:lol: Does this mean I have a groupie now? Gee, I always wanted a groupie. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks J Swan and Chocomare!
I will be a HUGE groupie if this works! I OWN every skin potion ever made!
J Swan-what do you mean Google Scholar? I want to read about this.
I am so so excited that I got to this thread (a little late)
Yes! I’d bow in homage but with my back I might get stuck in that position.
I was going to send you a PM - I was at my weekly torture session - I mean jumping lesson - and I was talking to my friend about worms and ticks.
Only horse people would find worms and ticks a Very Important Thing to Discuss. Horses in her barn have been treated for Lyme - and you know that summer on my place as been less than ideal.
Anyway - we started talking about ulcers. Because her horses being treated for Lyme - well - some of them are girthy and irritable.So we talked about various ulcer meds.
Then I told her about the neck threadworms. She thought I was crazy. Or crazier than usual shall we say. I explained everything, including the instructions. Because. .drum roll please… several of her horses are kept in with loads of goop and potions because… allergies to midges.
The thing is, I guess some folks might say these horses aren’t well cared for - but they’re not. Her horses are very nice show horses, some of which sell for a great deal of money. Nice barn, good horseman, excellent management - you name it. And she’s got horses with oozy sores and itchy skin. They’re miserable - every summer.
So I guess you have two groupies. How does it feel? 
Google Scholar is where nerds go in search for light reading material.
Actually… even though you’re a blonde you might find it interesting. A vast amount of veterinary material… though I’ve not searched for hoof related work I betcha you’d be able to find something.
(I was joking about being blonde)
Oh cool! Thanks…now I have a new way to spend my time. :o
Oh dear. Now I’m all verklempt. sniff sniff :sadsmile:
I’m sure they think you’re crazy. You should have seen the looks I’ve gotten when I suggested the double dose deal to a few horsie friends around here.
Believe me… it took a lot of guts to post this on COTH. I was almost certain that I’d get PM’s by the dozens telling me what a nutjob I was and that I was promoting the poisoning of horses.
Now…: this is where it can get nutty but bear with me.
–My farrier has been thinking long and hard for many years about what NTWs do within joint tissue of a foal in light of what they already to in adult equines. Never pursued it hard and heavy until about three years ago when a client who breeds QHs started seeing contractions in foal after foal one season, thereby bringing it to her mind: Could it be that microfilia from the dam are transferring into the foal and taking up residence within the legs?
So she, with great fear, trembling and reluctance (and only because he had been her client for 15 years), asked if he’d be willing to double dose the month old foals with Equimax…wait 2 weeks and double dose again… with her coming out on the “off” week to trim a little to keep the heels lowered and to keep up on their progress. This was also done under the observation of their mutual vet.
The client chose the two worst foals, since he knew that if it didn’t work, he would have to euthanize them since they’d never be rideable. With a great gulp, the deed was done. No other “treatment” (splints, etc.) was done, except the Equimax and a wee bit of trimming. After only two rotations, both foals were totally level and decontracted.
The man then did the same with the other three foals that weren’t quite as bad but were now older. Again, all of them decontracted and came sound. All five are healthy three year olds, starting their careers under saddle with not a hiint of contraction
Granted. This is pure anecdotal and isolated “results” but it sure makes you go “Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???”
OK can we take this further?
I am very late to talking chocomare, so bear with my simple questions.
Has there been any connection to parasites and scratches?
What about parasites and hoof abscesses.
Milo has a history of abscesses that interestingly started with his ‘skin allergy’ that interestingly started when I went birkenstock herbal and stopped my regular deworming program.
Think about it-Milo NEVER had sweet itch until I stopped my regular deworming program.:sadsmile: And he NEVER had abscesses.
Anyway, I never thought about the hoof abscess connection until a little while ago-now Chocomare’s comment on contraction…
anyone? thoughts?
http://horsehints.org/Parasites.htm
I found this interesting-it offers another solution if deworming does not work…a compound made by Wedgewood Pharmacy.
Scroll down to neck threadworms.
The fact that is can cause uveitis makes me very nervous. Milo is the absolute description of this-he has the indentations on his neck…his face is not very bad-evidently the uveitis can occur after the deworming because of the die off.
This is just creepy.
Nah - those people are all emailing me telling me what a nutjob I am. You get used to it after a while.
Actually - I thought there was a study done just on that very thing. I’ll have to look it up.
LMH - I have no idea but google scholar may reveal its secrets unto you - if you know the secret password.
OK I have to stop reading now OR get a beverage.
I am officially FREAKED out beyond belief. This is SO gross.
Milo has been rubbing his eyes-NOW these THINGS are going to die off in his eyes.
I guess I need to keep a close watch on him over the next 3-5 days?
The upside is he got a zimectrin not so long ago and one before that. Hopefully that started killing some so he will be ok.
Totally creeped and freaked out.
Ew.
You wanna hear something really scary?
People can get them too.
I’m rather ignorant on river blindness. I think that’s what it’s called when humans get this thing in their eyes. I think it’s something you see in the tropics/third world countries… I know there is a lot of information on that condition; and Ivermectin used to cure it. In which case, perhaps some of that information might be helpful with Milo. (realizing that humans and horses are different and therefore you can’t draw conclusions from human medicine yatta yatta)
Steady, girl. Not a case of uveitis around these parts, and we’ve been doing this for a while
JSwan, did you say that with your head turned away from us, looking out the car window by chance:eek: ???
I know someone whose horse lost its eye to “worms”. That was all I was told. I think I get it now. The horse came from Florida.
Huh? I don’t understand. Oh - wait - I get it. That’s what the condition is called in humans. Sight returns when treated. Not the same as moon blindness in horses as far as I know.
You know though - I’ll look that up because I was reading that and thought - eww - I wonder if that is something horses get.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=517527
This is one article I was reading. Note the different species.
Here is another article that might be interesting to some of you.
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0030371&ct=1
OK I am going to bed now…enough ew for one night.
Does anyone know of any connection to acute or chronic dermatitis in humans and parasites?
If so, what would be the treatment for that?
I know someone with this condition and NO traditional meds are helping.
The suffering is unbelievable.
My dear LMH…
they package dewormer for humans.
Really, what could it hurt her?
Trust me, this thread has reminded me that I am REALLY overdue for a deworming!
And FWIW, I have gotten a fungus from a horse. Please, let’s not talk about it anymore.
any links to products?
Google Ivermectin for humans. It’s wayyyyy overpriced but I’m sure she won’t care.
So will anyone admit to having “dewormed” themselves with horse wormer? :D:lol::D:lol::eek::eek:
I’ve seen it with two of my horses: 1) was my late app, Star. Came to me in very poor condition with rainrot from head to toe. Part of her recovery was double dosing ivermectin since know one knew if she’d ever been dewormed. Of course, I also addressed her nutritionally. But I’ve never seen rainrot clear that fast and NOT return.
- My current Clyde-X, Penny. First spring after I got her, she got a raging case of scratches on those back white fetlocks. Did the traditional Nolvasan wash and antibiotic/desitin/yeast infection cream goop. It sorta cleared up but not totally. Remembered Ye Old Equimax Double Dose and figured “why not.” Shazam…scratches gone and has yet to return four years later.
AGAIN…lest any scientific/medical-type person get their panties in a wad----I know that this is purely anecdotal but, perhaps, just perhaps, us little-shmoes-in-the-backyard-horsie-world might just be on to something that the Big-White-Lab-Coated-Scientific-Smart-Types just haven’t quite caught on to.
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This is an interesting “Hmmmmmm.” If you’re game Leah, I am too. I’ll be double dosing the Tank TONIGHT!
