When my vets come for anything, they always do a wellness exam…listen to the heart, etc. before any treatment…even vaccines. I wonder if that was done before he got his selevit, etc. If it had been done, it would certainly shed some light on what happened.
I wonder why two other team horses in Riyadh were also given selevit. Did anyone discuss that with their management teams? Were they given the med IV? Did they plan on giving it to every horse there, and stopped after the situation with Chromatic unfolded? Or, were only certain team horses getting it? Who made these decisions?
My guess is we will never know the answers to any of these questions, and this whole thing will get quietly settled.
That would not surprise me in the least.
I’m trying to catch up on the thread.
What recent video? Is there a link? Thanks in advance.
Realistically, it is not anyone else’s business. But it could certainly be an eye-opener for anyone else who is thinking of sending their horse to an international competition.
It’s not anyone’s business… but the owner has now made public statements and implicated the US team Vet in the death of a horse, and what amounts to veterinary malpractice. And a lot of people are wondering if their USEF dues are supporting this? And if so… why? And no one has heard anything from the team vet, probably because a lawyer told him to stay silent.
Anyway… if it all does get settled privately after this… but the vet isn’t formally charged with wrongdoing… I think that’s a challenging outcome in some respects.
There are some good thoughts here. I, too, wonder…had this been McClain’s horse…and McKeever had said “no”…
BUT…
Despite the various twists and turns and offshoot subject matter herein, I would say this case is NOT about any of those–NOT about Chromatic’s fitness, soundness, or previous vet care and management. It’s NOT about a “vet going rogue”–he was following team and USEF/USET protocol it seems to me (but I am not freeing him of liability!).
It IS about Selevit or similar, being used OFF LABEL, and “the team” taking over the care of horse and allegedly making decisions without the owner’s knowledge and/or consent, resulting in the death of a horse.
It stinks of liability!!
Ok.
But then why didn’t all the team horses get selevit? Reports say it was only given to Chromatic and two others. If it was a team protocol, it seems like they would have given it to all of them.
I believe they’re referring to a video posted on FB by Kristin Medall Simpson-Ferguson Hardin, who is for whatever reason being referred to on here as KMSFH. I see no reason to turn someone’s name into an acronym when they post something publicly online.
Because those are her initials an typing out out Kristin Medall Simpson-Ferguson Hardin is a right pain in the backside. If you’d like to share a link, it would be appreciated.
We can just call her Kristin Hardin, as she has been referred to at shows for years.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?id=1592221552&story_fbid=10230617480932688
ETA she replied to a few people (including KC) in comments as well. She’s (Kristin) a piece of work
OK, that video is coo-coo! O____o
Puts her opinion in perspective.
Kristin has her own style and speaks her mind on social media. As I said earlier… she’s pretty colorful. But… she also can ride a heck of a lot better than most of the rest of us, and has been doing so for decades. She knows a thing or two about jumping.
The video @Demerara_Stables linked was the second one she posted. There was an earlier one that spoke to the issue of competing horses with soundness issues. Again, I don’t know what I don’t know about the Chromatic situation. I’ll reserve judgement. But… she’s not wrong that there are way too many situations where unsound horses are out there competing for one reason or another. And… it’s bad. And sad.
I disagree about her riding ability. Sure, she can stay on, but her hands and style leave a lot to be desired. I’ve been watching her ride for over 10 years both in video and in person. I’ve seen heart in throat moments more than once.
Ok. So you are saying you ride better than Kristin? Good for you.

Because those are her initials an typing out out Kristin Medall Simpson-Ferguson Hardin is a right pain in the backside. If you’d like to share a link, it would be appreciated.
I agree about that but unless I missed it (quite possible), her name was never clarified when she was first mentioned in this thread, leaving readers to wonder who the heck KMSFH is and is her opinion worth listening to? I’m old school
AP style, where a person’s full name is written the first time they are brought up in an article and then they are referred to by last name in subsequent paragraphs. Makes things less confusing.
The use of just her initials makes one think she is important enough that everyone should recognize her, which I don’t feel is the case. Despite her having a “fan page” on FB
There are quite a few interesting exchanges on that post
Not at all what I said, try reading it again

I believe they’re referring to a video posted on FB by Kristin Medall Simpson-Ferguson Hardin, who is for whatever reason being referred to on here as KMSFH.
And who is she, not the owner right?
Can someone give her a longer phone camera stick things? Mr DeMille closeup.