Very nice and very true post!!!
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It’s ok. Someone sent me your name and I will be reaching out privately. Let me rephrase: someone has sent me a few of your names.
Your obsession with me as I have also learned is sick. I had no idea this went so deep.
Are you threatening me? Cause it sounds like you’re threatening me. Maybe I’m misreading, perhaps you can clarify?
This sounds fascinating! As I have no clue who you are :lol: I’m sure whoever receives your missive will be quite put out. Or entertained.
Not a threat. Just need a name and address so I can have a letter sent because you made a statement that was seen by me and apparently many more as accusatory.
As my ex husband is in a position to work with children as am I, this is a problem.
You seem to think this is some big joke and it’s not. You are a bitter, angry person and the amount of people I have heard from since this thread started blows my mind.
unfortunately while I have much better things to do today, I need to address this and so I’m doing it legally.
You can choose to carry-on however you would like; however, I don’t think it’s having the effect you want it to.
Recapping, you made a post. I responded to it with a personal story. You responded to that by insinuating that my ex-husband was capable of sexual assault on children. I addressed it, and you doubled and tripled and quadrupled and quintupled down, even resorted to multiple insults and generally acted like a two-year-old.
Regardless, you’ve been asked to stop and you haven’t. You also haven’t rescinded your words. It’s out of my hands at this point. While you are going to deny that you have any ability to be traced, my identity on this website is not hidden. While you apparently believe no one knows who you are, if your last updated address is correct, you will be receiving a letter and then we know you will stop.
It’s unfortunate that you chose to continue this And simply didn’t just delete your post. We all make choices, I suppose.
This won’t be coming from me. It will be coming from a lawyer. I don’t take your fascination as anything but a sick and twisted position.
I’m sure you and your ex husband are very well known and well regarded.
But I don’t know who either of you are.
Since you obviously believe you have a stalker, perhaps you are seeing trouble where none exists. I’m sorry you are having a difficult time with someone else, but really you’re way far of field in this instance.
Can’t be traced…um, people who know me know me. I don’t know you, and honestly you are disturbing me since it seems like you have a lot going on right now and are apparently trying to track down my address. Super creepy dude, even though I again have no clue who you are.
Maybe think about these choices you’re making because they’re pretty out there.
I’m sorry you are having so many problems with people. I’m unclear what on this thread you think would warrant a letter from an attorney, but maybe your attorney can help you sort that out.
Saving.
Saving.
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I do understand-- I pay for unlimited data for my cell for this reason. And I’m fine with DVD training or whatever. But I have yet to see a post from anyone who has not been able to find an alternative way to complete the training so I wonder how many are actually really affected.
We’ve removed the tangent that developed out of a misunderstanding of a post. Do not address the issue further on this thread.
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I agree. I have no objection to the SS training, I thought it was interesting. I learned a few things from it.
I don’t think anybody is saying that it is flat-out impossible to complete. People are saying that for some of the membership, it is complicated and inconvenient to complete, due to the method. And that it’s too bad USEF made something mandatory without offering alternative methods for people in more rural areas.
But voicing this complaint is obviously ridiculously offensive to some people here. As trubandloki noted it’s hard to figure why that is.
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I don’t understand the 'oh, I don’t mean me, I mean the poor little people who don’t have internet elsewhere!"
You were able to do it at work. There’s one option. The point is, you can drop all this money on shows, sometimes many per year, but somehow never ever find yourself in a location with internet where you can watch the training.
SafeSport doesn’t have offline training. This is the situation as it stands. Multiple people have been told this. Another breed association did somehow manage to get a SafeSport trainer to lead a very limited training in person. I don’t see why a GMO couldn’t set up something similar - a communal location with wifi, have members donate their personal computers for a few hours, have an open day when people can complete the training. However, that also isn’t acceptable to the people whining on here, because what they actually want is for the training to be delivered to them in a totally unverifiable fashion because that is what is convenient for them. If you want to take a professional licensure exam, they don’t send it to you to take it unsupervised, you have to find your way to a proctored testing center on their time and take the exam. This isn’t really any different, in fact it’s much more convenient because you CAN do it online, and that still isn’t satisfactory. They could have made everyone attend in person, but they didn’t. Now everyone says they should have done it that way.
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OK, we get it - you don’t understand how broadband works, and you don’t understand that everyone’s life is not just like yours. Great. Open your mind, and realize that not everyone lives in suburbia America like you do.
I am one of those who does not have broadband, does not have cell service at home. Going to a show is irrelevant - I can haul in to several shows within an hour’s drive - none of them have bandwidth for this either. Go back and do some research - SS did not invest in the technology that other on-line video companies HAVE done, to compress the video and make it more accessible. That is a VERY EASY solution, that they are just not interested in. Another VERY EASY solution is to send out a writeable DVD or flash drive, and allow people to do the training that way.
Yes, I can post on COTH - that takes very little bandwidth. I can even do FB, I just have to use a browser that cuts out the GIFS and the videos, easy enough to do. I can even watch compressed videos, including some streaming services - but SS is not compressed. Some of my friends can’t even do that much, because internet here is VERY expensive. I pay more for this slow internet then most of you pay for phone, internet, and cable TV. Not everyone in my community can afford that - including horse people.
I don’t have a job that allows me to get on the internet and watch videos - I am in front of an audience all day long. I have several friends who live in my rural area, and NONE of them have access to broadband that can drive this uncompressed video. None of them have jobs with access to high speed internet either. That is reality in rural areas. I know others in OTHER rural communities with the same limitations. It is very real.
I find it interesting that HORSE people can’t understand that some HORSE people live in the country. We have our horses at home. Some of us run cattle or other livestock as well.
USDF does not ALLOW our members to do a group training, even if we COULD find a facility that has that level of internet that is available for free. Don’t suggest a library - my county libraries are NOT open at night or weekends, and limit people to 30 minutes of internet access. The next county over will not allow us to use their facility because we are not county residents - we’ve checked with them for other trainings, and been turned down.
I highly suggest, before you put on your mean girl hat, you do some genuine research on the lack of internet access in our country. It is a genuine problem. I find it very interesting that people are bullies on this very topic. Isn’t SS about bullying and harrassment? Look in the mirror whitenoise. You seem to have joined this forum JUST for this topic - and jumped right in to bully mode. Maybe you need to take SS and pay attention to the part about bullying.
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To add to MysticOakRanch’s post above.
You do not have to be out in the middle no where.
No one would consider where I live out there.
My road is a short road that goes between two major roads. There are not many houses on it (less than five). There is everything you can imagine available on both those major roads but no one would run anything down this short road with almost no houses since it unlikely there will be any increase in the number of houses any time.
When we asked the service providers they say they will run what needs to be run if we pay for it and they offer up a contract that is a mid five figure amount to have that done. Um. No thanks.
Having the finances to go to one or two rates shows per year does not mean I can swing paying for internet to be run down the street.
Common sense tells me that if this is the case where I live then there are other people out there who can not get internet too.
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I hope that all of you are using this as an opportunity to advocate for better broadband for everyone. The truth is that the issues with broadband are not limited to the SafeSport training. They’re in play for online entries, for horse sales, for all kinds of things. One of the biggest issues with slow bandwidth in rural areas is actually that livestock auctions are now frequently online, and if your network is not fast, you are unable to bid on the animal currently up for auction - a video even a minute behind is just not functional. 4-H does similar training for its volunteers. Our kids are trying to do college and other advanced training with online resources… and even when a school might have “broadband” that would suit a household, they have hundreds of kids on at a single time, kids who don’t have broadband at home. There are public meetings, videoconferences, and other seminar trainings where you need to be interacting with the others in the call in real time.
I live this and have lived this for years.
Honestly, if this is the first time you’ve encountered the issue, consider yourself deeply fortunate that it’s only for an activity that you have to do once a year from any time and place of your choosing. Do what you can to help your friends come to a place where you can all get the broadband you need to complete the training. (If the live training doesn’t work you can still rent a conference room with internet and have everyone come and do it together.) And keep working to get broadband as a utility accessible to everyone.
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Hearsay!
This is hugely true - the Digital Divide affects kids, adults, everyone! And yes, I personally do try to bring it up all the time because, as we see on this thread, people are SO unaware of it. Kids without access to good internet lose out on educational opportunities, job opportunities, college opportunities. Adults lose out on business opportunities. SS is just one small part of the issue. As I’ve stated over and over and over on this thread - do some research on the Digital Divide and realize it is VERY real in this country.
Interestingly, in many other less developed countries, they have better universal cell coverage and internet access - because they aren’t completely profit motivated. Here in the US, where profit drives all decisions, those in less “profitable” areas don’t have service.
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