Suggestions for tall & THICK Warmblood stallions....

[Ysabel]

Looking for suggestion for BIGGER stallions > tall and THICK! I am considering breeding one of my mares for a foal for myself in 2016. I am fat, oldish, and unambitious so I am not looking to produce a world beater - just something for mid level dressage and trail riding. Priority one is temperament - I like very forward horses, but only so long as they are not foolish. Second priority is size - I want 16.3hh or taller and the thicker the better. Other than size the thing I would most like to improve on the mare would be neck set - mare’s is fine - but because of my own build I am more comfortable on horses with high set necks (like Friesians), so a stallion with a very high set neck would be a bonus. Of course because of my weight must have a strong wide loin like my mare. Stallion can be any registry of WB since the mare is CW approved (Quarter Horse). Doesn’t really matter if they are dressage or jumping stallions so long as they have decent gaits. Frozen semen is okay, but nothing with an eye popping price tag.

So far I have found nothing to match my criteria. Odilon would be perfect if he was 2" or more taller - so a taller version of him is what I am looking for.

[Diamontaire]

ES Donavan
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[RobinL]

Steeped In Luck (Irish Draught)

[winter]

Lorrie Jamieson’s stallion Tacorde is enormous.
Her other stallion Zeno is also big, and makes really large offspring.

[cherham]

I second Tacorde. Sadly we lost our full term Tacorde filly this spring but she was HUGE. And ton’s of bling too. She would have been a stunner for sure. We are planning to breed back to Tacorde next year.

[Whitfield_Farm_Hanov]

I was going to say Donavan too. His foals are large, big boned & I’ve heard have good brains.

[RTF]

You might want to look at full Irish draught stallions. They have all of the traits you describe, and they are much more warmblood like than draught. I love my Irish horses, and they are quiet, athletic, and personable.

[theresak]

While I’ve always loved Donovan, having known a few of his offspring (geldings only), I don’t think they are the easiest temperament wise.

I believe they are a bit of slow developing their work ethic. And the one’s I’ve known are not the most forward horses.

They are big, and have good bone. The necks are big as well - I wouldn’t call them super upright.

[Crown_Royal]

I vote Irish Draught! Big-boned, usually fantastic temperaments (I’ve worked at 2 different ID breeding farms and most are big teddy bears), and most have a great neck.

Does anyone know the name of the one RID stallion that’s really tall (17.1hh+) and gray (I know…half of the ID’s are gray)? I think he’s older.

Edited to add: I was thinking of Foxglen Himself, however he’s only 16.2 (just looks huge) and I’m not sure if he’s still standing at stud. The contract on the website is dated 2008.

[RTF]

If you are willing to look at Irish draught, I bred my full Irish mare to a stallion named Pairadox Gold Coin. He’s dark bay, 17 plus hands, 10 1/2 inches of bone, very good mover, and built uphill. His sire is Steeped In Luck, who is showing Grand Prix dressage. I am breeding for the same reason as you, I am looking for height, bone, temperament, yet still athletic enough to be competitive.

[Foxtrot_s]

Love the Irish horse for brains and abilities.

[RTF]

Beeston Laird is a 17.2 hand, grey RID. He is lovely as well, and was another purebred Irish stallion I had looked at for my mare. He has gobs of substance, and is a lovely mover. I wonder if he is the tall grey, the above person was trying to think of.

[Ysabel]

Thanks for the suggestions, and I am considering the Irish Drafts (and Friesian) as a backup if I can’t find what I want in a WB stallion. But I prefer to stick with WB so that the foal can be registered. If I have to go with a none WB my first pick will likely be a Friesian because of the higher neck set.

I have to confess I would very much like to find everything I want in a grey stallion so I have been googling huge grey warmblood stallions for weeks but I have come up with nothing. A few at 16.2hh that check all my boxes except height. Of course if I will move on to chestnuts, blacks, and bays if I don’t find what I want in grey. Someone else recommended Lissaro who does seem like an excellent choice.

Frozen is a good option for this mare because she has great fertility and easy heats to track.

[MysticOakRanch]

[QUOTE=Ysabel;8391043]
. But I prefer to stick with WB so that the foal can be registered. If I have to go with a none WB my first pick will likely be a Friesian because of the higher neck set.

.[/QUOTE]

Totally understand wanting to stick with WB - but if your biggest concern is registration, Friesian Heritage Horse is a wonderful registry for Friesian crosses. Very supportive, and offers USDF All Breeds, as well as an Open Competition Program with awards for most disciplines.

I’m also fairly sure Irish Draught will register a 1/2 ID (Irish Sport Horse), although don’t quote me on that one, it isn’t a registry I’ve worked with, but I know a few people with ID crosses that are registered ISH.

Then from a WB standpoint, you might look at Waterford - he’s Hanoverian, and has a lot of bone and substance and a fabulous temperament. He isn’t that tall (over 16 hands, but not huge), but I’ve seen several of his offspring and they all seem to be taller then him, and they all have a lot of bone and body. And he really is a sweetheart!

[Mozart]

It’s too bad Fernet Branca is no longer around; I have a gelding by him and he absolutely checks your boxes. My gelding is Fernet Branca/Silberpfeil. Solid horse, very sensible but forward, good work ethic, good bone, more upright head carriage. Strangely, only 16.1 (I say strangely as both stallions are taller) but you would not know unless you sticked him. I bought him as resale project about 9 years ago and he wormed his way to “lifer” status.

[Megaladon]

[QUOTE=Ysabel;8391043]
Thanks for the suggestions, and I am considering the Irish Drafts (and Friesian) as a backup if I can’t find what I want in a WB stallion. But I prefer to stick with WB so that the foal can be registered. If I have to go with a none WB my first pick will likely be a Friesian because of the higher neck set.

I have to confess I would very much like to find everything I want in a grey stallion so I have been googling huge grey warmblood stallions for weeks but I have come up with nothing. A few at 16.2hh that check all my boxes except height. Of course if I will move on to chestnuts, blacks, and bays if I don’t find what I want in grey. Someone else recommended Lissaro who does seem like an excellent choice.

Frozen is a good option for this mare because she has great fertility and easy heats to track.[/QUOTE]

If you do decide to go with Friesian, I recommend Ljibbes Valour. He’s 17h, and has a perfect temperament, just wonderful and this horse does everything!

[Donatella]

[QUOTE=Ysabel;8391043]
Thanks for the suggestions, and I am considering the Irish Drafts (and Friesian) as a backup if I can’t find what I want in a WB stallion. But I prefer to stick with WB so that the foal can be registered. If I have to go with a none WB my first pick will likely be a Friesian because of the higher neck set. [/QUOTE]

It sounds like a Friesian would be the best fit for what you’re looking for. The foal could be registered with the Friesian Sporthorse Association www.friesiansporthorseassociation.com a reputable and international registry, so I wouldn’t let registration be a concern. They’re also on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Friesian-Sporthorse-Association-176511954878/

[Hollycatt]

What about Democraat (KWPN) if you are ok with frozen (though I don’t know how good it is). Grey, tall, chunky, produces upright/vertical set of neck according to foal reports. I had a literally pink son of Democraat and he was a great horse. Very substantial but forward and just generally a nice guy. I never buy geldings but he was an exception.http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/democraat.shtml

[horsechick]

Legaczy throws biiiiiiig babies

[AKB]

Another vote for Irish Draughts. As long as you breed to an approved stallion, you can register the foal. Irish Draughts are generally versatile, pleasant, easy going, and have plenty of athleticism for an amateur. The ID/warm blood cross is very popular right now.