So my mare will (God willing) be going in foal for the final time next year. I think I’d like to put her to a pure TB (or at least that’s the plan at the moment :lol: ) to breed an eventer: 3/4 TB, 1/4 ID.
A recent import to the UK is Stormhill Miller. He’s sired 4**** event horse Stormhill Michael and another junior eventer. I haven’t been able to see him in the flesh yet but wondered if anyone knows anything about him or could comment on his pedigree?
Wow he sure look like Bustino and thats a great thing. Lovely looking horse. PatO
He IS nice looking. Looks as if he’s returning home, since he was bred in the UK. One assumes that you are going with the tried and true commercial stallions; y’all have lots of them, and you can use AI, if the stud will.
Power Blade has some nice ones out there and would be worth a look as well.
What are your mare’s TB lines?
Here’s the testmating of Stormhill Miller to my mare. He would give me line breeding to Arctic Star who pops up again and again in top class steeplechasers and eventers.
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/dbtestmating.php?&sireid=10495768&damid=10451797
Here’s the research I did on Arctic Star last year. He’s a real unsung hero of racehorse breeding and sports horse breeding.
I don’t suppose many people have heard of Arctic Star. He was a TB foaled in 1942. He is recorded as having sired 50-100 foals so not a hugely popular stallion.
http://sporthorsedata.com/d?i=647935&z=6Cd685
However his sons who went into racing did exceptionally well on the flat. One son won the Irish Derby, another won the Irish St Leger. However his offspring were even better at Steeplechasing. Via his sons Arctic Slave and Arctic Storm his family produced many top chasers including Titus Oates who won two Gold Cups and the King George Chase. Titus Oates was out of the very top drawer of steeplechasing horses.
Another son of Arctic Star went to stand in Germany, approved by the Holstein verband. He was called Sable Skinflint. His offspring won over 200,000 DM in sportshorse competition in the 1960s.
Via Arctic Star’s good steeplechasing son, Arctic Storm, came the TB stallion Golden Beaker. Golden Beaker was the sire of Clover Hill, one of the best showjumping sires ever to come out of Ireland. It is no wonder Golden Beaker sired jumpers, his dam line is linebred to Hurry On, sire of Precipitation who was the sire of Furioso.
Arctic Storm sired Arctic Que. He was the sire of several international eventers and showjumpers.
Arctic Que also sired a mare called Arctic Lass (out of a mare of unknown breeding). She gave birth to Knockboy who was the sire of SeaCrest. And SeaCrest was the sire of Cruising, the very best showjumping sire that currently stands in Ireland.
Considering that most of these stallions produced no more than 50-100 foals this record is simply amazing.
I thought I’d forgotten something when I posted the start to this thread. I did. Two other lines from Arctic Star are Top Star who sired Robert Smith’s good horse Olympic Video. And then there is the line that goes
Arctic Star - Arctic Path (mare) - Arctic Gail (mare) - Arcticonius (mare)
Arcticonius was one of those outstanding mares that we all wish we owned. She was graded into the Trakehner verband and is the mother of THREE graded stallions: Acajou, Avignon and the very famous Arogno. Arogno sired Schwadroneur, GP dressage stallion and stallion of the year in Denmark in 2000. He also sired Partout, Anky Van Grunsven’s successful GP performer. *
Arcticonius also had Anna Karenina, another outstanding broodmare. Anna Karenina gave birth to Amatcho and he sired Miss Mellor, a 4**** eventer.
Another daughter Arktis gave birth to Arentino, yet another graded stallion. Arentino stands in the UK and two of his sons have been approved as stallions with the Trakehner verband.
I’m amazed at the strength and depth of sports horses coming from this pedigree.
Clover Hill.
Cruising.
Arogno.
Partout.
Those are world class stallions. And yet the stallion who started it all is pretty much forgotten. Strange old world isn’t it?
Oh my word, this family just goes on and on.
Arctic Star was the sire of Arctic Chevallier. Arctic Chevallier sired Arctic Lace and she was the dam of the legendary steeplechasing sire Oats. He was the sire of the fabulous racehorses Flaked Oats, Master Oats and Flakey Dove.
Oats sired a mare called Fourth Degree and she was dam of the Gold Cup winners Viking Flagship and Flagship Uberalles, both by different stallions.
Oats also sired a mare called Lucky Harvest. She sired a stallion called Stormhill Miller. He is belatedly becoming popular in Ireland as a sire of eventers after his son Stormhill Michael started competing at 4**** level.
And Oats sired Mighty Frolic. She was dam of Miners Frolic, the Olympic eventer.
And there’s more!
Arctic Star - Arctic Slave - Twilight Slave (mare) - Dawn Run, the amazing mare who won the Champion Hurdle and Cheltenham Gold Cup.
Arctic Star - Arctic Slave - Chillaway (mare) - Another Miller (Mare) - Over To You, Jeanette Brakewell’s world class eventer.
Another nice little factoid is that this bloodline is in the sire or dam line of 4 of the top 100 eventing stallions of all time.
46 Arctic Que
47 Sea Crest
58 Clover Hill
76 Cruising
oooo. Don’t hesitate!
Somebody in the Arctic Chevalier family came to the US, but precisely who is gone for the moment. IIRC, it was a mare. As a line, Arctic Star simply isn’t present here–in part because it’s so turfy and stamina oriented.
Here are some more good horses stemming from an Arctic Que mare. This article is a year out of date. The young mare Sussex Carentino has just won the National 5yo showjumping championships. She looks to have a very bright future.
http://www.horsebreedersmagazine.com/a-mare-line/4547551386
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFiUDjxBUBk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Just have to add about Arcticonius’ other son, Avignon II (who is the full brother of Arogno) - here in the US he has had GREAT influence in the TK breed. There are more than one approved son who has him as the dam sire (including my own boy) and he is in MANY pedigrees as the sire or dam sire in dressage and eventing. Upper and lower levels… Very versitile and very rideable bloodlines. Don’t want to derail too much, but that blood is available here in the US through Avignon. 
and wanted to mention that.
The stallion is gorgeous! The family is illustrious. Thank you for bringing this to my attention!
It’s funny last spring someone posted a list of newly approved Irish stallions, both ID and Sport horse stallions.
With pictures.
http://www.horsesportireland.ie/stallions/hsi-stallion-inspection-results-2011.9937.html
The picture of Stormhill Miller had to be one of the WORST ever published.
The list caused a fair bit of consternation http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305596&highlight=hsi
can we get frozen here in the US?
A bit of a spin off but there is a very nice TB stallion for sale on Equine Now… His pedigree is pretty awesome…
http://www.pedigreequery.com/billy+allen
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-444113
Cant tell a lot about his conformation in that pic but man his pedigree is nice…
How is it possible for this to be the same horse in those two pictures?
I’m going to find out more but it’s likely that Stormhill Miller went into race training as a very young horse. They usually start them at 18 months under saddle. One of the areas that gets severely damaged when you start a horse that young is their back and one of the long term outcomes can be that the horse’s back drops when they are only in their teens. All horse’s backs drop eventually but you don’t expect to see it until they are in their early twenties.
Stormhill Miller clearly did not have a dropped back when he was younger and he doesn’t pass it on to his offspring. At the moment I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. If it is down to him being in hard work from an early age then I won’t hold it against him. I will also never put my horses in hard work before they are 4 years old. It just isn’t worth it.
That’s pretty much what I thought, but OMG what a bad picture:eek:
it is hard to believe it is the same horse. How would you even hide that in a picture if taken from the side?
I would not blame early prepping for the racetrack-- most are started in the fall of their yearling year and under that theory you would be seeing a lot more sway-backed older thorougbbreds/stallions at breeding farm.
The problem is, if he throws that back you have already stacked the odds against yourself. A sporthorse needs to be well conformed through his teenage years as many are just reaching the top at thata ge. Your mare is such a magnificent producer she deserves the best and I am not sure he is it.
(He is not that old–I could see if he was 25 but he is a 1996 model–so he is 15?)
I think I’ll find out the full story on Stormhill Miller before coming to any conclusions. His best offspring is beautiful and very talented and the stallion himself wasn’t born with a dropped back. If there’s a good reason for it I may give him the benefit of the doubt. If there isn’t I’ll look elsewhere.
omare thankyou so much for your kind words about my mare. I don’t know what to say
I have had a stallion recommended to me for my mare. He’s a National Hunt stallion with an excellent record. I just can’t get past his stud fee. :eek: I know its not much for a race stallion but its one heck of a lot for a sports horse. Apparently his stock are just starting to come through into eventing and are showing a lot of promise.
Since your mare has such a great record maybe they will cut a deal.
I would be interested to know what you find out about Stormhill Miller.
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I have had a stallion recommended to me for my mare. He’s a National Hunt stallion with an excellent record. I just can’t get past his stud fee. :eek: I know its not much for a race stallion but its one heck of a lot for a sports horse. Apparently his stock are just starting to come through into eventing and are showing a lot of promise.
http://www.pitchallstud.co.uk/midnight_legand.htm
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Both by Night Shift!
I’ve been following Billy Allen for years. What a globetrotting record he has! If I remember correctly he ran earlier this year. Hope he gets a great home:yes:
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