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Oh gawd, nasty! EW!
And you know, today is the FIRST time I have known of the connection between NTWs and fistulous withers!
That photo of a microfilarae emerging from a BLACK FLY antenna… now how tiny is THAT.
That pic is 100x magnification. Think of how many of those are around us and we never know…
How do they know that’s what that pink thing is?
Interview? shrug
It’s got the tip of the antenna on it’s icky head like it’s a cap… UGH UGH UGH more puking.
I know, that’s THE worst part of that picture. It’s like human hunters who wear the skull/skin of their buffalo kill :dead:
How about the pour-on ivermectin?
Has anybody tried the pour-on ivermectin - usually sold as cattle wormer? You’d think that if it works for those gawd-awful horn flies and warbles, it would get the microfilariae too.
Many years ago I had a vet tell me to use “insecticide”, ie, the stuff we were using as fly spray, over the neck and other areas affected by NTW - then to paint the area with DMSO to take it in. That did work in the young mare I was treating at the time - and she never had the reaction again after that.
Great Thread, folks!
Well, tell me this - one of my mares just popped up with “scratches” on one leg. It is extremely sore and got really bad really fast. Do you think I should do a 2x dose Equimax and see if it improves or goes away??? 
I haven’t done anything else yet except put some Desitin on it. I noticed a little lump for a couple weeks but I thought she’d just got a little knick and it was a bit of scar tissue. But almost overnight it seemed to have gone rampant and late last night was the first I noticed that it looked terrible. I’m really really worried about it. She is very swollen today and sore.
And JB - you are in BIG trouble for posting that link girlfriend!!! Damn woman, that burned my brain. Accccccccccccccccccccccccck
A2: It won’t hurt to try. And maybe the ichthammol goop on the surface (as others suggest in prior threads) after a gentle washing with Nolvasan Surgical Scrub and a blow dry.
Given what I’ve been reading here (I’m so glad this thread popped back up!) I think I’d do it.
And JB - you are in BIG trouble for posting that link girlfriend!!! Damn woman, that burned my brain. Accccccccccccccccccccccccck
Trust me, I was not about to be alone in my suffering with that image!
A2-I have the same problem with Hugo-popped up last week.
I just did the double dose on him last night and will keep you posted on whether it helps.
I will do the ickythammol as well!
Yup. when I ordered the Equimax, I ordered a fresh tub of Ichthammol. I expect to see bumps-a-bursting this weekend. Poor guy. I wonder how full my jar of Swat is…
I double dosed my mare almost two weeks ago and bought Ichthammol at the same time. By the time I plastered all the goop oh her she looked like she sprouted more spots. She is a POA anyway.
Went to the barn the following day. Nothing. :mad: So, I gooped her up again and again, nothing…Darn and I was so hoping to see something wiggling out. 12 bucks down the drain…lol
Well, I never looked at this thread until the other one popped up today (yesterday?) about some of you guys stalking one another :D. And, I’m totally disgusted but utterly fasinated (how can that be?) with these neck threadworms.
Definitely thinking about trying this with both boys. The one was just dewormed at the beginning of the month with TapeCare Plus (at the half dosage ie not for tapes). But after I wormed him, I noticed that it had expired back in June.
Anyways, he’s got these “sores” on his body, all over. Very round in nature… he’s always been very itchy and I’ve noticed some more tail rubbing. So, I’m gonna try the double dose of Ivermectin now and then if needed, follow up with double dose of Equimax in two weeks.
The other boy is a bit different. He always has “allergies” in the spring thru fall. Rubs tail all the time. Sheath has been checked (but it’s always just nasty). Also has uveitis. Also has a bunch of other issues. He’s at a larger boarding barn where the BO regularly worms them. Sent her an email asking when they were last dewormed and with what.
Question: How soon is too soon to do the double Ivermectin? I won’t know until Wednesday when he was wormed last…
But yuck! I’m definitely gonna be double dosing more frequently (like twice a year to be on the safe side). YUCK!
Question: How soon is too soon to do the double Ivermectin? I won’t know until Wednesday when he was wormed last…
Someone wrote to wait 7 - 10 days after the last dewormer before using a double dose of either Ivermectin or Equimax.
That person also said they recommended 10 days before using a double-dose.
If your horse has lots of lumps and bumps on the chest, midline or face, you may also want to be sure to have a medicated shampoo and ichthammol available. If there will be eruptions, it will happen about 3 - 5 days after the double dose of Equimax. wash gently with the medicated shampoo, rinse thoroughly, apply ichthamol paste to the eruptions.
If the horse is still itchy 2 weeks after the double dose, do it again.
I can see it now. All the stores and shops are going to run out of Equimax and wonder why???
LOL… I better warn the nearest store.
Thanks for all of the info. I had been using anthelicide wormer whenever my horses rubbed their tails. 7 years ago the woman at the feed store told me that thread worms came here to georgia when the pmu foals came, the feed store owner has one, and she explained thread worms to me.
Then I found out from vets that thread worms can cause ERU.
So I had already put the anthelcide in my worming program 7 years ago, and have equimax in it already, but now will recommend you double dosing to all who have itchy horses.
Thanks again!:yes:
Unless you have microscopic vision, you won’t see anything “wiggle out.” Sorry to disappoint you. :winkgrin:
update
So it’s been almost a week since I double dosed with Equimax. My mare continues to look like she is drying up in the belly midline. She is still itchy there but it is not crusty and oozy. I have not seen anything erupt on the rest of her body.
Altamont are you going to do the second double dose at 14 days? I wonder if the gets the rest of it?
It won’t look like a Habrenoma (summer sore/Florida sore), or like the Alien bursting out of the guys stomach.
What you’ll generally see is just the area drying up and healing at least in the midline. That’s what happened with The Free Horse. Nothing drastic - just healing and healthy skin and hair.
However, in my youngster, things were different. He had no dermatitis at the midline. He was just plain raw everywhere. Under the jaw, behind the ears, tailbone - just raw spots. I kept thinking the problem with the tail was ticks (I did pick a few off), or dirty sheath, etc. No matter what I did he was just miserable. I figured he was destined to be my problem horse.
All of that is gone. Lesions healed, hair growing back, no more tail rubbing. No lumps, no need for icthamol.
My field hunter really didn’t have any “problem” per se. He did get a little itchy on occasion but nothing to be concerned about. No hot spots or anything. I’ve had him the longest - always been well cared for, regular worming, good nutrition/trimming, etc.
That’s the horse that got lumps.
So much for my animal husbandry skills. :sigh:
Whoever said their vet told them PMU foals “brought it” to their area - that is not possible. These worms are prevalent in areas that are humid, and near water/stagnant water. You see it more in the tropics and the South, though evidently they are found all over the world, even in cool areas.
But - this is transmitted through biting flies - not through skin contact. PMU foals may have indeed been infected already, but this nasty worm has been a problem for generations … especially in the South/Latin America/Africa.
I’ve been reading about this nematode in humans; there are several species. What it’s done to people in Africa is just horrible. Such suffering. :no:
Adblurr02 - there was a study done in humans on the use of topically applied Ivermectin. You’ll have to search google Scholar to find it though - I didn’t save it.
So after reading this I’m still a little confused…
Have we determined a method for killing the adult worms or just the juvi’s with the double dose of Equimax?
How long will it take for the now present adult worms to die off?
Another ?
Which is preferred? Ivermectrin or Equimax? Will they both do the same thing?
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