So somebody needs to start a side black market business. The USEF member that doesn’t have internet access or time, provides their USEF member ID and sign-on. For a fee the entreprenure will take the Safe Sport training under that ID and satify the training requirement for the accessless person. Like cheating in school where you pay the smart kid to write your paper.
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I find it interesting that someone can say something that IS offensive to someone, then get angry when they take it that way. Why not just apologize and say “I didn’t MEAN it that way” instead of saying “you are wrong, get over it”… So now we are going to have a further discussion on whether it is offensive or not - which just isn’t useful. It WAS offensive - if someone was offended, then guess what? It was offensive.
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Brilliant:encouragement::love-struck:- except how will the poor, internet access-less person let me know? ( oh wait- they post on COTH 100,000 times but can’t get to the internet…) :rolleyes:
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It appears that we’ve gotten into some misunderstandings and other snarky posting back and forth. Let’s dial down the animus before continuing the discussion.
Thanks,
Mod 1
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It has been explained multiple times that it takes a different amount of bandwith to view a video, and substantially more to participate in an INTERACTIVE online course including videos, than it does to access and participate on social media websites. If you have a poor connection, VIDEOS DO NOT PLAY. THEY DO NOT OPEN.
I am personally very aware of this because at our summer house in northern Michigan, we have HughesNet. While there, I can post on Facebook or COTH as much as I like, although, both run slower. I cannot watch a video on my laptop while connected to HN, ever. A video embedded into FB will not open or play. It just won’t. The COTH forums open fairly easily with patience. But the linked magazine articles at the home page of COTH, for example, can take up to five minutes to open and if someone embeds a video into an article or post, it won’t play. As I said.
A very interactive site like Safesport will not even open. You just get a blank, white screen. I was there when the news of the training was launched and I couldn’t take it there, in that house, when I wanted to. I didn’t worry about it much because I knew when summer was over I would be able to open it, here at home in the Phoenix metro area with cable Internet. And so, when I got back in September, I took it. If I lived in that house year 'round, however, I would have found a way to take it in the ways others have suggested: by going to another location for the 1.5 hours. Or by hooking my computer to the phone hotspot with the phone switched on LTE. I could have gone to a relative’s house and logged in on their wifi. It’s not impossible to get it done, but it’s not convenient to be unable to take it at home. I’m not a very tech savvy person but I could have figured something out. I have no objection to the training.
But seriously. Clinging over and again to the concept that posting here on COTH versus taking an online training with interactive videos are equivalent-- even after it’s been explained multiple times that the bandwidth requirement is not the same-- and being funny about insulting people who need to head out of the house to solve it another way, is not “brilliant”.
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I know a trainer that already does this. She charges $250 as she already has her clients USEF number and password. One of her clients told me this, however she did her own training.
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Wow this thread really opened my eyes about some things…
Seems to me that’s your line to yourself. It’s unfortunate that you simply cannot take accountability for what you said.
It was nasty, uncalled for, and inexplicable. But apparently that’s how you roll.
Personally, if I made a statement to someone that was super nasty and very pointed, I would apologize and correct it. But we are not the same kind of person, are we. Information is never a bad thing.
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Appreciate your attempt to mediate…
And no, my daughter went to slumber parties.
Thanks for trying, but I think she’s made her point crystal clear. Unfortunately.
Seems to me that you believe
@Moderator 1’s request doesn’t apply to you.
I’m sorry you feel that way too because your misunderstanding of something and then hanging on to your wrongness like a dog with a bone says a lot about your character.
There are people on here whining about limited bandwidth/internet access who frequently UPLOAD videos online. If you can upload one, you can watch one. Upload is usually much slower than download, especially on satellite. Despite the lengthy post that was the woman version of mansplaining, most people fully understand how internet bandwidth works.
Of course that’s ignoring the privilege involved in being able to own a second home, apparently somewhere completely incommunicado, where you reside for months of the year. And have a phone with LTE access in a place where there is no internet. Logically, you would use the hotspot if you needed to. Except if you didn’t want to - which you didn’t.
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Brilliant was pertaining her idea- posted partially in jest. :rolleyes: But- ok- get all snippy.
I stand by my statement in prior posts if you have the ability to make it to rated horse shows, you have the ability to make it somewhere with the bandwidth to take the training.
I have been in correspondence with SafeSport- as another poster mentioned- they do not have non-online available but are want to know how to make it better.
It is a hard sell that people who show rated shows (what- $800-$1000 a pop if you are living in a remote area that just doesn’t have bandwidth, have to ship, hotel, etc) just can’t make it somewhere to take the training. Shrug.
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I’m the one who made the request to the moderators to address you and the issue.
Do we know each other in real life, ladyj?
It is the right thing to do when you make a comment that basically accuses someone’s family member of being capable of sexual assaulting his daugter’s friends that when the someone calls you out to address it, you fix it. In your world, apparently, you are so without introspection or empathy that for whatever reason you refuse to fix it. Your insistence on being right, or there even being a black and white right or wrong here, is concerning. And you just keep going and going and going. When you are aware that your words are extremely offensive (and in your opinion can be misconstrued) yet you refuse to pointedly clarify and simply dig deeper in your ridiculous insults (dog with a bone? Are you getting this crap from a middle schooler’s manual?), it becomes clear that you need professional help.
We have never had words on here but I wonder if we have in real life.
Should you wish to continue this harassment by continuing to attempt to malign my character and that of my ex-husband, please do it using your real name and to my private messages. Otherwise I would ask that you take your nastiness elsewhere, and certainly not on a Safe Sport thread, given the irony.
I have many real life friends on this thread who know me and know my ex husband by name and in person. COTH has rules about accusations. You’re pushing the boundary here. Should you wish to continue please use your real name so I can address this properly.
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Is it impossible for you to understand that he doesn’t speak only for himself but for others who do not have a second home and perhaps live in an extremely rural area (likely less costly) and really do not have the capability to do this easily?
I live in a non rural area and still had to complete this at a large institution (work) with better connection.
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What confuses me about this thread is the desire of people to do what the thing they are saying is great is against, which is pouncing on people and basically being mean to them.
It has been pointed out in more than one thread that some people do not have easy access to internet that allows them to watch these videos as they are.
So what if they own a horse and to you that means they should be able to tackle something like this. So what if to you the whole bandwidth thing is easy to understand so anyone who does not understand it is stupid (I personally appreciated the explanation and I do not care if things are explained to me by a man or a woman).
Why not accept that there is an issue and instead of pouncing on people for bringing it up, help add to the idea of how to get it fixed, and saying ‘go to Starbucks’ is not getting it fixed.
Almost no one here is saying to toss the baby out with the bath water (toss out safe sport in case that was not clear).
They just want others to be aware of a problem with the format.
I do not get the reason why this point requires so much fighting.
On the tangent topic, @ladyj79 I usually agree with your posts but I read your post the same way it is being taken by others. You now say that is not how it was intended, which I will take at face value. I am just pointing out that someone else (me) read it the same way and I have no dog in that fight.
(It has been just about a year that I have been able to get internet at my house and with my very limited data plan on my phone I would not have been able to watch videos on it. As it is now my internet is slow and even looking at this forum at home is painful, I can not imagine trying to watch a video. Thankfully I do not do any rated shows anymore so it is not an issue for me. If I had to I guess I would go to a friend’s house and hog their internet or do it at work where I access the forum.)
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@right horse at the right time your desire to interpret things in the worst possible way and to argue for that exclusive interpretation says more about you than me.
I feel sorry for you if this is a regular issue for you.
As for mediation, you’re fighting a straw man of your own construct, so keep on keeping on if that’s how you want to spend your day.
Yes, as I pointed out in another thread. It IS Impossible for some people to believe that anyone would consider someone else.
Because we don’t do empathy anymore in trumps America. It’s all just me me. And if everyone else’s experience isn’t like just yours it’s their own fault.
I made it very clear that I was not worried about taking the training because I had a place I could eventually take it. I was actually speaking up on behalf of people who perhaps live in a similar locale to our summer farm, year round. And a 1.5 hour training on the hotspot is a huge data suck on most people’s monthly plan. Avoiding that if at all possible is just common sense.
Let’s just chalk it up it up to womanunderstanding.
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You need help that only a professional can give you.
If you are going to continue, let me know who you are, by name, and let’s sort this out in real life.
You have exceeded my tolerance of harassment And you are doing this by choice.
Woman up, so to speak, and send me your real name. I’ll have a letter sent to you. This has gone beyond any level of decorum.
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:lol: wow.
@right horse at the right time I appreciate your follow request, but at this time I’m afraid I’ll have to decline.
