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Don’t know much about this boy except there’s a relatively local magazine that I’ve seen him in. However the website for the breeder (millcreek trakeheners) is not functional. So I’m not sure if he’s available. Anyways he looks like a nice liitle (15.3) horse
Some of the small WB stallions mentioned in this thread may be great choices…but I am not sure they will bring the size down that much on your mare. I think considering a GRP is a good idea. They are like small WB’s.
My GRP stallion Burberry just completed his 30 day performance testing with great success. He proved he can do dressage, stadium jumping and cross country just like the big guys but in a 14hh package. Plus his “internal scores” were a 9.5 so he adds great temperement and rideability. He throws quality too…his first foals are all premiums and his first colt has been a champiuon at USDF breed shows and is currently the 5th highest scoring 2011 colt in the US! There are several other great GRP’s availabale and they may be a good option for you. I personaly can’t wait to see Burberry bred to some high quality WB mares as I think it will be a fabulous cross.
IMAGER s a small Trakehner approved by the ATA and by Martini. He is trained and shown to Intermediare I think- He is around 15.3 opr so.
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Some of the small WB stallions mentioned in this thread may be great choices…but I am not sure they will bring the size down that much on your mare. I think considering a GRP is a good idea. They are like small WB’s…[/QUOTE]
Agree. And I’ll add: the only way to nearly guarantee a smaller horse is to start with a smaller mare. 
I knew someone who bred a large mare to a pony stallion and ended up with a large pony looking horse complete with very fuzzy mane. SO…
DeNiro lines won’t add leg and they are very talented. but you could still get a larger horse than small.
Super Star (scroll down) is an excellent smaller (15.2hh) stallion.
His breeding is unusual but he’s produced consistently lovely offspring out of WBs, TBs, Arabs and ponies. You will get springy movement, intelligence and a big jump.
My own home-bred 6 year-old mare by Super Star is here. Her dam is 16hh; she is now almost 15hh. The rider in the photo is 5’8", so she can carry a full-sized adult quite easily.
Regazzoni?
I think if you have a specific size requirement, you would be best off to buy one that fills it! I have a 15.2 beautiful moving Trakehner mare, out of a 16.1 hand mare whose parents were both 16.3, by Summertime. Summertime is often faulted for having offspring that are too tall. So…you don’t always get what you think you will! When that mare was born, I claimed her for “my own”, but I am 5’9" so have had to give up that idea.
Super Star is a highbred Akhal Teke This means he is not considered “pure” by the Russian “Mother” stud book because of some TB blood back there somewhere.
Tekes generally are not tall like WBs or even TBs – they range from 15h to 15.3h for the most part. Therefore you are likely to get a smaller horse, because most of Super Star’s ancestors would be way under 16hh.
They are extremely athletic horses! I’ve never met a Teke yet that couldn’t jump, and they are nice movers as well.
The Akhal Teke “Absent” competed in dressage in 3 different Olympics under 2 different riders and won more medals than any horse in history till Rembrandt came along and tied him.
Super Star doesn’t really look like an Akhal Teke (he is far to bulky and stout), but he has a shiny coat and has proven himself up to PSG (at least) in dressage AND I hear he has the gaits as well.
He used to be approved OldNA as well…and that would be the only reservation I would have about breeding to this guy.
If you get a filly and are interested in breeding on, the foal being half Akhal Teke would mean she would have to “climb up the books” in terms of her get.
But as a performance horse? I think you would do great.
Oh, and if you are a Trake fan you might like this tidbit from history: a “Turcoman” stallion (Tekes originated from Turkmenistan) named Turcmein Atti was imported to Prussia where he was bred over 200 mares at the Trakhner stud from the years 1791-1806. He produce 17 sons, many of which contributed to the Trakehner breed.
Akhal Tekes also contributed to the formation of the English TB…when you see an “Arab” with “Turk” in it’s name it was most likely a Turkoman horse; like “Byerly Turk.”
Great breed…and very, very old.
I breed Arabian/Hanoverian crosses that are also registered Hanoverian. Escudo II is an excellent choice, LOVE mine and I’ll repeat it in 2012. I have 2 Arabian/Hanoverian foals due in 2012, both will be for sale.
Here’s my Escudo II filly, Excepchanel
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1096467809939.2015506.1173902979&type=1
Other stallions on my list:
Donnerweis GGF
Benidetto
Rubignon
Pablo
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I am giving strong consideration to using an Arabian stallion to produce a horse in the size range you are looking for.[/QUOTE]
There are a lot of Arabian stallions competing in sport disciplines, (plus others) at www.shnpayback.org
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Some of the small WB stallions mentioned in this thread may be great choices…but I am not sure they will bring the size down that much on your mare. I think considering a GRP is a good idea. They are like small WB’s.
My GRP stallion Burberry just completed his 30 day performance testing with great success. He proved he can do dressage, stadium jumping and cross country just like the big guys but in a 14hh package. Plus his “internal scores” were a 9.5 so he adds great temperement and rideability. He throws quality too…his first foals are all premiums and his first colt has been a champiuon at USDF breed shows and is currently the 5th highest scoring 2011 colt in the US! There are several other great GRP’s availabale and they may be a good option for you. I personaly can’t wait to see Burberry bred to some high quality WB mares as I think it will be a fabulous cross.[/QUOTE]
I love him!
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Super Star doesn’t really look like an Akhal Teke (he is far to bulky and stout), but he has a shiny coat and has proven himself up to PSG (at least) in dressage AND I hear he has the gaits as well. [/QUOTE]
SS might not be long and skinny like a typey Akhal-Teke, but my TB-Teke mare is surprisingly loaded with Teke traits. She has gigantic curvy ears, an AT head, a shiny black coat, and she’s built like a whippet: lean and narrow.
I do plan to do an ET or two from her next spring. I’m looking for something of the French Anglo-Arab variety.
I just love Burberry, Hluing beat me to it! To me, he really looks like a pretty shrunken down WB, very correct. If he wasn’t “too small” for my pony mares, I’d use him.:yes: Otherwise, I’ve seen some dynamite Donarweiss/Welsh crosses…not sure if he’d bring the size down enough on a large mare though.
Thanks Dune! You just need bigger mares…lol;)
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I do plan to do an ET or two from her next spring. I’m looking for something of the French Anglo-Arab variety.[/QUOTE]
I don’t think there are any French Anglo Arabian stallions in the US. I own two French Anglo Arabian mares. Plus I have their half brother, who is an Anglo stallion.
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I don’t think there are any French Anglo Arabian stallions in the US. [/QUOTE]
Not a concern for me. If I see something I like and there’s no US rep, I import my own.
Here are two that I like: (1) the German-bred AA Bonaparte N and (2) the French-bred AA pony jumper Indien de Here.
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What about Escudo II? He is 16.0 hands, and I don’t think he throws large. I bred my “one and only” competition mare to him (she is due next July), and she is 15.3. (She has 3 full sisters, all around the same size–they are by Art Deco out of a small hunter TB mare, MAYBE 15.2 on her tiptoes.)
I am 5’3", about 128 lbs, and OLD. I prefer the small to medium sized horses. MUCH easier to ride, (arguably) more athletic, and easier on themselves. I did a lot of research into stallions before I bred my mare, the “E boys” tend to throw more medium sized and compact horses, and have a lot of get on the ground, hence my choice. I also thought about Shine–he is another moderately sized stallion with a good brain.
Good luck![/QUOTE]
I cannot possibly say enough wonderful things about my Three Escudo II offspring, but small they are not. Mare is 15.3 and 3/4". The three year old is 16.2 and growthy…his two year old full brother is the same size, and growing like a weed! The filly from this year is a good size, and will probably make 16.1h easily. Great babies, though!!!
Well if you want spots and smaller
I’d suggest a Knabstrupper. They are generally around 15.2-3, and really easy to train and ride.
And you have several to choose from.
Pegasus, Halifax, Colorado. etc.
MW
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I cannot possibly say enough wonderful things about my Three Escudo II offspring, but small they are not. Mare is 15.3 and 3/4". The three year old is 16.2 and growthy…his two year old full brother is the same size, and growing like a weed! The filly from this year is a good size, and will probably make 16.1h easily. Great babies, though!!![/QUOTE]
:eek: Say it aint so, Joe!
For comparison, 3 of my mare’s full siblings are her size or smaller (and are pretty compact), I’m hoping (especially as a maiden) that she won’t throw something ginormous.
Good to hear that yours are so nice, otherwise (Any pix to share, pretty please?? If you could PM me some, that would be so very appreciated.)
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