Because this organization requires a bit.
Western dressage did not make-up all new directives. You are allowed to share some directives with this organization that you do not agree with, all while starting your own organization that loves it all done with no bit.
Yeah…ok. And this is the orgnization that requires a loose noseband too…
Arguing for the sake of arguing is not productive. Redirect that energy and hold a bitless horse show.
So you clearly do not like anything about this organization so why are you fighting so hard to participate with them?
Start your own organization. I have no doubt people will enjoy it. Neck rope dressage will be the next fun thing, just like western dressage.
I’m surprised that, being so derisive of this organization, you keen to be part of it.
Jinx!
We’re talking about bitless bridles. The question of contact is a totally different one, and would probably negate the desire to ride in a bitless bridle if some weight limitations were placed on what “contact” means.
That said, horses are horses, and heavy will happen. Will it be OK for a bitless bridle rider to have overly tight straps, but not for the standard bit rider? Why?
No, it raises the question. Begging the question is entirely different.
“Fighting so hard to participate???” Can we say jumping to conclusions? I am merely pointing out the non-sequiturs of the rules and how the rules are applied.
I am merely pointing out the capriciousness of the applications of the rules…can we say blue tongue…when the DR-101 calls for
As a result, it makes the horse calm, supple, loose and flexible, but also confident, attentive and keen, thus achieving perfect understanding with the rider.
and
The horse thus gives the impression of doing, of its own accord, what is required. Confident and attentive, submitting generously to the control of the rider,
I spent some years of a 32-year career dealing with codes and standards…contact is not defined in the dressage rulebook…eg., the code and standard for the competition of dressage.
People’s cruelty and ignorance re: the welfare of the horses are not USEF’s fault.
Tomato…tomahtoe…so you are now COTH linguistics expert? My excuse is I are an engineer…a profession known to have difficulty with the English language
According to the all-knowing google, or bing.…
beg the question
definition
I did not assign blame to the USEF for what riders do to their horses…I DO expect them to enforce the rules that they have made up
They are…on the whole bit topic.
If you make your own organization you can make your own rules.
I honestly do not get it. The bitless in dressage thing has been a bone for some for so many years. How can they not see how happy the Western Dressage people are, and how them doing so well has brought in all kinds of riders who never would have thought to do Western Dressage? Why continue to try to shove your square peg into the round hole and not just do what Western Dressage did?
You (general) clearly hate this governing body anyway, so why try to make them want to deal with you?
That’s not what I said. I said that HER mare wouldn’t because she’d been ridden with a bit.
I read this pretty clearly as you stating that a horse who had never been trained with a bit won’t respond to the aids described? Which reads to me that you believe no horse will respond correctly to those aids if they’ve never had a bit in their mouth.
I have no particular dog in this fight, I ride with a bit, I ride bitless, I’ve given up showing dressage for reasons outlined extensively in the thread about why shows are dying. However, I do think it’s pretty stupid for an organization of what is very much a shrinking sport to vehemently oppose something that would encourage more participation.
News to me. They couldn’t ignore Parra, but we will see if other heads roll and the “system” changes
Exactly!!! But to answer your question just look at how I have been pilloried for challenging some sacred (now sacred) cows of dressage
EDITED to change scared cows to sacred cows…
Well isn’t that a funny quote job. I said they are on the bit rule.
Who exactly is scared cow of dressage?
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