Should the Desert Circuit be cancelled? Or are you going?

Hello, My understanding is that horse shows fall under “professional sports” because the trainers are working at the sport. As far as New Zealand, my son is going there for higher education and can’t get to NZ until Feb. 2020 to his continuing sadness. The Kiwis aren’t stupid and they have decided that some financial pain is worth a few lives. We have decided the opposite, hence our huge death toll and hospital problems. I would hate to break my arm and sit around for a day waiting for a doctor to cast it frankly.

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I have. My husband was let got from his IT job of 10 yrs (from a large company) directly due to the impact of COVID at the end of August. His whole team was cut due to the company losing their contract for a big airline. We are now operating on about 65% of our prior income, which includes unemployment. It is very hard to get hired in his field right now. The jobs are few and far between, and when they pop-up they gets hundreds of applicants.

@HJdaydream sorry to hear that - sounds very stressful for him and you. Hopefully things get better this year.

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I’m sorry to hear of those that are struggling at this time. Is there anything the rest of us, who haven’t been impacted severely financially, can do to help?

@HJdaydream also realized after I responded who you are. Huge fan of the blog and the podcast. Listened to the latest episode yesterday as I drove to my lesson. I have lots of faith in you! Hope the foot is feeling better.

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I think there is some confusion too. I think sometimes a hospital might have a full ICU but the ER still functions like normal. Personally, I’ve seen the two mixed up in conversations so that maybe happening with others as well and lead to more confusion

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Quoting this to reply to post above … I think a nurse would know where the ER is and where the ICU is and whether or not the ER rooms are full of COVID ICU overflow.

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I think a nurse would too. My post was directed towards a poster who expressed confusion and I replied that I had seen some confusion amongst my community as well re ICU and ER.

You can calm down. I’m not trying to discount @mmeqcenter nurse friend.

PS - my grandmother’s most recent visit to ER for heart failure took a long time above normal and my mother reported patients on stretchers in the hallway. We didn’t see where that particular hospital had reported reaching ICU capacity but of course we might have missed it OR perhaps it was just a really busy day at that ER

20 years ago my father spent several nights on a stretcher in a premier hospital in Florida. Happened 3-4 times. No one asked the locals to stop living and working because old people were in town.

It’s easy to check ER wait list times. People are not being kept in hospital for a normal case of the Chinese virus. At least none of the people I know with winter viruses

Seriously?

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She and clanter should form a club!

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My husband is an ER physician (northeast US) and he doesn’t really get the choice to stay home if that’s what he deems safe. Not everyone can actually make their own choice when it comes to risk. If someone else takes a risk, he is put at higher risk. He spent the holidays at the hospital and I spent them home alone while others did whatever risk level they felt appropriate. And now he and his colleagues are paying for other people’s choices at work.

This applies to others, too, who have to choose between risks: the risk of no income to support their families or the risk of Covid through their work place (countless blue collar jobs). It raises their risk when people go take needless risks, then come to their place of work for necessities.

Just because you’re comfortable with the risk of driving buzzed doesn’t mean the other people on the road are safe just because they’re sober.

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Being old isn’t contagious. Coronavirus is. But you know that, you’re just trolling

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Here’s what people like you don’t get: Free choice stops where other people’s health and safety start. You do not have “free choice” do knowingly do things that objectively endanger the lives and wellbeing of others. See: DUI laws, traffic laws, laws surrounding telling partners you are HIV+, reckless endangerment laws.

Enjoy your privilege and get bent.

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Thank you I am enjoying life to the fullest! I hope everyone is enjoying themselves as much as I am.

Selfish.

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You can see wait times in Ocala here: ER Wait Times | Ocala Health | Ocala, FL (ocalahealthsystem.com)
Or you can go to Gainesville where the wait time is here: Home | North Florida Regional Medical Center | Gainesville, FL (nfrmc.com)

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For what it’s worth, I’m not comfortable with a lot of risk. Unfortunately I can’t work at home, so I have that exposure. I go to the barn but cautiously (meaning wearing a mask and watching my distance). The only thing that I do that is non essential and carries some risk is dog class. There are not many of us there, we wear masks, and I try to really watch my distance. I go there primarily in an attempt to keep my dog used to working around other dogs. Some people probably wouldn’t do that, and I would never want to harm anything or transmit anything to anyone. I just have to accept that others are more comfortable with other things - maybe going to restaurants, church, etc. than I would be.

Apparently not. But the question of what hypothetical restrictions should exist isn’t really the point here — California has a set of quite serious restrictions right now (and an alarming case rate), and the question is given those conditions, does going to show violate those rules (in spirit if not in letter), impose risk on oneself and others, and make oneself (and, not that anyone cares, others in the horse going community) look a bit like Marie Antoinette…and the answer to all of those questions is an unequivocal yes. And yet…

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technically the USEF should have some of this info as anyone who is injured at a show grounds and requires medical attention must submit a medical clearance to the USEF for permission to compete again. See Gr 849 in rule book for more info on rules around accidents and reporting

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