Who makes these? I see them places, but googling yields little results.
PS of Sweden uses carabineers on their running martingales.
Are you ou talking about a market harbourer or the other name is a German Martingale.
No no. Itās a running martingale. But instead of round rings that require you to disconnect the reins, the ends are small carabiners so you can just clip them on. @ghst13 Iāll look at ps of Sweden. Thanks!
If this is what you want, itās pretty easy to simply cut the stitching on ANY martingale and replace the rings. Iāve done it myself (as I like bigger rings than some martingales come with), with a hand sewing awl. Or, any leather worker can do it for you at minimal cost.
CWD makes one - the rings look like regular circular rings, but they clip on.
ETA - just found one by Prestige as well. When you Google, try ārunning martingale with clip ringsā.
Hereās a link to the picture I found. I feel like the irregular shape and the latch in the carabiner could catch on the rein, but Iāve never used this version, so thatās just a guess on my part.
Definitely PS of sweden. Unfortunately, they donāt stay behind the keepers very well.
If you are looking for convenience reasons I use a clip at the end were the martingale attaches to my breastplate, you have to get used to which way to flip the martingale so it stays straight but works well otherwise, easier than threading reins thru on a a tall horse and I can pull the reins over to lead etcā¦
In addition, it looks like everywhere is sold out - perhaps thereās a reason for thatā¦
I only use the running when sheās particularly sassy, so every third ride or so. I donāt use it 100% of the time, because she doesnāt need it 66% of the time. Maresā¦
Just cut off the existing solid rings with bolt cutters, and put regular or circle carabiners on the leather loops. Or book rings.
They do make their own keepers that are sized to interact with the clips. But itās annoying having to order and use theirs. I have two sets of reins with their own keepers that are also long enough for the carabiners, but the standard rubber ones that you can add to any reins arenāt big enough. All that said, I love mine, but I have all my reins set up to be compatible.
I wonder if theyāre sold out due to a redesign? Seems like a smaller carabiner would solve the issue.
The EU sure has them in stock
CWD did make them, but stopped because they were breaking. I was told by a CWD rep that theyāre in the process of finding a new supplier.
I was thinking the same thing. Have you tried this? I might want to test this. If you have tried this, do the linked clips close pretty securely?
Looking for one that can clip to a breastplate. Iām starting to think this isnāt a good design, hence why not everyone makes them and theyāre kind of hard to find.
Maybe Iām wrong.
IDK, not a lot of womenās breeches makers put TWO front pockets on them still. Sometimes manufacturers just miss the mark, and Lord knows equestrians are all about their ātradition,ā so they probably just donāt think thereās a big market.
@ParadoxFarm no Iāve never done it.
CWD and Devoucoux both had this feature for a while. I remember liking it at first especially in theory, but disliking it in practice.
While more convenient, I found they kept breaking as the carabiner is structurally not as āsoundā as a closed ring is, and would break off at the āapexā where reins often went through. They also would slide over the keepers, as mentioned, and the other issue was, they were bigger ā and could get caught in things the way I never had closed rings get snared.
I like carabiners built into girths even less. Have seen this be a significant safety issue many times.