I have had several. Mare 1) she is a half TB Paint that was a successful hunter/jumper herself.She had a very TB build to her. She was a fabulous mover as were all of her foals. Had 2 foals by Special Memories: not sure what happened to 1 of them down the road, one went on to be a very successful A circuit hunter. A third foal by a different stallion also went on to be an A circuit hunter. Mare B was a Paint I bought in foal already to Duellglanz. She was actually bought with the intent of breeding to my TB stallion, so not my breeding. That foal did in fact come out favoring the Paint confo…smaller and stockier in build. He was smallish and not a super mover but gosh that horse could jump. He jumped out of the pasture all the time. He was initially sold to a lady down the street who was not very tall and did not want a huge horse. He kept escaping and turning back up on my doorstep. Or barn door as the case may be. He was eventually sold to someone that was an event rider. He never did excell at the dressage phase but he did really well in the 2 jumping phases. The mare had 2 other foals for me: 1 by a dressage Arab that was carefully chosen to match her flaws (that foal was one of the best moving foals I ever bred odd pedigree aside). He was sold to an Arab breeder, was a champion sporthorse in hand for half Arab classes on the west coast and last I knew was still intact as a stallion out west. The third foal was by my TB stallion and that filly is now a successful jumper in KY. So…all in all that Paint mare did not produce super movers except for the Arab cross colt but her kids sure did jump well. Going the other way…my WB mare jumped her fence and then the next one too into the pasture of my Paint stallion 2 years ago. The (mare is half TB WB and the stallion is a Paint that is 3/4 TB by the way…so a lot of TB in the mix betweent the 2 of them). I took that foal to AWR inspection as the mare was AWR registered and the colt scored slightly higher than his dam…so he certainly wasn’t breeding “down”. He sold as a yearling as a hunter prospect. So…after numerous such crosses most of them worked well for me. I only had one that came out as a throwback to the Paint stockier confo and honestly I don’t think that one was the best matchup of trying to match up the mares flaws. Nothing against Duellglanz but I don’t think he was the best match for the mares flaws…and the lady that bred her admitted to using him because she lived near him and basically he was convenient to her…never a good reason for choosing a mate. And at least the little bugger could jump, even if he wasn’t the best mover. So…all in all if you are looking for a hunter/jumper type and you are already working with a TB type mare I think it would be a decent risk. Not so much if you are looking for the next dressage star. If you are looking at Indian Artifacts bred…then looks like you are looking for a hunter anyway. FWIW all my Paint x foals sold in the 5K range: 2 as weanlings, 3 as yearlings and 1 as a 3 YO. Not top dollar WB prices…but were they marketable? yes.
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maybe you can find a reputable vet where you can take your mare and leave her for a week or two? it sure would save on call charges. this is what i did because the idea of my vet having to travel to me daily was sobering - so off my mare went for a week long stay at his place. it was actually quite nice price wise.
good luck no matter what you do. if you are interested in producing a WB x pony many pony stallions do live cover… :)[/QUOTE]
Great idea and what I plan to do next year. For instance my vet charges board at $25/day, my farm calls are $60. I cannot even imagine how fast that added up with twice a day visits.
I did have a $900 dollar bill for one cycle when she was bred back while out on lease but she did not respond to her first shot of lutelyse, was given another one about a week later… she was at the clinic a ton and lots of farm calls which I didn’t realize because she was 8 hours away. All from a $350 all inclusive package… lol. Definitely does add up but I got a pregnancy out of it so all is well that ends well.
Personally I think you are better off with WB to WB. You don’t gain anything by adding the Paint or QH unless you are after color. It’s hard enough to sell good WB foals these days, and you are likely to NOT advance the quality of the foal by using a stock horse type when there are so many nice WB stallions out there.
I’m not even sure why you would want to. What would the Paint do to improve your mare?
PS I read about your bad experience with your vet. Many of us have gone through what you have or worse! I spend $12K on stud fees & vet fees the first year I started breeding and got ZERO pregnancies!!
But the LAST reason to pick a stallion is simply because he’s nearby. Instead, you need to get a better vet.
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Personally I think you are better off with WB to WB. You don’t gain anything by adding the Paint or QH unless you are after color. It’s hard enough to sell good WB foals these days, and you are likely to NOT advance the quality of the foal by using a stock horse type when there are so many nice WB stallions out there.
I’m not even sure why you would want to. What would the Paint do to improve your mare?
PS I read about your bad experience with your vet. Many of us have gone through what you have or worse! I spend $12K on stud fees & vet fees the first year I started breeding and got ZERO pregnancies!!
But the LAST reason to pick a stallion is simply because he’s nearby. Instead, you need to get a better vet.[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the time you took to reply, but PLEASE read the thread in it’s entirety, including my post just a few up that says I’ve decided to pursue other options. 
Thanks!
OP, I know you’ve decided to pursue other options but one thing to file away for the future – Indian Artifacts has a reputation among QH people for difficult babies. The “QH mind” is not something I’d necessarily expect to get when breeding to one of his sons. Not that they are bad, just known to be more TB-ish “ask” instead of “tell” rides.
