I was jw how it’s a FOS link if that was the one ur talkin about DK
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At least Post #107 had readable words. It’s very hard to take someone’s argument/position seriously if you have to decipher their message as if figuring out graffiti.
I think what Suffolk Downs has implemented is a good step in the right direction towards improving the lot in life for many thoroughbreds.
Horselover101, you seem to be missing the point that, if one behaves poorly at a party, that person tends to not be invited back.
Additionally, COTH happens to be a business and that business owns these forums. They can mess up your sandcastle all they want.
Take the advice of that link you posted and go stand on a streetcorner to rant your personal issue. Or better yet, write to the Massachusetts Racing commission. The Jockey Club, Suffolk Downs, etc.
Tip: Use real words.
for starters i’ve made dean’s list the last 2 semesters in school. if i was writing formal messages on this website i would use proper grammar but its a bulletin board on the internet. if i write to suffolk downs i’m gonna need people to back me up probably its tough for one person to do something against something this big. people seem to be defending the guy.
One thing you will learn as you get older is that when you want to convince people you’re right (regardless of the venue), the more intelligently you can frame your arguments, the better. Writing like a 13 year old using “text-speak” is not a great way to convince adults that you are right about things. Neither is exaggerating, spreading unverifiable rumor, or just plain making things up.
I see you are very passionate about this issue- perhaps if you find it really important, writing to track management is the way to go. Perhaps consider trying to make a difference by volunteering for CANTER or a similar group. That way you can also talk directly to these trainers and try to convince them to do the right thing or at least take a different approach towards their horses.
i never made anything up. i don’t understand how anyone can say i made stuff up.
I take that as rather insulting.
if i was writing formal messages on this website i would use proper grammar but its a bulletin board on the internet.
It’s not a bulletin board where kids gather to show their plastic ponies with photo shopped hearts and butterflies farting out their butts. How do you ever think you’ll sway anyone’s opinion with such a biased and rude presentation?
No one here has defended the person you are so worked up over. I’m sure he’s an unsavory character compared to my version of a good, caring and responsible horseman. People have simply explained in grown up words why your ranting isn’t helping your cause one bit and your inaccuracies negate whatever you have managed to get correct.
I’ve never been rude to you. You came into this bulletin and started saying stuff about me.
Lets make one thing clear. If anyone wants to beef with me or say anything about me thats fine. Make a new bulletin called Horselover101. and we can talk about the way i type or come across in there.
Horselover, you’re missing the point. Read other threads on this site and you’ll notice that the vast majority of the people on here use proper grammar and punctuation; that’s the sort of bulletin board this is. When you make posts that appear to have been written by a lolcat and are heavy on the hyperbole, people don’t take you seriously.
The way in which you present your arguments can help or hinder your position. Guess what your presentation has done for yours?
the way i present my arguments? there is no right way to argue. i know it makes everyone feel good to type like professionals. its probably makes them feel important and a lot more intelligent than they really are.
Or, just for the sake of aforementioned intelligence issue… Rational well thought out arguments/discussion using correct grammar and/or punctuation informs people, it builds consensus, it rallies people to the speaker or writer’s cause, it changes public opinion, it moves regulation, it creates opportunity. Little things like that.
Then there is Plan B. Alienate people potentially aligned to your cause AND (for bonus points) look like a fool. watever werkz 4 u dude
horselover, be honest - did you REALLY make the Dean’s List at school, or did you make the List for a guy named Dean?:lol:
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the way i present my arguments? there is no right way to argue. i know it makes everyone feel good to type like professionals. its probably makes them feel important and a lot more intelligent than they really are.[/QUOTE]
Please re-think what you just typed: You made an argument for using poor grammar based on a false argument - that people only use proper grammar in order to “feel good” and/or to “make them feel important and a lot more intelligent than they really are”. So, essentially, you are saying that people who use proper grammar are in fact NOT intelligent and those who use poor grammar are actually the smart ones.
RIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHTTTTT…
people have been against me the entire time. they were defending gill. people like yourself come in here and start saying things about me and how i’m saying things. wouldn’t the rational thing to do since your rational is come into the bulletin talk about the subject i’m on. instead you come in DMK and pacific and start making fun of me. where is the logic? i’ve never spoken to pacific at all and he comes in bashing
I think the best route to go on this discussion would be to stick to the ideas that would best protect the horses, the mods will interrupt if there are unverifiable, or just plain pot shots taken against individuals that could be used to take this thread down into oblivion. That being said, since this is near and dear to my heart, I will try and persist in the idea department. I really would also suggest HSLVR that you do try and communicate in the most advanced way as it gives anyone a headache trying to decipher the meaning. We do all try and speak advanced English here, and writing it that way will help you to formulate your case in a much more powerful manner. This is not to attack your intelligence and most certainly not your original reason for posting as this is very important and I would add not just for Suffolk Downs but for all of the tracks.
EBO, that is the general idea, and I am not so much attacking the grounds upon which the “meat dealers” are being kept out as the idea that all of the dealers/buyers on the backside are the scum of the earth. There are some disreputable people out there, many of whom are sometimes seen as unimpeachable BNT (big name trainers), they are doing the greatest harm in my book but there is a crisis throughout the horse industry which mirrors that in the country as a whole. Seems like the end is always justified by the means and that is just plain wrong and immoral. I think everyone who has a heart would like to see the abuse stop. The “meds”, (I really love that term), everything is a “med” these days, Class I Narcotics, steroids, Prozac, Zoloft, injecting joints with steroids and pounding the hell out of the animal without a thought to the degeneration of the joint, it could go on and on. Therapeutic use of drugs cannot be confused with wringing the last drop of energy/money out of anything, be it human or animal and I hope to God that we have reached the end phase where the mega money just utilize everything for the power and the glory, that kind of thinking (like all the other kinds of stinky stuff) tends to run downhill and infect all the other layers.
Okay, so, as far as access to the backside and the ways in which we could make the best out of a difficult situation, the HBPA or whatever entity exists to protect the people and the animals on the backside of the tracks (oftentimes it is the Chaplaincy office who is the most active on the backside) needs to be able to communicate openly and effectively with everyone. The time tables for horses to be removed has to be either a little more flexible or the there has to be a barn for these horses to go to. The money now being use by the much vaunted TRF could be used to set up barns at all of the tracks or some kind of fund used to do so, and that would include paying personnel to care for and perhaps train the horses. One place in the country has a barn that has an indoor that is used to retrain these horses, and of course, the turn around time for retraining is much faster. Anyway, there is a ton of money to be had, look at the new hospital being built in Kentucky by the Big Brown owners who are trying fast and furious to make friends (right there is $17 million being spent). How about tapping into those kind of donors, making appeals to the millions of dollars that are right now available if you know how to apply for grants from all kinds of corporations, not just the racing or horse related ones?
These are just some ideas, I am sure there are many more that can be tossed around and acted upon that many who have alot of experience in the racing industry could provide. We just need an avenue where they can be discussed effectively and where they will go immediately into those committees who are charged with implementing the ideas such as The Jockey Club Safety Board. I think that if we brought down the wall between the average person and the blue blood organizations that things would improve very, very quickly.
A few things
people have been against me the entire time. they were defending gill. people like yourself come in here and start saying things about me and how i’m saying things. wouldn’t the rational thing to do since your rational is come into the bulletin talk about the subject i’m on. instead you come in DMK and pacific and start making fun of me. where is the logic? i’ve never spoken to pacific at all and he comes in bashing
#1 - no one has defended Gill.
#2 - the topic was not about Gill, it was about changes being implemented at Suffolk Downs
#3 - your method of communicating is gibberish to the rest of us
#4 - no one is defending Gill
#5 - Pacific is not a he (petty but I had to stick that in)
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people have been against me the entire time. they were defending gill. people like yourself come in here and start saying things about me and how i’m saying things. wouldn’t the rational thing to do since your rational is come into the bulletin talk about the subject i’m on. instead you come in DMK and pacific and start making fun of me. where is the logic? i’ve never spoken to pacific at all and he comes in bashing[/QUOTE]
I actually saw the thread a bit ago - thought it was interesting. I didn’t realize HOW interesting it was going to get until YOU came in slaughtering the English language.
Oh, and I am a woman, not a man. And I do not understand the sentence(s) I bolded. Can you elaborate?
Thanks, Wings 
suffolk has to make changes regarding gill thats what i’m after. laurie said i was lieing about the operation he does and two of the horses dieing. people are saying i’m skewing facts. whats gibberish about the quote you quoted?? and for pacific SHE had no right to say anything about me.
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horselover, be honest - did you REALLY make the Dean’s List at school, or did you make the List for a guy named Dean?:lol:[/QUOTE]
there is my elaboration pacific. you had no reason to say anything to or about me.
