Spinoff: How do you handle anger?

There’s a big difference between being angered or frustrated by a horse (or any living thing), and acting on that anger. There’s nothing wrong with feeling that emotion—only with bad behavior resulting from it.

I can’t imagine a rider in the world who hasn’t felt anger or frustration with a horse at some time or another. Expecting human beings not to feel this emotion is completely unrealistic from a biological standpoint. But they can choose not to take it out on others, be they equine or human.

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We operate with this rule. The kids and families love it and it helps make them laugh, even though we take it seriously.

Two Minute Rule

(Reserved for Trainers, Family Members, Riders, Grooms and Horses)

If you have a bad go, you may have 2 minutes to be mad at (choose up to 2 of the following options): [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]

  • [B]Trainer[/B]
  • [B]Horse[/B]
  • [B]Client[/B]
  • [B]Mom[/B]
  • [B]Dad[/B]
  • [B]Brother[/B]
  • [B]Sister[/B]
  • [B]Self[/B]
  • [B]Son[/B]
  • [B]Daughter[/B]
[/TD] [TD]
  • [B]World[/B]
  • [B]Weather[/B]
  • [B]Arena footing[/B]
  • [B]Acts of God[/B]
  • [B]Spectators[/B]
  • [B]Officials[/B]
  • [B]Judges[/B]
  • [B]Donald Trump[/B]
  • [B]World Hunger[/B]
  • [B]Other[/B]
[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

In private you may (as needed): [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]

  • [B]Curse[/B]
  • [B]Swear[/B]
  • [B]Hold breath (*not recommended)[/B]
  • [B]Cry[/B]
  • [B]Stomp feet[/B]
  • [B]Throw self on ground[/B]
  • [B]Be silent[/B]
[/TD] [TD]
  • [B]Stew[/B]
  • [B]Fester[/B]
  • [B]Seethe[/B]
  • [B]Throw feces[/B]
  • [B]Strike[/B]
  • [B]Kick[/B]
  • [B]Bite[/B]
[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

Upon completion of your two minutes, you will be expected to (as necessary): [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]

  • [B]Pick yourself up[/B]
  • [B]Lift up your chin[/B]
  • [B]Repair broken objects[/B]
  • [B]Apologize[/B]
[/TD] [TD]
  • [B]Fix your makeup[/B]
  • [B]Take a deep breath[/B]
  • [B]Rejoin the team [/B]
[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

We will be outside waiting for you.

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Your skills in handling these situations and your emotions is no different from any other of life’s experiences. Some people will handle it better than others either because their personality is better with it, they have developed better coping skills or they have better medication;)

How I handle the situations you described now with 30+ years experience with lots of horses is different from how I would have reacted when I was a teenager!

In the kick…I most certainly would have sworn loudly and I would have been angry…with myself. For being in a position that got me kicked when I know better. I have been kicked before but it happens rarely now because I know better and am careful and have the skills to avoid it happening. Those are skills you can develop. If it happened now…it would be a result of my own stupidity and not paying attention. No one to blame but me.

With spooking…I just ignore it. It is a telling sign that I do not have my horse on my aides. And I will reach into my “tool chest” and ride my horse to get him more on the aids. Or agree with him that it is damn boring in the ring and find him something more interesting to do :). If I’m having a bad day…for any reason…and I don’t think I can keep my emotions in check. I don’t ride. If my horse needs to be worked…I find someone else to do it or put him out in a field or let him loose school in the ring. My job is to pay attention to my horse but also be aware of my own limits.

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I never get angry when I ride…I used to as a teenager. I used to get so mad and smack my horse and all that jazz.

When I was 20 and living in Scotland I saw Pippa Funnel give a lecture, she said the most important part of riding is to never, ever get mad at your horse. She said events can be won and lost on the way you handle your frustrations at home. Horses are our partners, if they are not working the way you want them to, stop and figure out another way to explain it. I never forgot her words.

These days I am just thankful for having horses and everything I can do with them. I just don’t get angry when I ride, I think about the questions and how to change what I am doing to get desired results. Come to think of it I don’t really get that angry ever anymore lol

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Very honestly - I do not get mad on a horse. If I get scared/hurt etc I absolutely swear - many many lessons have been punctuated by “holy $#*!” as my mare turns into a rodeo queen, but I really don’t get mad.

If I come to ride or work with a horse on a day that I’m grumpy and I find that it’s translating to my work with them - being too demanding, too quick to correct, not giving enough credit/rewarding enough etc. - I just quit for the day. 99% of the time, I can come to the barn in any kind of foul mood from work, and by the time I get one little nicker and touch a horse nose I am totally relaxed and good to go. On the odd days I’m still tense or grouchy, I just groom or handwalk or bathe or toss a carrot in the feed tub and leave her in peace til I can sort my own garbage out. If it’s a lesson day, I tell my coach what’s going on - and usually that turns into a walk on a loose rein for 25 mins while I talk things through and feel better. Good for me, good for the horse.

Anger doesn’t have a place on a horse, or working with a horse on the ground. If you need to correct a horse, it must be done objectively and with the goal of educating and helping the horse understand, not venting your anger or frustration.

We really have a tendency, as people, to anthropomorphize intention into our horses where it really does not exist. Horses respond to stimuli, and they react to pressure. They don’t have the capacity to understand doing something “dirty” or “being a jerk” or anything else that we like to read into them. If you approach them from that angle, it’s really hard to get angry - if they do something wrong, they are either reacting to something - whether we see/hear/experience it or not - (horses don’t spook “for no reason” - but we might not be able to understand the reason), or we have asked them to do something and they don’t understand, so they try and maybe they do the wrong thing, or maybe they get frustrated or scared and act out.

The point is - if you are getting mad on horseback or at your horse, try to look at things differently and approach the situation from a place that precludes that anger. If you can’t do that - then really, just get off the horse. You cannot ride or train effectively when you are mad. Being mad at a horse for misbehaving doesn’t make sense - especially if it “needs to be ridden” - which says to me that it’s fresh/hot/hasn’t been worked, in which case - ride more effectively. Put the horse to work and use that energy and occupy the brain. The misbehaving will go away.

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I can’t say I’ve ever felt true anger when riding, intense frustration and extreme disappointment in a horses attitude or behavior. But I have found that the majority of time when a horse misbehaves its for a reason, often times if it’s not because they don’t understand it its because something is hurting or bothering them.
recently I was feeling frustration with my OTTb because he had started out with promise this summer at shows but recently he was getting worse and worse about his left lead. He would get really anxious about picking it up, and working with him on it only made it worse and got to a point where we just had to settle for an ugly lead change or even a flying lead change and move on.
Well last weekend I decided to check to see if his saddle was still fitting right, as he had had chiro done and overall seemed fine with no muscle soreness. Well as i took the saddle to put it on his back i felt a sharp poke. Low and behold the Screw that held the panel to the tree had worked its way out and was loose and quite pokey. Obviously it wasn’t drawing blood, but it was almost poking thru a a thick foam pad, actually leaving marks in the foam to the point the pad is damaged. With him being a thin skinned OTTB, I can only imagine the irritation and probably sharp intermittent pain he was feeling. I feel horrible I didn’t check sooner. and even worse for feeling like he was just being a bratty greenie. Had I taken my frustration out on him i would never have solved anything.
While it isn’t always easy I like to assume that all my horses want to be good and want to behave so I try to set them up for success…

Put the horse away (or give it to someone else) and be done for the day. Nothing productive comes of anger around animals. Better to deal with whatever issue another day if you can’t control your emotions.

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There are days when I have some irrational anger. It might be a bad day at work, or just before I get a migraine(my auras can come with some funny brain changes). If I am not able to let it go, I put the horse away and start over later or on another day. Count to 10, 20, 50… higher. If you can’t pack up your anger and allow your self to deal with the horse and why they are acting the way they are you need to put them away.

If if I can be in a decent enough place, perhaps I will climb off and longe or do ground work for a bit to see if I can work but, a when I am having a truly bad day I just take myself away from having to train animals and pet the cat or read a book.

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I’ve found that after getting dumped, a long walk back to the barn gives one plenty of time to think about what they did wrong, how the situation was their fault, and what to do in the future to prevent it from happening again. :lol: Getting mad at a horse for being a horse does nothing to further mutual understanding, partnership, and positive training.

If I’ve been frustrated, I take it out on myself after a ride and proclaim that I am no good, will quit riding, and won’t even take up tennis because I suck so badly.

Mostly I just sulk and whine and mope for a while. Then I look for some inspiration to help me get over it and get my shit together. Either I watch videos of horsemen and -women I respect and admire, or I read a book, or I look back on my blog and see how far I’ve come with a horse, and then I pick myself up and get back to it.

Watching Buck Brannaman deal with bad actors in clinics gave me a great visual of how to be firm, set boundaries, but not get angry.

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If I’m riding and feel myself getting frustrated, I take a moment to see if it’s the way I’m asking for something that is not getting the desired response. Maybe I’m not asking right, or maybe I’m asking for something he can’t do, or doesn’t know how to do. I then try to step back and ask for it in a different way. I try to remember that most of the time these animals I ride don’t disobey out of spite and I try to see their “defiance” as just a miscommunication.

Now if a horse is being truly unruly, I have gotten to the place in my riding where I can just say “OK, today we won’t push it. There’s no rush, no pressure, and tomorrow is a new day.” When I was younger I would see this as “giving up” or “letting the horse win” and I’d consider myself a failure. It caused me a lot of grief and frustration because I’d be comparing myself with other riders, worrying about shows and impressing my trainer… etc. But as usual, with age comes wisdom and I’ve learned to let go and just enjoy the fact that I can ride and be around horses again. I’ve learned to intellectualize each experience and place value on what actually matters. There isn’t a rush, just enjoy the moment, and do what makes you happy. I try to practice zen and mediation and just being, without putting undue and unproductive pressure on myself for no reason.

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We all get angry. It happens. We all KNOW there is no place for anger or any emotion (besides empathy) in horse training, but I will admit that I have felt anger and frustration while dealing with horses and have at times regretted how I handled a situation. I think it happens to the best of us. We can always be better, and I like to think that I have become a better horse “trainer” (hello, I am very much an amateur :lol:) over the years.

Many great clinicians draw on their own mistakes and revelations to teach others. George Morris (for a cliche example) will admit that he was (and sometimes still is if he isn’t careful) a “driller” and too tough on his horses. No doubt he probably emphasizes the need to have no anger but a lot of empathy because he has personally experienced the dichotomy of the results depending on which emotion you bring with you to your training (i.e. anger= unwillingness or the undesired response from the horse vs. empathy= desired response and confidence from the horse).

Now, what to DO about it and how we can control our very innate human emotions while dealing with horses is the challenging part…

What helps me is to first acknowledge my emotion. If I am struggling with something, my horse is responding the wrong way, and I feel myself getting frustrated, I take a walk break. I try to pinpoint what MY response was to my horse. We always focus on the horse’s response to us, why not also focus on our response to our horse? Then, I try to understand what the horse did to make me respond that way. Then, what can I do to fix it? I will literally visualize what I need to do differently, both physically and mentally to achieve a different result. A lot of sports psychologists recommend visualization for competition anxiety. You could kind of equate frustration/anger to competition anxiety (a lot of the physiological responses probably overlap and your horse probably senses those), so why not use the same strategy to calm yourself while practicing/training? Then I try again! Repeat three times and if by the third, it’s not getting better then call it quits. If the horse NEEDS exercise but is misbehaving so much that a relaxing walk in the field/trail also won’t be successful (or are you are in an emotional state that you acknowledge will easily trigger an overly aggressive/angry reaction), then turn him/her out in the pasture, lunge them, or hand walk for 30 minutes.

Great discussion given the recent events!

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99% of “bad behavior”, ie the spooking OP mentioned, can be addressed by dispassiobately ignoring it and asking for what you DID want again.

Most of the time what happens when the horse acts up is the rider becomes afraid and the fear turns to anger. But if you’re not scared you can quietly sit it out and ask again.

If something came close to kicking me in the face though, i would DEFINITELY back it up pretty damn hard. Oh HAYULL no.
And I pretty much never get aggressive with a horse.

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Anger, frustration, ANY emotion (including happiness) is human nature. Some people are better equipped to handle frustration, either personal or at someone or something, better than others.

I had it drilled in to me as a kid by my trainer- not to express anger, frustration at the animal. And I’m a hot head. When I was a lesson kid and boarder- our trainer used to tell lesson kids "I will rip you off that horse if I see you ripping his face [insert act of anger here].

I have used that same quote to kids (and an adult or 2).

I try to end something on a good note and put them away or turn them out. Try to give them a pat, even if I don’t feel like it.

Then I go have a cookie or a margarita… or both.

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Whoever said above that we choose our emotions is wrong. :winkgrin: We do not choose our emotions but we do choose how to deal with them.

Whoever said above that they’ve never felt anger while riding, is also wrong. :winkgrin: But anger is often redirected for several reasons, the foremost being that it is most threatening when directed at the source. (sort of like if you’re angry with your boss, you take it out on your hubby).

I think the first thing we need to do as riders is to train ourselves to recognize our emotional state and then plan and act accordingly. If one is in a bad or edgy mood, do not go out and train. Go out and take a trail ride or do some loose rein work. If you must train, then keep reminding yourself of your mood and how it may affect the horse.

Knowing your emotional state at any given moment, allows you to control your behavior.

It really is all so simple.

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One time when I was a young one, my horse and I were just not getting it one day re: lead changes. At my wits end, I yanked on his mouth out of frustration. That’s when I caught myself, cooled him out on a loose rein and got off for the day. We weren’t getting it and it just wasn’t going to happen that day and if I kept pushing him it would do much more harm than good. I cried while untacking him and putting him away because of what I did. That horse was a saint and I’m glad he did not hold my horrible lapse in judgement against me.

Now if I feel myself getting to that point again, I instantly just stop and either cool out and call it a day or take a short trail before getting off. Then in my next lesson I bring up the issue to my trainer and we work through it together.

Riding is also my therapy but if I’m having a bad day or issues in other aspects of my life, I go on a trail ride or just do some light arena work. I don’t do a hard workout or try to work on new things because I know that I am already in a fragile state mentally and I don’t want to risk losing my cool on my horse.

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Experience goes a long way to solving a lot of the frustration that results in anger. We ALL get frustrated, we all do things in anger that we regret. If you don’t admit you have been this person, quite frankly I put you in the sociopath or terminally stupid slots and try to avoid you at all costs!

What you want to be is the person who learns from your frustration fails. I often joke-but-not-really that I wish I had a do over on my first 3 horses. When my tool kit of training tools was empty, the only thing left at the bottom of the bag is frustration, and lets not kid ourselves, in my early days my tool kit only had about 2 items in it. Frustration came fast and anger generally followed it.

But in the case of anything, I try to break it down. When it came to the kick, this is what I would ask myself:

  1. Does my horse truly respect my space on the ground?

  2. I mean REALLY respect it. Do I lead him or does he lead me? (hint, about 95% of the horses lead their owners, if your horse regularly makes dives for grass there’s your answer)

  3. Did I set him up for success? He’s fresh, he’s frustrated. Did I watch what he and I were doing 100% of the time, or was I distracted? #putyourphoneaway

  4. was I holding the lead properly and keeping it the appropriate length for handwalking?

  5. The 2 second rule, did I apply it? (hint, you didn’t - you backed him up for more than 2 seconds). He kicked you. Even if you did a lot of things wrong and it was mostly your fault, he does have to pay for your sins. They ALWAYS end up paying for our sins one way or another. You should feel bad about that, btw. That’s YOUR punishment. But for 2 seconds after he kicked you, you had a window to correlate action with reaction. He kicks, you slam down on that chain, growl at him, whatever is the form of punishment that is “his” punishment . This depends on the horse, I had one that if I said “ahem” he nearly died. Smacking him would have been counterproductive. I’ve had others that could have cared less if I growled at them, some more physical response was called for. You need them to realize the action was wrong and the penalty outweighed the benefit. You don’t want to make the penalty so severe that they are too terrified to even make the correlation.

6 When 2 seconds are over and you didn’t do anything, then curse, because that is really your only option left. The window closed. At this point I generally say things in a monotone or sing songy voice like you mf piece of sh*t you are not even making a can of alpo, so help me god I’ll put you in a generic dog food can. It makes me feel better, it drains the anger (at my stupidity)

  1. Then I assess what I did wrong and try not to repeat it.

When it comes to spooking, my nature is not to ignore it. I’ve recognized I’m not a patient person and there will be a finite amount of times I can wash/rinse/repeat/ignore and still productively train my horse. So I know “Me” and I’ve adapted accordingly. If a horse wants to spook at point X in the arena, I don’t truly “ignore” it, but my path to ignoring is to do something less pleasant than just trotting past X. If that is an issue, I will work on a shoulder or a 10m circle. I find the exact point where X is NOT spooky (10 feet away?) and I start there, then I push a bit closer, but just a bit. If the horse starts to react, I ask for something else, shoulder in, circle, etc. When they relax, I relax. The goal is, hey, we can work on the hard stuff OR we can do some easy things in a place you would rather not. I may not get a relaxed spook free trot 2’ from X, but if the spook started 10’ away and we close the line to 6’ that day, it’s a win. I also fully expect that day two may start at 10’ again, but I expect to get to 6’ more quickly and maybe finish at 4’, day three should improve on that (you know until we have one of those 2 steps forward, 1 step back days that WILL happen)

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I had a horse who was super spooky and I used to think this too. ‘There is no reason for you to spook!’ Then I remembered that horses can sense things we can’t. Perhaps he could smell a raccoon in the bushes that I couldn’t see. Or he felt a slight vibration in the ground from a far away train I couldn’t feel.

My point is that there may be a good reason - you just can’t sense it in the same way.

Changing my thinking helped change my reaction to his spooking. But I still found it super annoying…and eventually sold him to someone less bothered by it.

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I don’t get angry on horseback but I can get scared/rattled pretty easily, which can be just as destructive and manifest in the same unproductive or unfair reactions.

If the situation is one where things continue to escalate then I need to find a small good note and be done for the day.

If I think I can work through it I run through a list in my head: Am I giving the reins even if for the briefest moments, are my legs relaxed or am I clamping, is my seat allowing the horse to go forward. Once an initial moment has passed one of these three things often come into affect and I am the one perpetuating the situation. The better I get at self-awareness the easier it is to breathe and move on. If I’m not in a good headspace I walk and do some breathing exercises until I can let go of tension or mentally work through the scary situation that happened.

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I think the distinction between true anger and intense frustration or disappointment is huge. Often times they can feel similar, or anger is a result of not knowing how to deal with them. Honestly, IME, time, and having a good role model is the best way to address these with riders, myself included. I know when I was younger there are emotions I wish I would have controlled better, but over time, as with life, the older you get the more aware you are of your reactions. Riding is probably one of the BEST Self Awareness exercises anyone could go through. If you are having trouble controlling anger while riding, it’s probably time to take a step back and look at yourself and why you are reacting the way that you are.

Now when I over react to anything , horse, human, TV commercial, I step back and ask myself what is really going on that I had such a strong reaction. Often times its something else bugging me that I have let ruminate for a bit and need to deal with that before moving forward.

Obviously this is a long term process. In the heat of the moment, if you can’t control yourself, just hand the reins to someone who can. It’s not worth it. Corrections have to made without emotion to be effective and understood by the horse. Over time, its the bad corrections made in anger, that take the most effort and time to fix since they mostly lead to problems, not solutions…

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There aren’t too many things that made me MAD or ANGRY when it comes to my horses. But from time to time, I suppose it actually helps me.

For example, when I was putting the first rides on my horse Shotgun, he humped up and had some bucking episodes around the 5th ride. It had been a while since I saddle trained a horse, so to my own fault, he caught me off guard the first time and we weren’t in a good spot (again, my fault) and so I think I subconsiously bailed. Or fell off. Whatever you want to call it. Remounted and did what I had to do to end on a good note.

The next day, he tried bucking again. I still can’t say that I was necessarily angry at him nor took out my anger on him, but I do believe a bit of anger helped me stay on. He pretty much bucked across the pasture and I just remember saying swear words in my head as I vowed to NOT let this _____ buck me off again. In a sense, I think the anger kept me determined enough to stay on. No, I didn’t go ape$hit on him when I got him stopped or anything, but I made him work and let him know that was not acceptable.

For some reason, I vividly remember harnessing the anger to turn it into determination and use it to my advantage. So I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing. Emotions are normal - as humans we are going to get them. It’s how you choose to control those emotions.

If you need to walk away to calm yourself, do it. Inaction is always going to be better than the wrong action.

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