Gervantus II
He was GP and I think he has a few foals around. I believe there was one eventing in the last Olympics.
http://www.canadianwarmbloods.com/stalliondetail.php?horseid=1000113
Boleem does not have 200+ foals on the ground. He didn’t even start breeding in earnest until he was 16. He competed until he was 13, then couldn’t be collected for 3 years due to an injury. I wish he did…:lol::eek:
I thought the OP was talking about criteria: 1) UL performance record and, 2) most popular/used. The first is easy to determine…the second not so much for reasons others have pointed out breeding records and/or lack of registration etc.
It would be interesting to see which in the N.A. have achieved both.
Additionally, do the 200+ mean, bred here in the U.S.? Pandora’s Box…but that would be very interesting to know.
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I constantly say that the mare owners are not going to realize what they have passed up until he is no longer available.
Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com
2007 USEF Breeder of the Year![/QUOTE]
The saddest part of getting breedings is that mare owners seem to flock to new stallions that no one knows what they will produce. When Nevada was first breeding, he was very popular, but the more he has proven to be a sire of performance winners, the fewer breedings he has gotten.
I think it was Laura Whitford (aka “LTW”) who coined the term on this forum some years back…“stallion du jour”.
Additionally, many people presume that older stallions, despite their accolades, are of the “old type”, when that is not necessarily the case. They may not get as many breedings, despite stellar performance, esp. if they are retired to breed and were not offered for breeding during competition years.
Are they super modern like they are producing now? No. But I’ve noticed that the Dutch in particular never did seem to produce super heavy types even back then. Roemer comes to mind, Rampal whom I met close and personal were such horses, as is Bo. Dutch stallions of that era were very nice types – not really “heavy” but also not see the more super modern models. Stallions of that era that still breed may still presumed to be heavy only because of their birth year, many won’t even look at them. Performance seems to be secondary to “new”.
Those stallions that are competing and high levels and can managed to be also breeding simultaneously, I would imagine would top the OP’s list…for what was wanted at that time (fashion and sport).
But I digress…
Darlyn, you should be proud. That’s a lot of babies and Nevada isn’t all that old! 
I am very pleased, and enjoying getting the updates of the babies as they grow up while taking a few years of a breather.
Ok…back to the OP.
Upper level peformance (with honors), with 200+ babies that were bred here in the U.S.
Which ones?
Or to complicate things further. U/L performance here in the U.S. with 200+ babies bred here in the U.S.
Surely All the Gold, Galoubet and Alla Czar would fit the bill off the top of my head.
H/J sires.
As does Rio Grande and Lemgo.
What did Alla Czar do for upper level competion?
I am not sure that he really had a career, but I have heard that he trained to Grand Prix dressage.
Yes, I remember Lemgo. I still have his “brochure” in a file somewhere as I was thinking about breeding to him back in 1990 with my TB mares.
Was Starman a stallion or a gelding? He was another star in sport here in the U.S. Why do I remember him as being a very sought after stallion?
Ideal had a ton of babies, but I’m not sure at all of the sport record.
Too many years, too many stallions…I’m getting old and I can’t remember…
But I do think that this is a great discussion for N.A. breeders.
probably
Popeye K
Idocus
Whoa, I didn’t see that the OP wanted stallions in NA with a performance career AND 200 offspring.
That really narrows the playing field.
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Was Starman a stallion or a gelding? He was another star in sport here in the U.S. Why do I remember him as being a very sought after stallion?
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Starman was indeed a stallion.
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Assuming I am thinking of the correct Cordini, my yearling is by Cordini. He was sold by Hilltop and gave a junior confidence until he was retired as she is now in college. They just did this piece in 12-08
http://www.myvirtualpaper.com/doc/SamInfo/SM_Dec08/2008112502/30.html[/QUOTE]Cordini was definitely alive at about noon today when I left the barn. He lives across the “aisle” from my horse. He is still owned by the teenager who is referenced in the article.
In the hunter world, if counting what can be seen on the USEF website, I think Rio Grande has the best record. But without knowing how many foals on the ground, how can one know? 3 winners out of 500 babies foaled out a given year is a lot different than 3 winners out of 20 babies put on the ground. And without the mare line statistics - impossible!
Please tell Cordini ‘Hi’
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Cordini was definitely alive at about noon today when I left the barn. He lives across the “aisle” from my horse. He is still owned by the teenager who is referenced in the article.[/QUOTE]
We bred several times to him at Hilltop, now have frozen in storage, with several fillies by him at our place.
Love the disposition! Love the talent!
Jupiter was AHSA HOY as a green hunter:yes::yes:
I don’t know how many babies Abdullah produced but I would guess that he would qualify.
Bellucci was Grand Prix, competed only a few times here in the US before an injury… and NOWHERE the numbers, ( maybe 25 all told? ) … but he was not marketted heavily either… However his 3/4 sibling Bordeaux had a fairly visible career at/near the top, and I am fairly sure he had the numbers, as he was heavily marketted , and represented the AHS at Expos etc, as Werbellin has.
SInce I had a Roemer x TB who competed very successfully nationally and regionally for many many years , into his late teens, as a 3’6" and 4’ Conf. Hunter… I think it would be very interesting to speculate whether these sires were popular for breeding due in part to their Performance careers , or because their offspring filled a “niche” - and how often in a different discipline.,…
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Jupiter was AHSA HOY as a green hunter:yes::yes:[/QUOTE]
Jupiter had very few offspring. He wouldn’t be considered a popular stallion.
