

The babies get pretty frisky & proud & there were quite a few kicking & rearing. Plus it’s probaly a lot of stimulation for a foal (new place, lots of people, other foals). They got whacked when they ran at the inspector or handlers & tried to kick at them (they have wicked aim! :lol:) when they were set loose for the movement phase. But sometimes they were just handling & doing things with them (running their hands over them, running the whip over them). Maybe it helped keep them pre-occupied so they could be judged? I do know they looked in their mouths so it helps if your baby is used to that (some didn’t like it).

Roc at the 100-day test

I saw RocUSA at the 100-day stallion test. Out of a lot of terrific horses, he was the one I would have taken home if I could only pick one. A beautiful type–very athletic, well-rounded horse, wonderful disposition, and gorgeous. His German staff rider was clearly in love with him and looking very wistful on the final day.

I saw his test score, it wasn’t great. I wondered why they scored him so low. He seems like such a willing horse! Couldn’t ever get any info on where he scored so low. That test seems very difficult for a young horse!

In regards to scores (and this goes for any scores)–they score what they see in front of them at that moment in time. Maybe Roc wasn’t in a great phase when he went? I don’t know–I don’t know much about him or when he went or what he was like then. I do know he’s an example of a stallion who scored “average” himself, but has gone on to be a nice producer. I have to wonder (and I am not pointing fingers or looking for specifics) how many stallions score “fabulous” and then go on to only produce mediocre at best? I am sure it happens.

He sure is a pretty stallion.

I think he is pretty too.:slight_smile:

For his offspring being at the oldest 6 I think this year, he has already had offspring win jumper championships and hunter futurity contenders, that in my eyes were fancier than most of the others! I am very impressed so far with his offspring.
One thing that I love is how sensible the babies are!

Giddy-up , nice photos. I have always liked Roc USA.

Genevieve

Oldenburg Farm 7-29

I attended the Oldenburg Farm Inspection yesterday. I always like to go to their events as it is probably the most beautiful horse facility in the Midwest. I always know many of the owners since Wisconsin is a very small horse state and I must admit several were my friends.

The first entry for the mares was a 3 y.o. ROC USA filly, Roc’s Paper Tiger. She was a beautiful bay with dapples, moved well, built well and very well behaved. The judge described her as “a perfect example of what we are looking for in our breeding program”. She scored a 108 and was Premium.

I was not able to stay for the fillies, but I believe that she was the only Roc USA at that inspection. I am not a photographer, but there were a lot of cameras there - so hopefully one of them will post a picture.

I was there too! I got pictures of the Roc mare (and many others). I’m working on getting them on my webshots page. I’ll post as soon as I do. :smiley:

Finally got them all up there!

Here’s the link: http://community.webshots.com/album/560084836VIXOBD?start=0

It was heaven for me looking at all those decked out horses. :smiley: The Roc USA mare is first in the order. She’s a real pretty dark bay. I tried to label them all correctly.

Anybody know the damline of the RocUSA mare?

I own his dam Fuse’e. Her mother Turn to Ivory was a hunter, but in the time before there were many records (not that it is much better now). Fuse’e is a large powerful chestnut much like Baloubet. I posted about her on the previous page.

There is not much more to say about the mare line, because not many TB lines are popular or easy to track in hunter/jumpers. The mare line also gets very old quickly, putting the mares back a time long before TB jumpers/hunters was a very serious sport here. After Fusee’s dam Turn to Ivory, it quickly goes to 1950’s and WW I mares because there are 14-18 years between moms and daughters.

The TB damsire breeding of Best Turn, Turn To and Nashua is top notch. Done to Turn died young after producing only 7 TB foals. His sire Best Turn was sire of Hand in Glove, a jumper, who competed in the USA and then bred in France at the famous Brullemail Stud, where Laudanum and Alme also stood. Crossed with Alme, this breeding produced Hoggar Mail that I think jumps a lot like a hunter, but with very big scope. Nashua was also damsire to Mr. Prospector, who has basically shaped the KY Derby for the last 10 years. Turn To was known as a good conformation and ruggedness producing stallion. He has had a resurgence in pedigrees lately in racing.

http://www.brullemail.com/english/etalons/hand_glove/hand_glove_frame_set.htm
http://www.brullemail.com/english/etalons/hand_glove/hand_glove_frame_set.htm

I own his dam Fuse’e. Her mother Turn to Ivory was a hunter, but in the time before there were many records (not that it is much better now). Fuse’e is a large powerful chestnut much like Baloubet. I posted about her on the previous page.

There is not much more to say about the mare line, because not many TB lines are popular or easy to track in hunter/jumpers. The mare line also gets very old quickly, putting the mares back a time long before TB jumpers/hunters was a very serious sport here. After Fusee’s dam Turn to Ivory, it quickly goes to 1950’s and WW I mares because there are 14-18 years between moms and daughters.

The TB damsire breeding of Best Turn, Turn To and Nashua is top notch. Done to Turn died young after producing only 7 TB foals. His sire Best Turn was sire of Hand in Glove, a jumper, who competed in the USA and then bred in France at the famous Brullemail Stud, where Laudanum and Alme also stood. Crossed with Alme, this breeding produced Hoggar Mail that I think jumps a lot like a hunter, but with very big scope. Nashua was also damsire to Mr. Prospector, who has basically shaped the KY Derby for the last 10 years. Turn To was known as a good conformation and ruggedness producing stallion. He has had a resurgence in pedigrees lately in racing.

http://www.brullemail.com/english/etalons/hand_glove/hand_glove_frame_set.htm
http://www.brullemail.com/english/etalons/hand_glove/hand_glove_frame_set.htm

Just some more updated information. I went to the IHF Kentucky finals and saw some more Roc USA babies. Nancy showed a really nice yearling filly, that I thought was a great mover. I also heard that 1 or 2 of his offspring showed in the jumper finals at this show and place very well. I know they were double clean, just not as fast as the winner. There were a couple hunters in the IHF finals that were great movers and fantastic jumpers. I still continue to be impressed by this stallion, we with see what I get!

Make sure to post if you have any more pictures. I will post one of a 3yr old filly by Roc USA that was in my friends horses division…

Wow, that’s a beautiful filly!:yes: Glad he was so well represented.

That’s Roulette 22, she’s with the same barn/trainer where we keep our horses (including a 2 yr. old Roc baby). She is lovely. :yes: There are at least 12+ Roc offspring that live there ranging from weanlings to 4 years old, so if someone wanted to see a lot of them in one place, a trip to northern Michigan might be in order. :slight_smile:

If you go to www.shawnmcmillenphoto.photoreflect.com and then look at the photos from the Kentucky National you can see many more pictures of Rou and some other Roc offspring, all horses are listed by number and name. 0005 Roulette 22, 0037 Roc’s Anne, 0082 Roc Holiday are three that I know of.

Cool thanks! Roc Holiday, that was the cute yearling I saw. I can’t believe how quiet she was! She was almost falling asleep in the IHF class.