Stock ties for the neck-challenged, please?

Please help me look more like a Tall German Man than I do-- a 5’1" woman-shaped woman with Not Enough Neck. Also, I come from HunterWorld where we wore ratcatchers with collars. I think I’d look better with less fluff between the boobs and head than the traditional stock tie produces.

I think I need a pre-tied, minimalist design. If you can picture my problem and a nice solution, would you please send me in the right direction?

I thought this one might be a good starting point.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/487850749/economy-custom-tie-without-pin?ref=shop_home_active_21

Can you think of others that are even less 3-D?

Thank you.

Flat one; http://www.equistylequalitystocks.com/apps/webstore/products/show/3897666

I don’t think stock ties are required anymore as long as you have a shirt with a “stand up” collar. Might be worth checking out …less fuss and a cleaner look.

have you considered skipping the tie altogether and instead wearing one of the show shirts with an embellished or ruffled collar and placket? There are shirts with pretty smocking, tuxedo-style pintucks, etc. which look great without the bulk.

Probably not appropriate with a shadbelly if you compete at that level, but it’s an option for the rest of us!

Ditto no stock tie required. We just showed this weekend and skipped the stock tie. If you want the look then get one of the new shirts mentioned above. We just put a nice stock pin on the stand up collar

Thank you for the update.

Being way old** I have a bunch of striped rat catchers that I want to wear underneath**…and so I need a white pre-fab stock tie***. And I do like covered wrists of some sort.

** Yeah, I’m the modern version of the old ladies wearing the madras hunt coats or velvet collars in the early 1980s. But now I see their Old Lady Logic-- 1. This is what I have; 2. Waste not, want not; 3. I’m old and you are young so I.Don’t.Care.

*** God, I also used to think that pre-tied ties were tack-y. But the tied ones really are too fluffy for what I want to look like on a horse. I don’t think they made the ball-shaped ladies like me look good in the hunt field or dressage ring even then… even when they were Doing It Right.

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OK, my mind has been pried open. Would you kindly show me what the finished look of this looks like? Thank you.

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You can wear your striped ratcatcher nowadays. No-one will bat an eye.

Careful with the ruffled shirts like the FITS one–I also am not overly neck-endowed and I think they make me look like a pork chop. All I need is a sprinkling of parsley… (see above)

I have a Kerrits one with a stand up collar that has a diagonal cut and snaps–it’s big enough to go round my throat without choking me and it looks clean and tidy, and I just ordered a Dublin one from RW in their sale which looks promising–pale blue with a white collar, which always looks nice.

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atr, thank you for the picture!

What? I can wear a striped rat catcher? So with a monogrammed choker in Pure Old School Hunter Style? Or you mean I could wear the shirt with the stand-up collar buttoned? With a stock pin or naked?

Thanks. I clearly have no clue.

I just bought this very stock. I chatted back and forth with Veronica and she made mine a little less pouffy so it looked a little more tailored. She’s EXCELLENT to work with. She responded instantly to my emails and was helpful with suggestions to make the tie suit me better. After we figured out what I wanted, the tie arrived in a few days. Highly, highly recommended.

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In a one day recognized event at the lower levels the rules don’t even require a jacket anymore. Yes, you can totally wear a ratcatcher. Last I checked (a couple years) if neck gear was required, you needed a choker and pin, or a stock tie, or a neck tie.

Oops. Above answer for wrong sport. Cue Emily Littela -" never mind!"

Yes, and pin or naked. the collar stands up…!

If you still want to go the stock tie route, these look pretty short in the neck: https://www.facebook.com/The-STOCK-Market-164520140654673/

Most are too blingy for my taste, but I know the ladies and am fairly sure you could ask them to make something that would suit you.

Now that page is just dangerous! So many unique and lovely options.

I was going to suggest that style - some refer to it as a ‘euro’ style stock - over the standard knot & fold type. They have less bulk at the throat and with the right fabric choice, the tails won’t be so poofy on the chest. Smartpak has several pre-tied plain white options that look to have a pretty streamlined profile if you’re looking for economy, OP.

A word of caution on the pre-tied, though…if the neck closure is velcro, it will inevitably catch your hairnet. Been there, done that, super annoying.

Hehe… Velcro and hairnet tangle. BTDT, hated it.

It surprises me, y’all, that the Euro style (which look like unapologetic bibs to me) are less puffy than the folded type.

(…And by the way, you will notice in my photo that I am not wearing white breeches–at Regionals, no less–and the world did not drop off it’s axis.)

I’ll break out the full, traditional tied stock tie if I’m showing dressage in my sidesaddle habit, but if I’m just going normally in regular dressage tack? Nope, regular snap-collar shirt all the way. I have a short sleeved one with fancy buttons that I quite like. Makes it much easier to swap between disciplines for me, now that everyone is wearing short coats and no stock tie necessary, it’s just a different pair of breeches, not whole sets of different show attire. I also feel like just a show shirt/polo with no coat has gotten much more popular at our GMO schooling shows in the last few years; it used to be fairly formal as far as turnout, but at my show this weekend, I don’t think I saw one person in a coat!

Hmm. Things are going so sporty casual! Like Dockers and a Hawaiian shirt for Casual Fridays.

Not sure about wearing all the technical fabrics or not hiding all that happens in the belly and hips when I sit on a horse. But then again I’m going to move to the Southeast and so I may be forced to change.

I will pay more attention to what folks are wearing at the Arabian Sporthorse and USDF shows this summer where I am in the PNW.

Thank you for your help.

Bib = I can wear what I damn well please under my coat, like a super light dri-fit shirt, and no one can see from more than 5’ away :smiley:

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