Sad situations that are going to be happening too much...

[BaroquePony]

Posted by horselips:

So Who the f*ck died and made you the poster that “said it all PLUS a fudge brownie”??
You think you are the “be-all, end-all” to PP’s plight?? (uh-…YAH! look up the word ‘plight’)

You can’t even be bothered to get your spelling, much less grammar correct: (It’s THEIR, not “there”).
And BTW - apostrophes are not “optional”, when using a contraction.

This thread has too many idiots posting already; really ~ don’t jump in into the fool-pool. :rolleyes:

Horselips, this is way out of line :sigh:

[AppJumpr08]

[QUOTE=horselips;5156488]
[B]Excuse my language,

But:

I think it’s time you all back the F*CK off of PP!!

Look! I can give you LOTS of diversion on my own failings!

May I divert you with other horribleness??

[/B][/QUOTE]

JoZ x 2.

[Eye_in_the_Sky]

[QUOTE=Tamara in TN;5156516]
.223’s with Leupold scopes mostly.

Tamara in TN[/QUOTE]

ROFLMAO! - wait, that’s sad, but I think I’d likely have to do the same since some moron wrote a law worthy of the Queen of Hearts!

[Eye_in_the_Sky]

horselips is apparently not reading for comprehension, because if they were, they would see that the one they are snarking about is on PP’s side - and it appears that is horselips’ side as well.

Or did I misunderstand horselips, and think wrongly that they were supporting PP??

[Tamara_in_TN]

[QUOTE=Eye in the Sky;5156525]
ROFLMAO! - wait, that’s sad, but I think I’d likely have to do the same since some moron wrote a law worthy of the Queen of Hearts![/QUOTE]

I’m going to bed now or I’d hunt for it tonight, but I think it had to do with a typical hoarder years ago who said “no these are all strays,I just feed them twice a day, but they are not mine”

it has been the law as long as I can remember…one reason we feed plenty at each meal but never leave out self feeders…if you gotta shoot them anyway, no need to bait them as well…that’s not exactly fair

Tamara in TN

[Lucinda]

[QUOTE=horselips;5156488]

This thread has too many idiots posting already; really ~ don’t jump in into the fool-pool. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

This thread also has far too many people with bad attitudes and “Im right and the rest of you jokers are wrong” posters.

[SuperSTB]

[QUOTE=snkstacres;5156359]
I am not sure I dare post anything requarding this thread at all but…if I were PP, they dam well better open courts at night.

Not a single horse there was of seizable condition or even close to it.

In Maine, not having a three sided shelter is cause for a cruelty charge and that is what PP was charged for. Loose dogs, give me a dam break.

A year long investigation, thats because it took them that long to find her gone long enough to get the horses. This is a personal issue with the neighbors.

Now PP, if you are reading this, AC has laws it must follow as well. The 12 hour posting is AGAINST THE LAW. They are required to post a 72 hour notice before considering an animal abandoned. And, if they found the animals without water, not food, water, they are supposed to water them in that 72 hour period. NOT FEED them.

Things may not be perfect at PP;s house, they may not be the standards we would choose, but…lets be realistic. There were not nearly enough grounds to seize those animals, just nasty neighbors. There is not a single experienced horse person on this board that could say those horses are thin, nor say they have gone two weeks without food or water. Notice how clean the dam feed bag was. Not bad for a mud pit. If those horses were hungry, that fence wouldnt hold them.
As well, for someone elses comment about a stallion being kept in such fencing. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm so why is it that there arent a lot of babies then???

There are two sides to this story I am sure. But one of them is obvious. And yes, I was an Animal Inspections Officer for 10 years. Had I left a herd of horses or any animals without water after posting property, then I in turn could be sited for cruelty.

2 cats were taken, did they leave the rest or…were there more??? Its not like this lady is a hoarder or something.[/QUOTE]

Agreed with most except if she had received a notice recently before she left and didn’t address the AC.

People just assume that the ACO is going by the book…

[SuperSTB]

Quicky question… does shelter have to be provided year round? In MA you had to provide shelter from something like November through April or something like that.

Edit to add that I found this (very open to interpretation):

4. Humanely clean conditions. Minimum standards of sanitation necessary to provide humanely clean conditions for both indoor and outdoor enclosures shall include periodic cleanings to remove excretions and other waste materials, dirt and trash to minimize health hazards.
   [ 1987, c. 383, §3 (NEW) .]
5. Livestock. Livestock must be provided with shelter suitable for the health of the animal. Livestock must have access to a constructed or natural shelter that is large enough to accommodate all livestock comfortably at one time. The shelter should be well drained and protect the livestock from direct sun, rain, wind and other inclement weather. Notwithstanding this subsection, shelter for equines must be provided in accordance with subsection 2, paragraph B, subparagraph (1). For purposes of this subsection, “livestock” includes large game as defined in section 1341, subsection 5 kept at a licensed commercial large game shooting area as defined in section 1341, subsection 1.
   [ 1999, c. 765, §10 (AMD) .]

[MistyBlue]

Superstb, shelter in ME (and much of New England) needs to be provided for winter only. :yes:

Horselips is someone’s alter most likely, low post count and joined a long time ago. Admits so in the profile more or less, stating occupation is to piss people off and then has a little diatribe there about how they detest people.
And usually shows up just to practice their swearing.
Alters are not always there for humor, this one certainly isn;t funny.

[Sannois]

Anyone ever hear from PP?

This whole thing seems crazy, This thread is nutszy long. And I started reading on the 8th, and came back today and still cant seem to find anything.
I saw the horses, Looked ok to me.
IT seems a crime that know nothing neighbors would do this, Where is PP.
What a scary thing to have happen. :no::eek:

[Fairview_Horse_Cente]

Cool, nice to know I own a few foxes, a raccoon or two occasionally, possibly a bear, and definitely a Bald Eagle. <Can I sell him on ebay?> :lol:

Sorry, not shooting the wild kitties.

[barnbum81]

SOOOOO OVER THIS THREAD!!! just sayin’

[snkstacres]

The likes of Horselips does not bother me in the least. Not someone who knows me at all I am afraid.

Even if this seizure was warranted, AC botched it. Yup, has happened many times before, especially if emotions take over. I am emotional.

I believe the heart and soul has been torn from PP. Imagine coming home to this. Its easy to get on the bandwagon but I waited, I waited and I did some homework.

PP was a police officer. Was. She now works in security (or did) This takes care of that so…now that she is down, we kick her.

There are a few posters here who dont dare post for fear of retribution but I will take the strikes. AC will now have to go there and take her old dog who was boarded, they will have to take her kitties.

For lack of funds, lack of knowledge and because you can bet a lot of money went into this, PP will likely not get her friends back.

So, the whole point of this thread, it doesnt even have one anymore.

PP, I am sorry, I am truly truly sorry that this has happened to you. When we deal with someone who is truly cruel, we have a much harder time because people can be so ugly and cruel people are ugly. It is all around them. Not so in this case, there is no cruelty. Could things have been better, yes. But this, NO.

I am heartbroken, rescue is not just about animals, its about people. The job makes it so hard to even like people often but…I meet as many good ones as bad.

[JanM]

I think the 72 hour law about feeding strays and they become yours law is done to address the problems of hoarders or negligent owners in places (on Detroit Animal Cops and Miami also) where the person has to admit they are the owner even of neglected or abused animals that are on their property and obviously theirs. In some places unless the person admits ownership they can’t be prosecuted. Sorry that sentence went forever, but I am apparently punctuation challenged today (more than usual).

[Moderator_1]

We removed the recent inappropriate posts by horselips (and responses that quoted them), and banned her, and a couple of apparent alter accounts, one of which ironically was the OP on several of the threads on this topic.

Thank,
Mod 1

[JSwan]

@Moderator 1;5156743

one of which ironically was the OP on several of the threads on this topic.

:no: That speaks volumes.

[Nojacketrequired]

A couple of days ago,there was a link to an “update” put out by the local news that PP still hadn’t come home. I went to that link and pointed out that the owner had been home for at LEAST 2 days and where did they GET these “updates” from, the neighbours?

Does anyone have a link to that “update” because I can’t find it anymore.

Thanks, NJR

[shea_smom]

Mod 1, you rock.
Ok, If PP can’t get her animals back and they will come and take her others, I am now officially switching into “How can we help her animals?” mode.
What a damn mess.

[BaroquePony]

Posted by Mod 1:

one of which ironically was the OP on several of the threads on this topic.

That does not surprise me :yes: this might be the “OMG !! P…P…” poster …

[Joanne]

[QUOTE=Nojacketrequired;5156750]
A couple of days ago,there was a link to an “update” put out by the local news that PP still hadn’t come home. I went to that link and pointed out that the owner had been home for at LEAST 2 days and where did they GET these “updates” from, the neighbours?

Does anyone have a link to that “update” because I can’t find it anymore.

Thanks, NJR[/QUOTE]

http://www.wabi.tv/news/14842/update-on-dedham-animal-abuse