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Is Hans using draw reins?

http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=4009

Is Hans using draw reins?

GASP!!

Ah yes, but in Holland when you’ve got two first names (Hans Peter, Jan-Willem, etc), 99% of the time you use both. He’s HP, pronounced hah-PEE. Or just call him Happy, maar geen Hans. That’s your utterly useless trivia for the day. :wink:

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Ah yes, but in Holland when you’ve got two first names (Hans Peter, Jan-Willem, etc), 99% of the time you use both. He’s HP, pronounced hah-PEE. Or just call him Happy, maar geen Hans. That’s your utterly useless trivia for the day. ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL:)

As for you Egon I asked a simple question I see the holiday has not changed your nasty attitude. Coming from the jumper world we don’t have an issue with draw reins when used correctly. BM

Great report that puts all the negative hype in perspective.

As for you Egon I asked a simple question I see the holiday has not changed your nasty attitude.

Nasty? :confused:

perhaps you need glasses.

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Great report that puts all the negative hype in perspective.[/QUOTE]

Agreed Siegi. :smiley:

Sad that some just want to complain about everything.

thanks for posting this ridge great article.:yes:

Seriously, you are on egg about a nasty attitude and you read the entire article yet your only comment is about drawreins?

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Seriously, you are on egg about a nasty attitude and you read the entire article yet your only comment is about drawreins?[/QUOTE]

I think ridge explained she/he was asking a question I’m not sure how you translate that into being nasty. Egon loves to ride people all the time and it gets boring. You don’t see draw reins used as much in dressage as you do in other disciplines or at least that has been my experience.

 Anecdotal evidence from extensive traveling throughout Germany, Holland, Great Britain, Belgium, France and the United States indicates that most of the dressage world is fed up with the drum beat of negativity, the paparazzi-style moments of "Gotcha!"    

More than fed up i’d say.
Great article, thanks for the link.

Best dressage article I’ve read in ages. Informative and objective, and takes the discussion forward instead of revelling in the mire of debate. Thank you.

Love the words from Wolfram Wittig !

“I was never really happy to say, ‘this is the German classical way.’ If this is the German classical way and we are not successful it is not the right way and we have to question that.

“If there are nations that are more successful than Germany, then it is definitely wrong to criticize the success. The right way is to ask why we don’t have success.”

It sounds like there is no turnout because he might hurt himself? Very different program.

A horse that can’t be safely turned out because it would injure itself isn’t managed QR I’m sorry. It does make you wonder - since most horses are turned out up until they hit riding age - what it is that turns them into such mental cases and when this change occurs. Funnily it must be something directly related to their monetary value at least if they are dressage horses. Interesting that horses would even notice lol
Even dangerous, firespitting Salinero must have survived turnout somehow. People are too funny.

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A horse that can’t be safely turned out because it would injure itself isn’t managed QR I’m sorry. It does make you wonder - since most horses are turned out up until they hit riding age - what it is that turns them into such mental cases and when this change occurs. Funnily it must be something directly related to their monetary value at least if they are dressage horses. Interesting that horses would even notice lol
Even dangerous, firespitting Salinero must have survived turnout somehow. People are too funny.[/QUOTE]

This is what saddens me ego trumps the best interest of the horse.

I wouldn’t even say that it’s ego… it’s a business decision, especially when you have a multi-million dollar horse.

In most other cases it’s a question of space - as in lots of places in Germany.

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I wouldn’t even say that it’s ego… it’s a business decision, especially when you have a multi-million dollar horse.

In most other cases it’s a question of space - as in lots of places in Germany.[/QUOTE]

Or flies, mud, cold, rain, hail, heat or lack of others horses around them. We are happy that our horses can decide for themselves, but to be honest with you they love their stable, their solarium their Stereo music and their jacuzi most of the time.:yes:

Horses are herd animals and grazing animals locking them in their stalls for the rest of their lives is cruel. It is ego and selfish to keep a horse locked up just because it “could” get hurt. People put their own self interest ahead of the welfare of the horse. Interestingly the horses that are worth the really big money and that would be TB stallions aren’t made to live their lives in a stall because they could get hurt. The funny thing is I’d bet more horses get hurt and or die because of being locked up 24/7 then they do being turned out 6-8 hours a day with other horses. I realize things aren’t always perfect but this is a deal breaker for me.

P.S. EGO would be buying a sport horse for 35 million or 20 million euros that is not a business decision because you would never get your money out of him. Sport horse stud fees are tiny compared to say spending that on a equally great TB stallion.

Do those who feel that lack of turnout is horrible, feel the same way about the Spanish Riding School?