Anyone seen weight gain as a result?
Hi,
I DD’d ivermectin, then 2 weeks later DD’d Equimax, then 2 weeks later did single dose ivermectin.
Both horses are becoming porkers with NO dietary changes, NO exercise changes, NO changes that I can determine. It’s colder so they have been more active in the paddocks.
Anyone else seen this with the DD regiment?
Boy are they going to be disappointed when I take away the remainig handful of feed they get… 
I skipped worming this week and instead did UlcerGuard. Tonight was the 4th and last dose of the syringe…and Tucker’s face is 90% cleared up! How stupid of me not to do it sooner, it worked when I did it last December. The scabs and crud are gone and hair already regrowing. The habronema also is 90% better, which I attribute to the dding. Will worm again next weekend.
Will have to post pictures this week!
Oh Lori!!! So glad to hear that Tucker is greatly improved. Amazing!!! Hmmmm, wonder what your vet is gonna say? 
Re: Results Page. Yes, I’m still compiling. LMH, bless her heart, is up to her eyeballs :(…so I’m going to do my best to tackle it alone. Like you guys, I work full time Mon-Fri, have a hubby, teach lessons, ride my own horses and all that other “stuff” that takes up my life. Hopefully I can set aside a few hours each Saturday to sit at the computer and work on it. There is a TON of data, so I ask your patience with me. K?
hmm
As you compile I wonder if the age of the horses will relate ot anything? I sort of fell like the older the horse the more likely to have major reaactions, at least in my herd. Seems like the infestation may build slowly over years as babies have no itchy, My youngest mane rubber is 3 and the worst is 11.
Things really go crazy when you DD. A mildly itchy horse may erupt all over but if you stay the course they get better.
Dick
Taking the plunge
Well here we go. I received my order of wormers finally. So I am going to do the protocol. My 11 year old Arabian is very thin, even though I have more than doubled his supplemental feed. He has a sort of knob the size of brazil nut on his spine on the lower back. Don’t know when that appeared but noticed it this summer. With all the grooming and such, I would have noticed if it had appeared much sooner than that.
He is prone to scratches and has lately even though there was minimal rain. He has a few bug bites that didn’t really heal, leaving little scabs. Nothing much really. His face seems itchy even though he doesn’t go so far as rub the fur off. He did rub his tail pretty well but it didn’t bald, just got really short at the top.
Tonight I did a single dose of Ivermectin to start things cause I was afraid of massive die-off since he hasn’t been wormed much in the last few years. I used herbal stuff.
I will give the first double dose of Equimax in one week, and the second dd two weeks later. I am a bit scared. I will keep my fingers crossed. Thanks every one for posting. I feel that between the reports here and the what I have read elsewhere that I doing the right thing.
Dee
:yes: Now you know why we tell the people with skinny horses to deworm the snot out of them!
Sounds like a very good plan. I’ll be thinking of you and your Arab in the coming weeks. keep us posted on results. When you send your results to ChocoMare, be sure to tell her what previous deworming protocol you were using (the herbal stuff) … thanks!
Jumping on the bandwagon…Plan to double dose my guy this afternoon. He’s a 17 year old bashkir curly who’s been dealing with a horrible skin issue… Not fungus, and he itches himself like crazy. Face/tail/chest/ stomach etc. So hoping this will help…
herbal wormer
Hi Gabz,
thank you for supporting us. Just to give you more info on the worming. I got Wali in January 2007. He had been a pasture ornment for approximately 3 years. He was way out it rural Quebec where there are not vets. Had not been wormed at all.
When I got him, the routine prepurchase vet exam was done and the vet gave me a wormer just in case…I fed it to him (my horse, not the vet hehehe).
Then I bought some DE, thinking I would save my horse from the chemical drug scene. After a very hard summer, he put on lots of weight last winter (with our freezing up here, there wouldn’t be a worm species that could survive you would think). But no. He lost ALL the weight with shedding this spring and never did put it back on. So the vet sold me some dewormer that I can’t name for lack of info. I should have clued in cause he was rubbing his tail, and after worming, the hair started to grow back.
Adamantly searching brought me to a website with a herbal wormer. The manufacturer suggests one chemical worming per year, so I thought we would be fine seeing I had administered one in June.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say herbal wormers don’t work, but I can say that they don’t stand a chance with the types of worms out there. They might be fine for some worms, might not. But how would one tell when we know that some of the worms don’t even show in fecals?
So I might keep the herbal stuff for supplementary worming this winter, but once I run out (I have enough for two doses) I won’t be buying more.
Dee
Agh finally, read the lot…
Coincidentally I had been emailed Dougie about my pony mare. Biting her chest, loosing small flecks of skin around her face, trying to remove her tail, biting belly, up near her teats etc. No knowledge of her past history, did have a pony with really bad itch about 30 years ago and his treatment (and it worked…) was kerosene mixed with lard slathered over the bad spots, full clip and he was rugged in heavy cornsacking year round. But would prefer not going that route.
I had gone the creams and shampoos route, even cracking it and using straight malesab . With very temporary relief.
Currently she is on a herbal program/tincture and we do have issues with midges. And gets wiped with a tea tree oil - seems to bring immediate relief but again only temporary.
She had recently been wormed with Quest with me guesstimating the weight. So must look at the properly and will start the DD next week after working out weights/number of tubes.
Thanks Dougie, I had been thinking along this path but had talked myself out of it.
I didn’t really expect my horses to have any reaction to the DD, but my itchy appy has weird patches of scaley skin flaking from his neck. I’ll check out everyone more closely tomorrow. He’s black so the flakey skin is easy to see.
sighs Still no change to my guy…though it’s only been two days…He’s still itching just as crazy and still making him bleed relentless… =/ Hopefully this works…
Should I try it?
I have a horse who has developed what feels like nasty rain rot on one side of her withers. The weird thing is it started in the middle of a drought, and it is only in a tiny area maybe 3" large, and there is none around it. So of course I wonder if it really is rain rot. It is rather painful to touch. I’ve been treating it as rain rot without much success. Not sure where to go from here… Reading this thread makes me wonder if I should try DDing her?
The past 1.5 years or so I have been doing fecals instead of deworming all of the time, though I still dewormed twice a year even if the fecals were clean, just in case. Now I’m thinking maybe that was a bad idea. 
Also- is it safe to DD an IR horse with a history of laminitis? That one doesn’t have symptoms but I’m wondering if I should do her also?
Don’t let your horse be that painful… give him some antihistamines. You can use People Ones… call your vet for the dose. Poor guy… Hope he gets better soon.
I dont let him be…Or try not to… He’s already destroyed his blanket and haven’t got the money for another one…HATES being inside 24/7 with his fans on or even over night so I have a fan set up on the left side of the barn by his pasture that he can stand by… He’s already on anti-histamines but they aren’t working for him… He’s a curly so his skin is already a bit more sensitive and sighs he does seem to be a little better…Though I don’t know if it’s the cold front? or maybe the doubledose working…
Just did another DD EM on the old guy.
Over the last week - he had that worried expression - still eating though. (Before he would go off his food)
Let him out of the pasture and he headed straight for the tree to scratch is butt then over to the bush to do his belly.
So I hit him again. Couldnt risk the weight loss ( I just got him off the SPCA watch list - JK). Cant tell you how much better this horse is from what he was in August.
Will follow this with a single does and keep icthamol on his belly.
Attitude change is a big indicator for this one I am finding out.
I did DDE on my pony 12 days ago and the thick, flakey gunk that he had on his neck has improved dramatically. Both he and his pasture friend (he was DD as well) had a small round crud spot on their neck and the crud has gone from both leaving just a hairless spot.
A few days after the first DD, I saw the pony rolling - actually he was rubbing his neck like crazy. That was the only time I saw him itching.
I give the 2nd DD on Wed.
Bumping this up
As we have run BW on my guy and suspect he has a worm load issue…
I did a DD of Strongid 10 days ago and have seen his skin crusties calm down. Will probably DD with Ivermectin if I get the vet’s go ahead tomorrow.
Read this thread through a few weeks ago but will have to do it again.
Anyone know what threadworms in the eye look like??
left over equimax
Just gave the first double dose of Equimax to my gelding. He is 825lbs. I have some left over of course. Can I keep it and use it in 14 days on my second double dosage? Thanks in advance
Dee
So - I cant get the belly itch to go away. I am not so sure it can still be related to NTWs. Or can I? Ugh!
His coat is so shiny - he is old and retired and somewhat neglected in the grooming dept. He is hungry - thank goodness. And he is not spooky at all (he was with NTWs in him).
So what to do for his terribly itchy belly. He has been DD 5x with single doses in between (since the end of August).
I am just not sure if it is NTWs or something not related.
I got wormer ready - should I?
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