Situation at the barn-- aggressive horse and owner doesn't understand severity of the situation

[OverandOnward]

@signmypapyrus

If the apocalypse happened, no one up here would know.

So I looked up a map showing Winnipeg, Manitoba – yeah I believe you.

I won’t mention the country name – There is at least one country, in an earlier decade, pre cell phones, that had a major destructive war inside its borders. Massive military and civilian casualties. But … not everyone living in the country knew there was a war.

The most remote farming villages, deep in the mountains, did not know about the war. They came out of it undisturbed. By the time they found out, they had no reason to dispute the new government that had no interest in them. Just carried on, no role in a significant world geo-political moment.

[tikihorse]

@Paint_Party

There isn’t an actual Dog Poop Compass (yet!) but this is where the discussion took place. Click on the bolded title. I’m not sure why it shows my post specifically:

I, too, now have a mental dog poop diary. Morning hiking trail heads directly west. Dog religiously poops parallel to trail: looking west/pooping east alignment. But she’s a Labrador, so probably not the most reliable study subject.

Oh lordly… I almost choked on a piece of popcorn, laughing!

[sascha]

@jvanrens

It would be nice if the tangents were halfway accurate though.

Where’s the fun in that?

[Angela_Freda]

Re consulting the BO before moving your horses pasture… Well of course, but I wonder, did BO consult with owners when adding this pia horse that is dangerous?

[endlessclimb]

Horse came at 10 months and is now 3 years old. Unlikely he started that way.

[Angela_Freda]

Yes, but only the OP has noticed?
Three years is plenty of time to wise up and create a round pen or other option for the Bad Seed so the other horses or people aren’t hurt.
I think the OPs problem is with the BO, who can do something, more than the horse or the clueless owner.

[endlessclimb]

Well yeah. The BO is the only one with the capacity to provide a solution that doesn’t involve risking your life to retrieve your horse.

I don’t know where I ever said otherwise.

[BrownDerby]

I wonder if there is some kind of dynamic between the barn owner and the gelding’s owner. Relative, friend, friend of employer, etc. That would fit with the BO’s flawed notion of exemption from a lawsuit. (“Oh, Gelding owner would NEVER sue,” and so on.) The bit about the boarders being required to help with the vet exam is just so bizarre that I wonder if the gelding owner has something on the BO.

The OP is between a rock and a hard place and I hope they find a resolution so they can have a nice summer.

[Warmblood1]

Some BOs flat do not care as long as they are making a little money or they are too ignorant to know better and won’t intervene. With the knowledge this BO has demonstrated, I don’t foresee them really able to fix the situation.

[Angela_Freda]

@endlessclimb

I don’t know where I ever said otherwise.

I don’t know why you thought I was addressing you in the first place?

[Scribbler]

@BrownDerby

I wonder if there is some kind of dynamic between the barn owner and the gelding’s owner. Relative, friend, friend of employer, etc. That would fit with the BO’s flawed notion of exemption from a lawsuit. (“Oh, Gelding owner would NEVER sue,” and so on.) The bit about the boarders being required to help with the vet exam is just so bizarre that I wonder if the gelding owner has something on the BO.

The OP is between a rock and a hard place and I hope they find a resolution so they can have a nice summer.

My impression was the vet exam was such a gong show that emergency help was deputized to get him into the stocks. All hands on board like a cast horse.

[endlessclimb]

@Angela_Freda

I don’t know why you thought I was addressing you in the first place?

@Angela_Freda

Re consulting the BO before moving your horses pasture

Because I’m the one that said the OP needed to do this. You countered my statement with an idiotic one.

[endlessclimb]

Every day, more and more, I understand why barns are shutting down.

While I agree that this BO (and others!) need to be quicker in giving 30 days in order to keep the peace with the good people they have as boarders, they do not need to consult with anyone, for anything. Should I consult my boarders if I want to bring in chickens? A donkey? A tiger? Inform, maybe. But consult?

Nope. It’s my damn property, I’ll do exactly as I please. If you don’t like that, go on and leave.

There are FAR fewer boarding facilities than there are people looking for somewhere to go. I don’t have time for Nancy the Ninny telling me what I’m allowed to do at my own house.

[Angela_Freda]

Lol sure makes sense.
I had no idea who offered that days ago, probably. And since I agreed, I’m not sure what your problem (today) is.

[BrownDerby]

Maybe we should revive The Daily Dumb thread.

[Angela_Freda]

@endlessclimb

they do not need to consult with anyone, for anything. Should I consult my boarders if I want to bring in chickens? A donkey? A tiger? Inform, maybe. But consult?

If *your lack of awareness of herd dynamics and demeanor of one horse putting others at risk or consideration for *your boarders is non-existent, I guess just do what you want. But it’s a great way to look like *you don’t care, and aren’t astute about mitigation of risks to valuable animals and the clients.

@endlessclimb

It’s my damn property, I’ll do exactly as I please.

A boarders horse is not your property and putting it in a herd where it’s at risk of injury (1) is a great way to lose boarders.

(1) beyond general “horses get hurt”

• *refers to “general” you.

[endlessclimb]

NOTHING has changed in the last 3 years here, other than the horse getting more dangerous to people. Their horse is not at additional risk.

If that bothers the OP badly enough (which it would me, for sure), they can leave.

But the BO does not owe anyone an explanation as to why they don’t want to do anything. It’s their place. They’re running it how they see fit. Don’t like it? See ya later, alligator.

[endlessclimb]

I’ve got some SUPER good new ones for that thread.

But BO’s inaction there pushed me to (gasp) - LEAVE. I knew I wasn’t going to change him or his inability to manage people. So I packed my crap and left.

He and I are still friends. I’ll be at his house later this evening. It wasn’t personal - it was a “business” decision. I pay too much money to be put in constant danger and to not be having fun.

[candyappy]

@endlessclimb

NOTHING has changed in the last 3 years here, other than the horse getting more dangerous to people

That was my take as well. Maybe OP should try and get BO to bring her horse in from turnout? Might get a response then…

[Warmblood1]

When my husband was active duty I boarded at all kinds of interesting places. I boarded at one barn where the owner was purposely leaving food out to lure the coyotes into the barn. I was floored when I found out. “My property, my rules” mentality which I get, but if you are running a business, you need to be reasonable. It was self care but I still got the hell out of there as soon as I could. The BO couldn’t be reasoned with.