Does anyone have any information on the Selle Francias Stallion Sarastro? I can’t find any information on him.
thanks
Does anyone have any information on the Selle Francias Stallion Sarastro? I can’t find any information on him.
thanks
According to Ken Rehill (FMulder here) he is the most popular eventing sire in France at the moment.
He is the sire of the eventing Phenomenon Petrus de la Triballe who has never not won an event he has entered.
Here’s a link to Petrus’s pedigree:
http://www.equilignees.fr/pedigree.php?nid=270807
hmmm, interesting. I am going to have to do some more research on him. Everything I have found so far is in french and thats not doing me any good! lol
Petrus de la Triballe was 6 yo champion at Le Lion last year, and Mighty Magic was reserve to him.
Thank you again!
Sarastro died this year, but he is the currently the number one ranked stallion for eventing in France.
Honestly–if I had a mare who was an event horse and a good fit for Sarastro and the opportunity to use him, I’d leap so fast it would make your head swim. Especially since he’s dead. If you came up with a nice foal, it would be almost unique in North America and a great asset to the breeding pool. I’d suspect, since French event horses have a lot of blood and can be hot, that the mare would need to have a rather placid temperament. But this would simply be guessing.
And here’s the funny thing…what breed do you think he is?
according to the French database, Sarastro is an AC. Not real sure what that is, but he’s mostly AA, SF and SFA, and ps (TB), with a touch of Demi-Sang from the old days.
After all this information, I am pretty sure I am going to jump at the opportunity. Of the two mares I am pretty sure my younger will be a great match.
Sure am glad I asked about him!
…Also glad there are some people on here who know what they are talking about!
I get what AA is but not sure what AC is either or SFA?? So many abbreviations!
I found this in the FAQs on the SF website:
What is the SFA and SFB?
These are two sections of Stud Book which decided between French the Selle horses according to their origins. Since 2009, these two sections do nothing any more but one, the SF. No paper modification is necessary, and the horses profit all from the same advantages of Selle Français.
The SFA was the register of excellence comprising the French Saddle pure stock and the best of the foreign contributions. The SFB was the register of the opening, allowing crossings and horses presenting a current of foreign blood and while waiting to justify performances
AC stands for Anglo de Complement
It’s the studbook for arab/TB crosses with less than 25% Arab blood or the minimum required for AA registration. One would guess that SFs might also be allowed, but that hasn’t yet shown up in my research.
But this is just a guess, since I have trouble with French also. Andy.Smaga will know.
Just found a website for him, and he has a extraordinarily high jumping index number of 146. He’s also an interesting color–black with the mealy gene.
http://www.le-cheval-bleu.com/sarastro.htm
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You’re Canadian. You’re supposed to be bi-lingual.
Is is semen still available in the US??? I know the OP has a good option but what about the rest of us.
He might be a good cross with one of my mares…although I wonder if I need to worry about too much Nasrullah.
extraordinarily high jumping index number of 146
That’s not an index in the same way as Germany or Holland. Alligator Fontaine holds the record for ISO number (which is what we’re talking about here) at 190, so 146 isn’t high or extraordinary, but Sarastro is a super stallion. I think Nasrullah appears in both Sarastro and Alligator’s pedigrees.
Sarastros motherline is pure anglo arab, which is normally a word which those who don’t know run away from screaming, but it’s an important studbook for eventing. His sire line is mostly tb, but there’s something else in there which I don’t know.
an American client of mine who uses Graf, bought a sarastro kid at the Le Lion sale last year.
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Apparently I did not pay attention well enough in school :eek:
If the something else is Demi-Sang, it was the old part TB French studbook. I don’t know if it still exists, or if it’s been rolled into the SF studbook or has turned into the AQPS. The french database doesn’t have breeding on Marmotte SF’s damline or anything on her sire line other than the sire who was SF.
Does anyone know what type of temperament he throws?
The Cheval Bleu website describes him as “un mental exceptionnel”. This is their primary description–not jumping machine or superior stallion. Un mental exceptionnel seems to be a fairly common phrase in French horse lingo, so if you can find someone who is both a French speaker and knows what the term connotes you’ll be well along the way to answers. It might correlate to “rideable.”
If I were you, I’d pm andy.smaga for more information.
Sarastro is registered Selle Français and accepted as a producer of French AA. Born May 9, 1984. He is tall: 173cm.
His mother line is AA and has 2 major AA producers with Laurier and Nithard.
He competed in showjumping his index is ISO 146 (ISO is for show jumping performances and ICC for eventing and IDR for dressage.
He was not a top jumper but a good jumper. And with lot of TB and AA blood that made him a top producer of eventer.
Sire is Nightko a tall Selle Français (174cm) with more than 90% TB, and to be complete the Demi Sang is an old SB that is now the SF studbook. (SFA and SFB are meaningless today and only SF is used today)
I have his 5 generation pedigree in PDF format but don’t know how to attach, will send the file to whom is interested.
Hope this help.