Talk to me about Devoucoux saddles?

I’m currently searching and these have piqued my interest. I’ve had several Antares on trial that don’t work for one reason or the other, and the balance of them seems off for me. I also tend to like a narrow twist and the Antares seem pretty wide. I really like the feeling of being able to wrap my legs around a horse and not be pearched on top. Best place to look for a used one?

I need a shorter but forward flap as I’m longer hip to knee. I’m leasing a very easy to fit TB gelding that’s got more or a WB build. I lessoned in a Voltaire tonight that I really liked too, so keeping my eye on them as well. Thanks!

I just bought one! They all seem to have really good wither clearance, which is what I needed for my horse. I like Voltaire too, and CWD. CWDs tend to have nice forward flaps. Out of all of them Antares are my favorite though.
There are tons of places to find higher end saddles, there is a COTH thread listing them all but I am on my mobile. I got mine from highline tack.

Yeah I wanted to love the Antares too but am having no such luck!

Also interested in knowing which flap configuration I need to look for if looking for short/forward?

I went from an Antares that did not have enough wither clearance (but I loved the seat it gave me) to a Devoucoux Biarritz which my horse and I both love. No going back. I tried them all and this one is by far the best fitting, best made saddle in that category. I am 5’2" and if I am long anywhere, it’s in the femur. A 2A flap is just right. I highly recommend the Devoucoux.

I would like to be buried with my devoucoux. By far the best saddle I’ve ever sat in- I have the oldara which they don’t make anymore but I preferred it to the more usual models because of the twist/seat design. I don’t like anything too sofa-like since I spend a lot of time in a half seat and it slopes gently side to side which makes me feel secure. I bought it before CWD was as popular or Voltaire existed, so I can only compare it to Antares which I didn’t ever like the balance of.

See I am in this hell too. But the problem is that the foam panels really don’t get a fit like a wool flocked does. My work around has been to find an try the fancy French brands who have already been converted by someone from Foam to flocked. I have tried an Antares mono flap and it’s nice, but I am going to try a regular Antares next.

I liked the feel of a Devo but a lot of folks are pointing out to me some definite draw backs to the Devo tree and how it works on a horse’s back.

Good luck any way you go. There certainly is a LOT of inventory for these saddles.

Em

I had the worst experience with Devocoux
they came to fit me and the horse
the saddle arrived several weeks later. too big for both of us. when he put his head down for grass, the saddle popped up in the back. they told me this is normal. i had never before seen nor have i have since seen such a thing.
i hated the saddle and asked them to take it back. they took $700 out of the refund. i guess that was my 2 week lease fee.

never again

I have an older Devoucoux Biarritz (~15 years?) that I bought used last year and I love it. It has a wonderful balance and has a really close contact feel - just a small knee and thigh block, but you really feel down around the horse.

I’ve had good luck with it fitting a variety of horses quite well.

I’ve also ridden in the Socoa and also like that one; if I remember correctly, perhaps had a narrower twist and flatter seat.

I’ve owned a lot of saddles and ridden in many times more, and my Devoucoux is my favorite by far. I’ve ridden in a friend’s new Antares, and while I liked it, I didn’t like it as much as my Devoucoux as it didn’t sit me down and around as much.

But at the end of the day, saddles are really about personal preference and individual fit, so you’ll really have to try them for yourself!

I recommend trying different models (if you have a rep in the area, it’s an easy way to do that) as well as different years. My 15 year old Biarritz is a bit different than my friend’s 10 year old Biarritz which is different than the new ones.

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Also interested in knowing which flap configuration I need to look for if looking for short/forward?[/QUOTE]

Hate to say it, but there’s no way to tell you what flap configuration will fit your leg. You’ll just have to try some and see. See what you can find and then go from there. If a regular flap is too long, try a short. Etc.

[QUOTE=EmilyM;8956578]I had the worst experience with Devocoux
they came to fit me and the horse
the saddle arrived several weeks later. too big for both of us. when he put his head down for grass, the saddle popped up in the back. they told me this is normal. i had never before seen nor have i have since seen such a thing.
i hated the saddle and asked them to take it back. they took $700 out of the refund. i guess that was my 2 week lease fee.

never again[/QUOTE]

This has nothing to do with the actual saddles and everything to do with your rep/saddle fitter. I personally know an Antares saddle rep who became a saddle rep on a whim. She has no business fitting saddles to people, much less horses, and I’ve heard her say things that are just plain wrong (Ie. “Oh we won’t fit this to the pony, that doesn’t matter.”:eek:) Sounds like you had a bad rep who didn’t fit the saddle well, and unfortunately, there’s bad saddle reps in every saddle brand - I’ve run across saddle reps who incorrectly fit saddles many, many times. It’s much better to work with a true saddle fitter who isn’t associated with a brand. The independent saddle fitter will put you in the saddle that works for you and your horse, regardless of brand. Brand-affiliated reps are more concerned with getting you into their own saddles, and while there are some good ones, many have no business being saddle reps.

My new Devoucoux arrived a few weeks ago. I like the narrow twist so mine has the Socoa seat with the Chilberta monoflap (I prefer mono). I had two older Devoucoux that fit the horses differently than the new Dev with that updated tree. The newest tree fits much better on a variety of horses.

A good rep will help you with flap size. I event, but evidently I ride long because my new one does not have a forward flap and fits me better. I couldn’t be happier with mine.

I love my Socoa. I think my flap is a 1A, but not sure. One thing to keep in mind is that a 17 in Devoucoux is the equivalent to a 16.5 in other saddles.

The Socoa has a narrow twist. I didn’t have any problems with fit or reps, etc. The fit was checked by an independent saddle fitter when my mare was having some behavioral issues, and she said it was an excellent fit.

My new one is a 16.5 and it is very true to size. 17" would be way big for me, I am small.

I love mine! I’ve had one for YEARS and it was the best purchase I ever made. My gelding loved the Butet but my friend sells saddles and she let me sit in this Oldara that she had and I was hooked. He was so happy in it. One day, when I win the lotto, I’m going to pay for a brand new one. I also have the Biarritz which I got off e-bay of all places.

They tend to fit the very high “shark fin” horses rather than the very wide back WB’s. I have one and I love it with the use of a equifit pad it fits, and I mean fits well almost everything I ride. The buffalo leather is expensive but man is it like velcro.

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I have an older Devoucoux Biarritz (~15 years?) that I bought used last year and I love it. It has a wonderful balance and has a really close contact feel - just a small knee and thigh block, but you really feel down around the horse.

I’ve had good luck with it fitting a variety of horses quite well.

I’ve also ridden in the Socoa and also like that one; if I remember correctly, perhaps had a narrower twist and flatter seat.

I’ve owned a lot of saddles and ridden in many times more, and my Devoucoux is my favorite by far. I’ve ridden in a friend’s new Antares, and while I liked it, I didn’t like it as much as my Devoucoux as it didn’t sit me down and around as much.

But at the end of the day, saddles are really about personal preference and individual fit, so you’ll really have to try them for yourself!

I recommend trying different models (if you have a rep in the area, it’s an easy way to do that) as well as different years. My 15 year old Biarritz is a bit different than my friend’s 10 year old Biarritz which is different than the new ones.

Hate to say it, but there’s no way to tell you what flap configuration will fit your leg. You’ll just have to try some and see. See what you can find and then go from there. If a regular flap is too long, try a short. Etc.

This has nothing to do with the actual saddles and everything to do with your rep/saddle fitter. I personally know an Antares saddle rep who became a saddle rep on a whim. She has no business fitting saddles to people, much less horses, and I’ve heard her say things that are just plain wrong (Ie. “Oh we won’t fit this to the pony, that doesn’t matter.”:eek:) Sounds like you had a bad rep who didn’t fit the saddle well, and unfortunately, there’s bad saddle reps in every saddle brand - I’ve run across saddle reps who incorrectly fit saddles many, many times. It’s much better to work with a true saddle fitter who isn’t associated with a brand. The independent saddle fitter will put you in the saddle that works for you and your horse, regardless of brand. Brand-affiliated reps are more concerned with getting you into their own saddles, and while there are some good ones, many have no business being saddle reps.[/QUOTE]

i had two frenchmen who were supposedly trained at the manufacturer. i was also in the highest volume area with supposedly the best people who do wellington in the winter. THe bottom line was the saddle didn’t work, and they tried to talk me into keeping it. told me it was all normal. so no it wasn’t the saddle itself, but i would say the company.

Thanks everyone, all good info! I have my eye on one. Gotta get the refund back for the one that didn’t work first.

I saw such atrocious “fitting” and “customer service” with the company that I will never buy anything from them. Which is not to say other saddle companies always get it right, they don’t-- but what I witness was a royal screwing of the likes I cannot support.

So my suggestion is that if you like the saddle, try to buy used from an outlet that offers a decent return/warranty policy and/or don’t spend more than you’re willing to lose. Hopefully it’ll work out. If it doesn’t, I would not expect the company to automatically stand behind the saddle.

If was doing big jumpers and wanted something that gave me that lock and load feeling, I would probably steer more towards a Devacoux. The ones I have sat in are much more of that type of ride, a bit more chair like, and encouraging a deeper seat.

I second the absolute velcro nature of the buffalo too :yes: It is unreal (especially when it is on the newer side)! I personally prefer a bit less around me, so they have never been my favorite ride, but when I am on one that I need that extra security on, I am thankful I have it!

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I saw such atrocious “fitting” and “customer service” with the company that I will never buy anything from them. Which is not to say other saddle companies always get it right, they don’t-- but what I witness was a royal screwing of the likes I cannot support.

So my suggestion is that if you like the saddle, try to buy used from an outlet that offers a decent return/warranty policy and/or don’t spend more than you’re willing to lose. Hopefully it’ll work out. If it doesn’t, I would not expect the company to automatically stand behind the saddle.[/QUOTE]

I appreciate the info, definitely buying used and not even for one particular horse. Good to know if I were though.

Used, it’s a different story. Especially if someone else check out and thumbs ups the saddle. New, never. Never would I deal with them EVER.