Unfortunately I know the person- and she did blindly use. Even with warning advice from others [me included] although I did not know of it until afterwards.
any updates or thoughts on this product? The distributors for this appears to be spreading like wildfire - kind of reminds me of an MLM type distribution program, but I’m not sure.
It is still a hard no from me.
I don’t know why but I’m envisioning a white collar meth lab lol. I don’t know how they can get away with making anything injectable in a home environment. 🤦🽔♀ï¸
I’m bemused by the labeling of an injectable pharmaceutical as a “supplement”.
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What - you inject this stuff into your horse??? Sure - no need to ask my vet about joint arthritis and therapies. I will just buy something from somebody hawking it on Facebook. That sounds smart.
I wanted to update this thread with the outcome of the box I got from Summit. If you recall, they sent it to me without asking for my current address etc. it was just to get me to shut up on social media, I suppose.
Anyway, I passed on the enclosed vials to a friend with an extremely arthritic retired horse who was scheduled to be euthanized as he was no longer comfortable in the pasture. They used the vials (two or three, don’t recall). The horse showed absolutely no improvement and was euthanized as originally planned.
So there’s an anecdote for you. I would never ever seek this out for my horses… the behavior of the company and their dubious science being two major reasons.
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See, I have had a different experience, but have kept watching this thread. My horse has notable improvement after the loading dose and I can tell as the month is winding down and it is almost time for his next monthly injection. The vets with Outlaw Equine told me, “keep using it if it works,” so they didn’t seem to feel it was dangerous.And…I may get bashed for going against the grain, but…my experience.
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It’s nice to have at least some anecdotal experience from someone who isn’t a brand new user 
I did a little bit of digging myself, it does appear to now be being distributed as an MLM sort of distribution method. We will likely see a ton of people starting to sell it. Just had a reputable trainer in my area pop up as one and a few other folks in my circle but not that I know well.
I did ask one of the folks in my “circle” that is now a distributor about the FDA approval and she said it doesn’t have FDA approval and doesn’t have to … it is a “supplement”. She did offer to send me some research - I haven’t looked at it to see if it is the same as previously distributed or even really looked at it. At initial glance it appeared to be more internal to their own company than a true outside study.
Here’s the new link to the “business opportunity” - https://summitjp.com/opportunity/
They also appear to have a slew of BNRs.
Friend of a friend is a rep for this stuff in my area, so I’m acquainted with a few users. Not me, no way, no how! I compared it to playing Russian Roulette in a syringe. Not a game I’m interested in playing with my horses! The marketing I’ve seen is ridiculous.
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This product, and others, came up today. Any updates?
One of my facebook friends, a trainer here in FL, is sponsored by this stuff. WOuld love to see some updates from users…
How can anyone read this thread and still be at all interested in this stuff? :eek:
”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹No research, less than honest marketing (to put it very mildly!), no FDA oversight, and mixed up in someone’s guest room, with what’s likely bulk chondroitin powder from China.
Seriously, don’t you want something you inject into your horse to be produced in a sterile production environment? With some recourse if something goes terribly wrong?
What’s the attraction here??? 
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Yeah… I saw a local trainer advertising it here too (maybe the same one?) My interest was piqued after seeing the before/after videos of her older, arthritic and navicular gelding… but, then I remembered attending the same show she and her students went to, seeing very low scoring rides (one in particular where I felt awful for the student whose horse was having a melt down over the camera man next to the arena) and reading her cheerful and exuberant post about how great she and her students did. Reality and what she presented on social media just didn’t jive… enough so that it gave me a creepy feeling reading it after seeing the painful rides…so… now I can’t help but be at least a little skeptical of a product she’s endorsing and her testimony.
Not to mention I visited to the guy’s house where he makes the stuff, next to his 6 and 8 year old kids’ sticky messy playroom …
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Exactly my reaction when I saw this thread bumped up again. :eek: and :no:
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I have a friend in FL using it as well. You couldn’t give it to me
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I had a friend give me info on this drug last year. I had never heard of this drug and neither had my sports performance vet. So didn’t think twice about it, but held onto the pamphlet thinking I’d get around to looking at it one day, but would stick with adequan for my horses.
fast forward 5 months, and I was traveling to an FEI event and this product came up in discussion. This person is also a sports performance equine vet in Florida that I’d known for years. She had said that she has contact the company about studies. And company refused to give her anything. That the company holds booths at vet conferences but has no scientific information to back up any claims that it does what the company says it does. I did get around to using that pamphlet, I gave it to her so she could study it against what she had been already told.
Short answer- don’t use it on your horse. We have no idea what’s it’s actually doing in the horse. Could be masking issues in the horse, long term effects are unknown.
and now that I know it is manufactured in someone’s house- uh, HELL NO.
and there are joint supplements that have actual clinical studies behind them showing they work and how they work, just so you know. This is not one of them.
i truly am surprised at the riders that back this product and the reps that sell this product. They only spout what the company tells them to with no actual science behind it. Nor do they understand how drugs work. It amazes me that top riders will endorse a product because they get it for free.
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I did try three doses on an OTTB. Couldn’t feel a difference…>However when I use Pentosan My horses feel like new tires!
Hello everyone,
Well I’ve just read this entire thread and I’m researching Summit. My dog was diagnosed with some osteoarthritis and the vet is recommending either adequan or arthramid. My vet’s background is as an equine vet but she also works with dogs and sees comparable success between horses and dogs using many arthritis products. I asked on my local Nextdoor forum if anyone had used either product and many had used adequan (some for horses, some for dogs). No-one was familiar with arthramid. A couple of these people said they had used adequan for a while, and when they no longer saw great results, they switched to Summit and saw a noticeable difference.
I see this forum post is almost 2 years old and wondered if, during this time, anyone had used Summit Joint Performance successfully.
Thank you very much in advance for any insight you can offer! ^…^
This has been revisited several times since the initiation of this thread.
Few people are willing to inject their animal with something that has zero supporting research, is mixed up in someone’s spare bedroom, and has super shady people attached to it.
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