I feel like this sums up the entire doodle thing in one sentence 
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Pyr-Poodles - I used to say Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot about this cross. OK, I say that about darned near ANY cross but THIS one in particular had me flummoxed. I mean, what in H*** are those breeders trying to accomplish?
And then I remembered that VERY BIG “white” PoodleDoodles are quite the thing these days. Those are usually produced by crossing big Standard Poodles with “white” Golden Retrievers, which are sometimes referred to as English Cream Retrievers. English Creams aren’t particularly common in the USA, but Pyrs are found way too often at humane society shelters (usually surrendered by owners who couldn’t deal with their size and tendency to go on walkabouts). So my assumption is the Pyr-Doodle breeders are trying to meet the demand for big white PoodleDoodles but don’t want to spend the money to import an English Cream Retriever so they get a Pyr from the pound to use as a breeder. And I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if most of them are trying to pass off the pups as “Sugar Doodles” (big, white Golden Doodles). Nor would I be surprised if the buyers gave a d*** that it wasn’t really a Golden cross - all they care about is that it is big and white and a “non-shedding” PoodleDoodle… 
[Edited for clarity.]
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I keep seeing Brodie the Goldendoodle all over the place. Cute dog, and the guy seems to care about him, but it’s a doodle.
Yes. THIS… they do look like muppets.
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Is that the one trying to sell the stupid fancy dog food on TikTok too?
I’m not sure… I try not to click. Cute dog though.
Actually, at least around southern Cal, there were “Peke-a-Poos” (guess the cross!). This was the first time I’d ever heard about these sorts of things. Cockapoos came later. Sister bought a Peke-a-Poos for some ridiculous amount right when she was first out of college, living with roommates.
The pup was a hot mess in that situation, roommates were complaining, so she flew her home to live with M&D. She eventually became Dad’s favorite love, and for the rest of her life, if she heard an airplane overhead, she would bark angrily at it, because of her time as “cargo”. The joke was that we owned the only dog around that chased airplanes.
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My Pyrenees chased airplanes! And vultures, eagles… basically anything in her airspace except balloons and windsurfers, from which she’d toodle off in terror. She was trying to protect imaginary baby lambs.
My Border collie herded sky fliers out of her airspace.
I sometimes see a very cute Pyrenees x Poodle named Honey Wheat Toast. I think that another reason that people make such an ignorant cross is so they can give the dog a cutesy name.
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Mine does too! Anything in the air, especially birds, but planes and helicopters too.
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I’m telling you all… Bull-Shihtz needs to happen.
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I guess my little Chihuahua mix is a softie. He found an ant on the vinyl floor and was following and pawing at it. Except he didnt stick his paw out far enough to actually touch it. I started egging him on and he finally touched it. He responded like a swimmer when something touches their feet. "OMG! What was that? Is it on me? Get it off!!! " 
He never did kill it. I looked it up and if he is a Chihuahua crossed with a Miniature Pinscher as he appears to be, that would make him a “Chipin” 
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So, I just saw a guy advertising pocket size pit bulls. It was not a joke! They were 16 inches tall……just what the world needs….
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It wouldn’t be the worst thing; better than jumbo sized.
But, in reality, that’s not that much smaller than the standard for an Am Staff. Bitches should be 17-18 inches; dogs 18-19. Most ‘pit bulls’ are oversized mutts. The Am Staff is a compact, medium sized dog.
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I think that goes back to people having no idea what the breed standards are and what that measures out in reality. I’ve had folks who own shelties insist my 13" cotton coat is too small. Ding her for her coat for sure (these same folks have no idea what I’m talking about) but her height is perfectly within the standard; we’re just used to oversized stocky shelties in the US!
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I have two issues with these “designer” mutts.
One - the people that are buying them are doing zero research. They hear “-oodle” in the name and assume it’s going to be “hypoallergic, non-shedding” and they don’t seem to care about anything else. Even though it’s a crap shoot whether the F1 cross is going to get the poodle coat and most backyard breeders aren’t going to inform the buyer if the pup doesn’t have it. And I am still astounded by the price tag. A barn I know breeds their Australian shepherd to a poodle and they were selling the pups for $3,500 and had no problem finding buyers. All the buyers were from the nearby large city and all of them said they wanted a non-shedding dog. I bought my purebred English mastiff pup around the same time from a reputable breeder with both parents registered and shown etc. for $3k with a two year health guarantee.
Two - most of the people breeding these dogs don’t care what the parents look like, as long as they can produce pups. Let’s say you breed your poodle at 2 without any health testing and then oops 3 years later the dog has a degenerative disease, but has already put 30+ pups out in the world (rough estimate). Then some of those people may breed their dogs and it’s not a good cycle. My dog’s full brother (same litter) was shown by the breeder and got his championship. Does that mean my dog can breed? Hell no. Even if I didn’t have a non-breeding contract I would never do it. I’ve been asked before because some people just want the giant dogs. My pup is 220lbs (and not fat - very healthy keeping him as lean as possible). He’s just a big boy. English mastiffs do not need to be bred specifically to get any larger than they already are.
I wish people would just stop buying these dogs as to not continue to drive the market, but I know that’s a pipe dream.
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And Poodle-Doodles are so trendy, people have to have one so everyone they know will gush over the new pup and be insanely jealous.
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Interesting! I had no idea since most the ones I see are much taller. Thank you
My long experience is that the general public is only able to be conscious of approximately ten breeds at any given point in time. Everyone has the same list. “Designers” are one, right now. So are corgis, mini aussies (oh come on, that’s what everyone calls them so that’s their name), border collies, jacks (currently the only terrier), and a handful of others. A major reason people buy them is that they think they know what they are, they’ve seen them and their friends have them. This is how the GP buys dogs. They don’t research breeds. They don’t do due diligence or expect breeders to, they don’t even know what that is. Wringing one’s hands over this is wasted angst, which could be channeled into more important problems one can do nothing about.
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Often times, folks who want a pitbull want something fierce and tough, but they also want something bigger and even more fearsome looking than an Am Staff. You know, the “My dog is a bigger badass than your dog” mindset.
So Bully breeders will sometimes use Boxers, Dobermans, etc., to get the height while keeping the tenacity and ferociousness. I’ve even heard of Great Dane crosses.
You forgot French Bulldogs, Labs, and Goldens. 
But I get your point and I think we have all pretty much agreed on here that the typical buyer/adopter doesn’t do much research when shopping for a dog. All they know is that their neighbor, cousin, work colleague, friend, etc., has a “XXXXX” and it’s really cute and smart and a good size and good with kids. They don’t think about breed related health issues, or coat maintenance, or needed amounts of exercise or training to make the dog a good citizen. They put far more research into buying a new car than they do into buying a living, breathing creature they need to be responsible for the rest of its life.
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Fixed it for you. 
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