Situation at the barn-- aggressive horse and owner doesn't understand severity of the situation

[endlessclimb]

Yeah, do this on a property I own and I know who is getting their 30 days.

Hint: It’s not the aggressive horse owner.

OP, you know this, but putting your horse somewhere you haven’t asked permission to put them in is a huge no-no.

[trubandloki]

@endlessclimb

OP, you know this, but putting your horse somewhere you haven’t asked permission to put them in is a huge no-no.

And it is putting their mare more at risk. Just shoving her out with another herd might not be the safest answer.

[ShenanAnna]

So, OP hasn’t even asked BO to move their mare to another pasture? That seems to be OP’s preferred resolution.

Surely OP has their phone number and can call, or leave a text saying youd like to talk about moving your mare to a much safer place/pasture. That would give the BO time to think about what could be arranged, or re-arranged. Just a thought.

ETA: post #93 says you’d like to move mare to another pasture there; post #96 says there isn’t another pasture, a previous post said that “gelding” used to be in a different pasture there. I obviously don’t understand.

[Scribbler]

@signmypapyrus

We’re actually kind of near Winnipeg and, yep, it’s like that poof suddenly you’re in “no man’s land.” We have a cold cellar to store food, although we do at least have grocery stores, but if you need things, you have to go to the nearest cities. What’s really funny is that my great grandparents immigrated here and lived in basically a town that had 50 people and there’s nothing there but a PO Box. They farmed and it’s fun to drive to their homestead.

Living here has given a great love for remote locations and wildlife. We found a fox den with babies and I’ve seen lots of birds. But the winters are the worst.

Ok you are out on the prairies. I have lots of extended family in Saskatchewan. As a child I looked at their huge farms and wondered why everyone didn’t have horses horses horses. But it was wheat farming not cattle ranching, the work horses disappeared after World War Two, and it wasn’t a riding culture, more buggy, sleigh and plow. And historically just scraping by economically. One branch of the family that was eventually doing better did get riding horses for a daughter when I was an adult.

But the environment is good horse country, they don’t mind the dry cold, and I think there’s at least one big warmblood breeder based in Manitoba because of the extremely cheap land prices.

So the irony is there is so much land for horses, that almost anyone who wants horses has their own land, or puts them on their uncle’s field. And big farms are quite private, there’s not a lot of precedent for having a string of people coming to see their horses every day. Why have 160 acres if you have to talk to someone who isn’t even family every day?

You might do best getting together with several other borders and seeing if you can rent a field that’s not in some kind of productive agriculture. And otherwise asking around via vet etc to see if anyone boards. Is there any horsemen’s association or club in your region?

[FjordBCRF]

@signmypapyrus

And right now there isn’t another pasture.

One of the barns I was at was agreeable to a boarder adding some fencing for her mare on her dime. If it’s in your budget, BO has the land, and is agreeable to something like that, you could get you and your horse out of harms way and still board there.

[Christa_P]

There is also the Buffalo, NY to Toronto corridor, it’s almost a continuous city.

[Angela_Freda]

@2DogsFarm

Agree, a text is not the best way to communicate.
Especially if BO is a Fogey (like me) & has turned off notifications.

I would text the minute there’s an issue, asking to speak to them in person ASAP.

[hoopoe]

@signmypapyrus are you close enough to an international crossing that you could consider boarding on the other side of the border?

you can cross back and forth every day and with a NEXUS Pass it is easier

[ShenanAnna]

I have put up temporary fences as described above, once in my house yard, which was big and had an orchard, and in a place that was fenced but I wanted a riding ring.

I also built a wall in my horse’s run-in in a different place to keep the wind (and snow) out. He was the only horse in a 15 x 30’ fenced area with one end against a building. Small, but there was pasture turnout.

[Scribbler]

@hoopoe

@signmypapyrus are you close enough to an international crossing that you could consider boarding on the other side of the border?

you can cross back and forth every day and with a NEXUS Pass it is easier

As a Canadian I would never do that. The border can be closed down way too easily, in any national emergency. Also the boarding situation isn’t going to be any better in rural Manitoba. Very similar lifestyle and culture.

Where I live many Canadians maintain summer homes on a spit of land called Point Roberts which is in the US but can only be accessed from Canada. During COVID no one could cross the border for 2 years to check on their property and Americans living there year round couldn’t get in or out except by boat. Absolute nightmare. Imagine anyone who had animals on the wrong side of the border.

[Scribbler]

@Christa_P

There is also the Buffalo, NY to Toronto corridor, it’s almost a continuous city.

Ah yes you are right. Though Americans think of Buffalo as Way Away from NYC and Toronto is the financial cultural and population capital of Canada!

[RMJacobs]

@Scribbler

I think the only place with twin cities on both sides of the border is Detroit/Windsor.

I was surprised at how close Detroit and Windsor are. We had a memorial luncheon for my MIL in Detroit a few years ago, then I crossed the border to drop DH and FIL at the casino. Then my daughter and I drove up to Toronto, with a stop in Guelph along the way to see a friend and her horse. From Windsor north is more how I pictured the border on the Canadian side. What can I say, I’m a dumb American!

Coming back a few days later, I almost got arrested at the border. My FIL used to make very inappropriate jokes. I was talking to the customs agent and told him I’d only bought a few cheap souvenir pens in Toronto for my co-workers. FIL pipes up “Exploding pens.” I had some explaining to do.

Rebecca

[Alterwho]

@Scribbler

In Vancouver you drive through prosperous suburban sprawl all the way to the border, then NW Washington State is very rural for 5 hours South to Seattle.

Seattle is only about 2 hours from the border nowhere near 5 hours and only a bit over 3 hours from Vancouver. And not all that rural in between. There are stretches where it is but not for the most part

[trubandloki]

@Scribbler

Though Americans think of Buffalo as Way Away from NYC

Buffalo is nothing like NYC and it is quite a distance from NYC.

I live in NY. So I am not just an American, but I am a NYer.

But I am not sure what any of this has to do with the aggressive horse issue.

[2DogsFarm]

[quote=“RMJacobs, post:112, topic:785502”] FIL pipes up “Exploding pens.” I had some explaining to do.
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Reminds me of driving nonstop Chgo to LA, with a carload of 20-somethings (me included).
Got stopped at the CA border & asked if we were transporting any fruit or vegetables.
Wiseass in the backseat points to sleeping pal & says “Just this one”
Border guard was not amused.

[sascha]

@trubandloki

But I am not sure what any of this has to do with the aggressive horse issue.

Are you new? This is CoTH. We enjoy tangents almost more than original topics themselves!

[jvanrens]

@sascha

@trubandloki

But I am not sure what any of this has to do with the aggressive horse issue.

Are you new? This is CoTH. We enjoy tangents almost more than original topics themselves!

It would be nice if the tangents were halfway accurate though. NYC is hours away from Buffalo, and the OP is out west, or I guess mid-west might be more accurate.

[Cowboy_Girl]

In a tough situation you always find a way. I filled the cooler in the car with a hose. And siphoned it out with another hose. No cooler carrying required.

[trubandloki]

@jvanrens

NYC is hours away from Buffalo

6ish hours… quite a long commute.

[Paint_Party]

@tikihorse

@Old_Mac_Donald

And here I thought the dog-poop-compass over in the THW thread was The Sign.

Whaaaaat? I’m slowly catching up on the board, but missed this one— please, enlighten me!

There isn’t an actual Dog Poop Compass (yet!) but this is where the discussion took place. Click on the bolded title. I’m not sure why it shows my post specifically:

Thoughts on "The Traveling Horse Witch?"

I, too, now have a mental dog poop diary. Morning hiking trail heads directly west. Dog religiously poops parallel to trail: looking west/pooping east alignment. But she’s a Labrador, so probably not the most reliable study subject.