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The Equimax treats up to 1320 pounds. So if my horse weighs 888 do you still recomend 2 tubes or just go by the dial and stop at correct weight? By the way when I ordered from Country Supply they charged me $10.99 a tube, but it says $9.74 on there web site. Any one else get charged more?

I figured I was “covered” by the DD of Ivermectin in May/September

[quote=Countryclips;3510024]The Equimax treats up to 1320 pounds. So if my horse weighs 888 do you still recomend 2 tubes or just go by the dial and stop at correct weight? By the way when I ordered from Country Supply they charged me $10.99 a tube, but it says $9.74 on there web site. Any one else get charged more?
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I’d call them right away. I’ve never had prices change like that with CS. Something’s funky.

Don’t you wonder if Country Supply is wondering what the run on Equimax is all about? I noticed with just Ivermectin they now have a LOWER price for FEWER tubes bought, it used to be the other way around. Weird indeed.

My little guy came in with the big flakey dandruf but he didn’t have any horrible breakout though I guess the photos on the webpage I started of his midline and sheath were gruesome in comparison to some of his stable mates.

I should state that she also has that funky crap on her rump still though. It’s not rain rot, but the hair is extremely thin and I’m wondering if she is going to bald in those spots (which are very large). I’ll try and get a pic of it. Also she is now having these weird little pink spots showing up…

Oh goodie - I get a gold star AND a smiley face next to my name today!

Thanks for the schedule - I’ll write it down

ChocoMare

Thank you for the worming schedule. What schedule would you recommend if I would like to omit Quest (have seen a couple of bad reactions due to Moxidectin)?
Did 2nd double dose of Equimax with my 5 yesterday afternoon. Will be interesting to see if they have the same reactions this time. The swelling in one gelding’s legs showed up it the first 24hrs and they all had midline swelling esp in front of sheath area withing 48hrs.

lmao, I was wondering the same thing, especially after someone posted they ordered 60 tubes :lol:

[QUOTE=J Swan;3510010]
Question -

So - now what?

What is the regimen now that they’re gone? Is this something we should add to our worming program, and if so - when?

Sorry if it’s already been written and I missed it. I’d be interested in knowing what the southerners are doing in particular.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I’m SO glad you asked this! I was wondering myself!

Haven’t done the DD yet - vet bills currently prohibit a large purchase of wormer (I already had the “scheduled wormer” purchased - I had purchased my year’s supply of wormer at the beginning of the year. Thanks for messing me up, Chocomare! :lol:)

Free Bucket with orders over $150 with Equimax.

I’ve been thinking the same thing. Gosh -we all should have bought some stock in the company before we did this big run on their product!!! :lol:

Well if anyone is ordering from KV Vet - ordering at least 1 Equimax and having a total order over $150 gets you… a 2 gallon bucket that says Equimax on one side and KV Vet on the other!! Mine arrived last night!! woo hoo.
(6+ tubes of Equimax at KV Vet are $9.95 each. Use coupon code 54 for an additional $5 off total order. Orders over $50 are free shipping.

Update on Amber Bock

Update on the yellow gelding (Amber Bock - Shipsy rescue).
Started with 1 Ivermectin & 1 E’max. Saw some decrease in the belly crusties. 2 weeks later he got DDEquimax. 4 days later, he has a sore on his side - saddle area (he is not ridden, I’m just describing the “zone”) - don’t know if it’s a rub/scrape or eruption. About quarter size. No hair and oozing. He also has a dime-sized greyish-white area on the right side of his tail. I’ve seen a few new elongated lumps on the left side of his chest. His belly crusties are reduced. He still has the large lumps at the umbilical area - which could be scar tissue or ???

The B&W MFT (Bentley) Started with 1 Ivermectin & 1 E’max. 2 weeks later he got DDEquimax. continues to have long welts on his chest that he loves me to scratch. I’m so creeped out when I think that I thought these were SCARS… glechk… No eruptions on him. The long welts simply go away after a few days.

Quarter Horse (Bubba) - not symptomatic at the beginning. Started with 1 Ivermectin & 1 E’max. 2 weeks later, he got a single dose of Equimax. The only change I noticed in him was a decrease in cribbing the day of the dosing.

So Chocomare - you won’t be using any of the other dewormer families? I like to deworm at 6 week intervals from May through Sept…
Which gives me: Jan, March, May, June, July, Sept, Nov, Dec. I would do an anthelcide in Dec (which will now be 1.5x), and a strongid or panacur in March (cold weather- little or no grazing). All others would be ivermectin (now DD), Equimax once (now DD), and Quest Plus once. ???

While I haven’t done so yet, it would probably good a good idea for me to do just that for a year’s rotation.

It’s two doses, not two tubes.

Chocomare - is the January DD of EM followed in 14 days by another DDEM?

Nope. :slight_smile:

Update on Reese…

And my results are inconclusive.

Started with a horse that had recently developed come-and-go hives, some rainrot on his back/loins and hind legs, and 3-4 hard, pea-sized bumps on the left side of his withers, right under where the mane ends. He had always developed a scabby area in front of his sheath during fly season, to which I tended to apply a SWAT/Corona mix when it got bad.

First DD EM given 8/19. No hives since, but random, dime-sized swellings in places on his body. No noticeable increase in scratching. Rainrot starts to get better, even though I’m only scrubbing it (Maloseb) and applying Microtek occassionally (this hadn’t worked previously).

Second DD EM given 9/2. One week later, Rainrot is gone (though I haven’t treated it at all since 9/2), bumps on the side of the wither are noticeably smaller, and still hasn’t had any hives. Spot in front of sheath isn’t bad, per se, but it’s not OMG it’s gone!, either.

Horse gets fall shots 9/9. Ridden in a lesson, flat and jumping, and seems perfectly fine. Evening of 9/10, slight swelling of the area in front of his sheath, fat left hind. Leg is warm, but horse is sound so it’s probably edema from the shots? Horse is ridden on the flat only, at end of ride edema is 1/2 gone. Leg is cold hosed for 10 minutes, wrapped and horse is given 2 bute (I know I overreact, but he’s never had a fat leg before, ever).

Trainer took the wrap off this morning and was to ride him today - no news is good news, so swelling must be down.

And so after all that, I think I may do one last DD EM this Tuesday, the 16th. Just to be sure. Just to be safe. Because I overdo things when it comes to the care and well-being of my baby sometimes. The worst that can happen is he’s REALLY clean, right?

I have read most of this thread but not all so I hope this isn’t a repetative question-but shouldn’t there be concern for causing parasite resistance with this much dd worming? My vet seemed to think I had a ivermectin resistance problem at my barn last year and had me cut back on th ivermetcin usage.

You are MUCH more likely to build resistance by under dosing than over dosing.

Studies have shown that most people under estimate the weight of their horses. Those people then turn around and only give their 1200 lbs horse 1000 lbs of wormer, and let’s say another 100 lbs worth of wormer is dropped. That 1200 lbs horse only gets 900 lbs worth of wormer. That’s not enough to kill the worms, and the hardier ones become resistant to the chemical.

By double dosing, you are building in some wiggle room on the weight and some wiggle room on the dropping. The horse actually gets the amount of wormer that is NEEDED to kill the worms. When you’re dosing the horse appropriately, there’s enough chemical to kill the parasites, and you do not develop resistance–because you’ve killed everything.

[QUOTE=prince and ponies;3510899]
I have read most of this thread but not all so I hope this isn’t a repetative question-but shouldn’t there be concern for causing parasite resistance with this much dd worming? My vet seemed to think I had a ivermectin resistance problem at my barn last year and had me cut back on th ivermetcin usage.[/QUOTE]

All I can say is that it was well worth any risk in my situation to clear up my horse’s probelem that was making his and my life miserable. He is at least 90%better than before the DD, and the last 10% is well on it’s way! After all the alternatives I’ve tried (and it’s quite a list, including steroids) I am the most comfortable with this way to resolve his condition. I feel like it’s actually “curing” rather than just covering up symptoms.

However, From what I’ve ready here and other places, there is no proof anywhere that parasites have been known to become resistent to ivermectin, and that it actually has the least likely-ness to cause that problem. I also agree that I’d rather give them a full blown attack and give them little chance to survive, than under dose and risk not killing them all off.

Okay I’m done now… but seriously, you don’t know how excited I am that this has actually taken care of my horse’s problem!

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but seriously, you don’t know how excited I am that this has actually taken care of my horse’s problem![/QUOTE]

AMEN!!! :yes::D:yes: