"Stallions don't belong at horse shows"

I agree that handling, and management play a role in successful ‘gentlemen’ stallions. As a teen I worked at a small Arabian farm that had 2 awful stallions. One was downright MEAN and a biter. No wonder since he was kept in total isolation and worked irregularly. Their other stallion (while being ridden by his AA owner in a bosal) mounted a GELDING in a warm-up at an Arab breed show. That clueless woman had no business owning stallions, much less trying to breed or show them. Neither of her stallions had successful foal crops.

The other bad stallion owner situation is when a machismo man gets a horse and decides that as a manly man, he must ride a stallion. I see this with dog owners too for some reason - as if removing the gonads of their male animals also impacts their own personal gonads? Makes zero sense to me. Anyway, these guys don’t care if their horse has poor ground manners or is difficult to handle, they like having something to fight with - it makes them feel more manly. These inexperienced idiots are usually responsible for some weird backyard breeding choices and their poorly trained horses are the ones that give stallions a bad name.

I’ve also seen stallions who had no idea the wedding tackle they had dangling between their legs. One was an Andalusian who was just never gelded, but never bred and was a super great jr/ammy horse. Just an all-around sweetheart and successful dressage horse.

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For some reason this is making me sing the old Confederate Railroad song in my head…

Yeah, and I like my women just a little on the trashy side.
When they wear their clothes too tight and their hair is dyed.
Too much lipstick and, ah, too much rouge
Gets me excited, leaves me feeling confused
And I like my women just a little on the trashy side.

Your stallion sounds like a character – in a good way. :slight_smile: And I agree, it’s the people you have to watch out for. They can make some bad decisions.

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I always said that he preferred coloured women. What can I say… the first love of his life was an appaloosa LOL.

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I had to laugh. You are so right. We had some fool of a man come out to ride the school horses at the local barn and asked for a stallion and announced he would ONLY ride a stallion. He was politely persuaded to leave. And not come back. face palm face palm…

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My Fjord stallion can be ridden by anyone; man, woman or child. He has been showing since he was 4 and is going strong at age 19. There is no fighting with him; he has a job and he knows what it is. I give a great deal of credit to letting him live as a horse his entire life. He has always lived in a field with mares and foals. He does a good bit of babysitting as the weanlings stay with him at weaning time. He could care less about mares at the horse show. Half the time people don’t even notice he is a stallion, much less a regular breeding stallion with 50 foals on the ground.

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Our last stallion preferred to be turned out with the geldings.
We hand bred early, then turned him out with them later in case some may not have caught earlier.
The mares were mean to him and, once they were all settled, he would stand by the fence, wanting back with his geldings.
He then spent the rest of the year with them, including while hand breeding.

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One of our Thoroughbred stallions had been going to Pony Club lessons for months with our 14 year old daughter…not a peep or an issue… EVER…until a PC mother noticed his “equipment”…fuzzy balls…and had a fit!! “you never said he was a stallion”!! No… and no one ever noticed or asked!! After siring some really nice “sport” foals, we gelded him and sold him as an “A” show hunter!! “Some” stallions are like that…and those should be breeding…not the raving maniac ones that are dangerous!!

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BO hired an “instructor” who fudged her background. She moved her gelding to the farm. BO put him out with the geldings. My horse has always been the alpha. They got organized and ran him out of the field though electric fence in less than an hour. He wasn’t an actual gelding, he was an actual cryptorchid. She knew he needed surgery and refused it because it cost the same as dealing with complications in the future. She insisted he had to be turned out with other horses. They left.

BO bred Gypsies for a few years. She had a terrific stallion. She moved him from his own paddock and turned out with his harem. He was quiet and easy to work with and never showed an inclination to escape.

Trainer John Lyons said the only difference in training stallions is that it takes about 10 times the number of repetitions.

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We do arabians, and there are junior to ride stallion classes and nobody even thinks about it. My dear friend used to take 2 mares and a stallion to all day tie to your trailer shows. She’d tie the mares on one side, the stud on the other, and there they stayed for 12 hours of showing.

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For those debating the ability of stallions to be good citizens, this is a great little story. My print magazine has pictures of him and he is just the sweetest looking old man.
http://harnessracingfanzone.com/enchanting/

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That was a really nice story, of a really special horse.

Thank you.

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Agreed but I will say having worked at a few breeding establishments in the long ago past, standardbreds included, I found the standardbred breed to have by-and-large the most stoic and level headed individuals regardless of sex. Whether or not it’s because of what they’re asked to do, their genetics or that so many are owned by individuals and/or family members, small partnerships that often do not have multiple horses so that they get more individualized treatment…I dunno; but, I wasn’t surprised by the story at all. Still proof that testicles and testosterone doesn’t have to dictate the behavior.

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I agree, having participated in endurance rides, 200 km in two days, twice, on a wonderful big standardbred trotter.
She had the most steady, always happy and accommodating mind of any horse I ever rode, a joy to work with.

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I had a cute little plain bay mustang mare that I did lower level eventing with and was usually stalled with my trainer’s barn at the venue. I trailered myself as I had an LQ and didn’t have to hotel it. However, my trainer’s stallion decided my horse was his one true love. How he singled her out I’ll never know because she was not in heat, they weren’t stalled next to each other, and didn’t interact or come into contact at all. He ignored all the other mares at the event, however, when he saw her coming toward our stabling area, he would be whinnying and carrying on and just making a jerk out of himself. He was just gaga over her for some reason. She couldn’t care less and ignored him, go figure. :cool:

Totally agree about Standardbreds. Worked with them a long time ago and love their generally kind nature and try. There was one mare at this farm whom everyone loved and it was always a special occasion when she returned to the farm after the race meet.

Having been around them since before I could walk, yeah. They are the best. You will have your odd…well…oddball…but generally speaking they are the sanest breed I have ever been around. I can’t speak highly enough about them, honestly.

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Stud is the name of a breeding farm, not a stallion.

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After i had to put down my beautiful mare, i moved my other horse into her stall at Golden Gate Park Stables, but i had to geld him first. It saddened me immensely to watch his musculature and extreme shine diminish. But he stayed ‘fancy’ enough to be a nice park horse. I love stallions, they are excitingly beautiful. I currently have none, but that’s not to say i won’t again someday. Just last week i brought in four more mustangs …ages 12-13, three of which were all range studs a dozen-ish years until they were captured and gelded… and are now copacetic, civilized, non-combative geldings. Fortunately they get to keep their dense bones, though a lot of their muscles are not as beefy.

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Late to this thread, but it seems the title should be “People who don’t know how to manage stallions should not be at horse shows”.

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If I ever did that to my stallion he’d lay down and die.

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The most notorious “oddball” among them would undoubtedly have to be Nevele Pride! The only person Pride liked was his groom, and even he had to keep his guard up.