I came across this video of Sir Wanabi today. I am amazed that a stallion could have such a sweet temperament.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwYYBUtqjFU&list=UU3cKt_noiPUmsCOQRJkAt7g&index=1&feature=plcp
We should start a list of stallions that are known to have a good disposition for amateur riders.
I always find it funny that so many stallions have the “fire breathing dragon” reputation… very cute video, very nice stallion, but not abnormal 
I LOVE the temperaments on my three boys… they are ALL the type that you can put out of the field, toss a kid on, and let them enjoy the ride. I actually think that the 3 stallions I have currently are probably in the top 5 as far as temperaments go, in all the horses I’ve owned.
The “R” line is really notorious for throwing good temperaments, I’ve had two Redwine’s and a Rubino Bellissimo, and their temperaments were identical (out of three VERY different mares). :yes:
I have never met Pablo, but I have a coming 3 y/o by him and he is the sweetest thing in the world. My friends GP horse is by him and he has a wonderful personality as well.
I can jump on him in the pasture and ride him with a halter and lead rope with out any issues. Only problem is that he is so big! 16.3 at the withers and 17 at the rump. (have to monkey up on the xc jumps to mount in the pasture) I didn’t believe he was that big when I picked him up, but low and behold he is. (Measuring stick with a level.)
He takes everything in stride and is very sensible. I have ridden several of his siblings (same dam different sire) and he is the best of them all, which I attribute to Pablo.
Contester II by Contender x Landgraf…stellar disposition which he passes to all of his offspring. Sweet, sweet boy!
Personally I don’t know anyone who keeps a stallion that has a bad disposition…are you just advertising for certain stallion owners?
I can speak to first had experience with Escapade. He is like a big giant puppy dog. When we went to Fl on vacation, I brought my daughter and two of her friends to Barrington Hill for a day trip. I was so excited to get an opportunity to ride him. He led on a loose lead, stood like a soldier to be groom and tacked and we hacked all over the farm with other mares. All during breeding season. My daughter and her friends also got to hack him. I don’t think he has one mean bone in his body. I agree that most stallions are not fire breathing dragons but Escapade’s laid back, what ever you want to do, disposition was a breath of fresh air for me… and so far all three of my foal by him have been the same way
These are a few pictures from our visit. I think this was the second or third time I had ridden in 2 1/2 years after being hit by a drunk driver. He really was sucha gentleman and took good care of me. I also had to include a picture of Escapade moonlighting in his modeling career. Stallion or not, I don’t know many horses that would want someone in a wedding dress with crinoline and stilettos up on them LOL
Personally I don’t know anyone who keeps a stallion that has a bad disposition
Oh I do … :rolleyes: … but short of someone going to visit and getting up close and personal with him, they arent going to know because the video footage sure wont show it …
I sent Panoramic away to “school” for a few weeks and I kept hearing how everyone loved him there. He “didnt have a mean bone in his body” and “could he stay for awhile longer?!” But - when he first arrived at my place, and the mares were walking by him and stabled across from him, he went absolutely frantic for the first few days. He didnt understand how mares could be so close to him and he wasnt breeding them. Now - he just hangs out and nickers to his favorites as they come by and watches to see who is coming in next …
Guaranteed Gold is there now for a few weeks and same thing. They adore him and said he is so quiet and mellow its “like leading the dog around for a walk” when they turn him out and bring him in. And funnily enough, out of all the mares that come by his stall several times a day, he deep in his throat nickers to all of them when they come by but he goes gaga over the retired GP mare who is heavily in foal, every time SHE goes by. He’s picked the best mare in the barn to covet - good boy! 
Its really nice to hear what other people are saying about your stallions when they are away from home and they see this is how they behave day in and day out on a consistent basis … … with no “prep” or sanitization or editing required … 
I think - for the most part - due to the socialization our show and Sport Horse stallions have - being housed in the same barns with the mares, turned out beside the mares, shown among mares and handled like a normal horse for the most part, they are very much a part of the overall herd, and understand breeding duties as opposed to stallion duties. All of my stallions have always been turned out in their paddocks beside the mares, separated by a 10’ alleyway and I have NEVER had an issue. They all hang out together on their respective fence lines and I think it makes for happier, well adjusted stallions
And I think where stallions get such a bad rap is when you look at how SB and TB stallions in race breeding facilities are managed. Totally segregated, only seeing the mares during breeding time so they know when X and Z happens, and they turn left, they are about to jump on a mare’s back and it consumes them. Years ago I was going to lease a very well known TB stallion that came from a very reputable TB breeding facility and when he arrived and was put into the main barn that also happened to have a mare in foal across from his stall, he literally went berserk and was slamming into walls, charging the front of his stall with a full erection the whole time. He didnt understand how he could be 10-15 feet away from a mare and not be expected to breed her. He wasnt a bad stallion, per se, but he was never allowed to understand how to be a GOOD stallion and co-exist peacefully with the mares and THAT, in my opinion, is how so many of them get bad reputations. Not through inherent bad temperaments - but from man made problems that have been created with them
And yes there are some lines that are known to have “tricky” temperaments. Ribot, Storm Cat, etc come to mind but you wonder as well - were they simply super sensitive stallions that if handled by a Sport Horse person and allowed to be part of the herd from Day 1, would they have behaved and acted far differently then they did?
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These are a few pictures from our visit. I think this was the second or third time I had ridden in 2 1/2 years after being hit by a drunk driver. He really was sucha gentleman and took good care of me. I also had to include a picture of Escapade moonlighting in his modeling career. Stallion or not, I don’t know many horses that would want someone in a wedding dress with crinoline and stilettos up on them LOL[/QUOTE]
That is SO cool to be able to ride a stallion that you breed to! I would love to be able to ride every stallion I breed to, but I’m sure it’s not going to ever happen! Lucky you!
Much of it is breeding. If you are breeding for a riding horse, you don’t want a battle every step of the way.
TBs are bred for speed – period, so disposition is never even considered. If the horse has a disposition like Satan but can run, they will breed him (or her).
But horses like QH’s as an example (I’m talking about working ranch QH’s) are expected to be good, polite cowhorses when under saddle…then often in the spring they are just turned out with a band of mares.
I read that Shelia Varian used to jump on the back of her first stallion Bey El Bey bareback and with a halter and ride down to the mare band. He would tell her who was ready to breed, they would return to the barn, then bring the mare(s) up one by one for him to cover.
Can’t say I’d trust my stallion to do that :eek:, but that just shows how kind and polite a stallion CAN be…with the right breeding and management.
TrueColours: there is a difference between disposition and sexuality. A stallion in November can be very different from a stallion in May, when their hormones are at higher levels, and mare odors have changed too.
It is a gross oversimplification to assume a stallion with a high (or low) libido has a bad (or good) disposition.
People are constantly commenting on Amazing’s disposition…they really do have preconceived notions as to how stallions are. Here is my fire breathing dragon after his 3 week stint at ERC getting frozen semen done:
and my favorite picture of us
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People are constantly commenting on Amazing’s disposition…they really do have preconceived notions as to how stallions are. Here is my fire breathing dragon after his 3 week stint at ERC getting frozen semen done:
and my favorite picture of us[/QUOTE]
This is one on my favorite pictures too. It is very imortant to me that a stallion be kind and sweet as that is what I am hoping to produce in the foals. I hope our Amazing foal is every bit a nice as Amazing and I would love to plan a trip to get to meet him in person too one day.
TrueColours: there is a difference between disposition and sexuality. A stallion in November can be very different from a stallion in May, when their hormones are at higher levels, and mare odors have changed too.
It is a gross oversimplification to assume a stallion with a high (or low) libido has a bad (or good) disposition.
Granted, but especially with Guaranteed Gold who I have known since he was a weanling and have owned for the last 4 years and leased for 3 years before that, he doesnt change. The behaviour is the same throughout breeding season as it is through non breeding season. Here or at someone else’s farm - it doesnt matter … and THAT is the disposition that he is passing on to his offspring as well. The unflappable, laid back, “life is good” temperament that people love in his offspring …
AND - he has a VERY high libido as well. There is NOTHING “serene” about his outlook in the breeding shed! :lol: He is very much a gentleman during breeding season and courting a mare, but he very much knows his job, gets it done and life then goes on …
I’ve known a lot more well behaved and nicely mannered stallions than I have ones that were not. In general I’ve known more well behaved and nicely mannered horses than ones who are not though.
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This is one on my favorite pictures too. It is very imortant to me that a stallion be kind and sweet as that is what I am hoping to produce in the foals. I hope our Amazing foal is every bit a nice as Amazing and I would love to plan a trip to get to meet him in person too one day.[/QUOTE]
come any time for a ride!
My stallion Legaczy has an exceptionally easy disposition, whether it is breeding season or not. He was raised by and is handled by amateurs and lives just like any other horse in my 30 horse facility.
Oh trust me, they are out there, in spades! Maybe not in spades in the WB world, but there are some nasty TB stallions kept intact purely for breeding value, and there are PLENTY of people in “backyard” situations who keep some gawd-awful nasty stallions.
…are you just advertising for certain stallion owners?
If I liked a particular stallion a lot, especially if I had a foal by him, I’d be doing the same thing :yes:
LOL, I know one that is led around all the time with a cotton lead rope and politely waits for his handler to tell him it is okay to climb on the dummy when it is time to breed. And then he does the job efficiently and with continued good manners. He also gives “pony rides” on occasion to kids, and is a quiet and reliable trail horse.
I remember a conversation a few years ago with a well known German inspector for one of the larger registries who commented that they don’t see too many stallions anymore with bad dispositions. Word gets around pretty fast in Germany when a stallion is a royal PIA, and he quickly falls out of favor with the breeders.
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Personally I don’t know anyone who keeps a stallion that has a bad disposition…are you just advertising for certain stallion owners?[/QUOTE]
I am the owner of Sir Wanabi and, I just want to say that Brutus is not doing advertising for my stallion, she just wanted to share the video, like a lot of people did on facebook when I post it there. I can do my advertising myself. And yes, she does own a very nice filly by my stallion.
Also, the reason for Sara to ride Sir Wanabi is, Sara had cancer last year and her dream was to ride him, I made her dream come true :yes:
Sandra
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