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I would really like to adopt, but I’m not finding anything in the age range I want. Dogs are all over 2-3 years, and although I have nothing wrong with getting an older dog, I definitely want a dog that will be around for a long time…[/QUOTE]
Not sure if you saw my note above, if you are in the CT/RI/MA area, my breeder has a nearly 2 year old bitch available.
Thank you so much! I’m delighted you like them. Actually I’m starting up the series again. There will be another new book coming out next year. 
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A couple of things… about adoption: back when I was very involved with the breed, the rescue groups affiliated with the Poodle clubs I belonged to always had waiting lists. We had many more people who wanted to adopt than we did Poodles needing homes. I’m not sure if that’s still true but, generally speaking, there are not a lot of purebred Poodles around looking for homes.
As for genetic testing, it’s really key to getting a healthy Poodle. As soon as a breeder tells you “I don’t test for that because I don’t have it in my line” you should quickly walk away and not look back.
All conscientious breeders test. They have to. No matter what you’re told, ask to see the actual results and certificates. It’s not an insult to look out for your own interests and any good breeder will be happy to show you. The bad ones are hoping that you’ll fall in love with a cute puppy and forget to do your due diligence.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. One of the reasons that I chose my breeder was that her husband was a vet. It was pretty cheap for her to test for everything, and re-test when needed.
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Thank you so much! I’m delighted you like them. Actually I’m starting up the series again. There will be another new book coming out next year. :)[/QUOTE]
Awesome! My daughters and I have read them all. We will be on the lookout!
Well, late to the thread too, but wanted to add my 2 cents…
…by bringing up the dreaded “doodle.”
I know, I know - it’s just a mutt - but I do have a blue Goldendoodle, and for the life of me I cannot see one bit of golden retriever in her! I never wanted a Poodle, mostly because our neighbors had some when I was young - the most yappiest dogs you’d ever not love to meet. But, my brother happened upon a wonderful Doodle, who is more GR than SP (sheds, big body type, block head and big nose, etc). When my beloved heart-dog passed, I decided to explore the doodles. I started looking at highly- recommended SP breeders - and happened upon a wonderful SP breeder, who’s daughter is a GR breeder. When the “fad doodles” started popping up, they resisted until they saw how nice the cross could be. So, they carefully examined all their pups to see which could potentially cross to make a great dog. And, so Penny entered my life. They did all kinds of genetic testing on her (eyes, hips, etc etc) and gave me a health guarantee, as well as a “bring back” lifetime clause.
As I said, I can’t find a lick of GR in her, and I LOVE every bit of her. She is a bit higher energy than my last dog, who was a Blue Tick Coonhound, but it’s nothing unmanageable. She’s a total lover, plays and protects my son and “her” cats, and protects our home. Verrrry easy to train, and verrrrry smart. She’s about 71# now and almost 3 years old.
Here is my Penny with her long hair:
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Here she is with her short hair:
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And here she is, in all her “hyper” glory:
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I will say, even though she’s a cross, she has totally changed my perspective and thoughts on SPs, and I imagine I will own an SP forever now.
Laurie, that’s great news! I can’t wait to read it.
Can’t take a female in. My parents have two male dogs and I’d be concerned about them getting along.
There is usually more a problem with same sex dogs getting along than with males and females. I guess it would depend on if your parents dogs were intact or not.
I try to stagger my dogs boy/girl. Right now I have b/g/b. I just lost a girl who was the eldest. Because there is 2-5 years between them in age they don’t feel competitive with each other.
I’ve seen the worst relationships between female dogs of the same age that don’t grow up together.
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There is usually more a problem with same sex dogs getting along than with males and females. I guess it would depend on if your parents dogs were intact or not.
I try to stagger my dogs boy/girl. Right now I have b/g/b. I just lost a girl who was the eldest. Because there is 2-5 years between them in age they don’t feel competitive with each other.
I’ve seen the worst relationships between female dogs of the same age that don’t grow up together.[/QUOTE]
I thought she meant the two dogs would fight if a female was present, not that they would fight with the female, which they should not.
If she is an adult and any dominant at all, they will naturally mind her, as dogs tend to do.
The two dogs may fight over the new resource, a female.
That can happen, especially if they are not neutered and she is not spayed and comes in heat.
Hmm, I was always told that males don’t tend to get along with females! I wasn’t really considering getting another dog until about a month ago, so I never really looked into the information. The boys do get along with females, they’re best friends with 2 lab girls, but I honestly never thought about getting a female.
Do there tend to be different personalities from male to female? I’m just thinking, because I never seem to get along with mares. :eek:
I’ll PM you IFG!
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Hmm, I was always told that males don’t tend to get along with females! I wasn’t really considering getting another dog until about a month ago, so I never really looked into the information. The boys do get along with females, they’re best friends with 2 lab girls, but I honestly never thought about getting a female.
Do there tend to be different personalities from male to female? I’m just thinking, because I never seem to get along with mares. :eek:
I’ll PM you IFG![/QUOTE]
As a general rule of thumb, realizing that it may not be so with every dog, as they are all individuals, the recommendation is to, if you have a male, get a female next, or the other way around.
As they mature, two dogs of the same sex, especially females, may get into bad fights and one may, in extreme cases, need rehoming.
Another concern is to never try to raise more than one puppy at the time, no matter what sex they are or if the are littermates or not, as two, if they are close to the same dominance level, will, as they mature, start having fights and if they can’t get away from each other, again the fights are so bad you may have to rehome one.
I have known several such cases where one was killed, the fights were so fierce.
One a neighbor that had two ACD puppies from the same litter, one finally killed the other in their yard as they hit three years old, very sad.
You can get by if, like breeders do, raise the puppies separate, just with play times together, but kept in different kennel runs and with individual attention and training.
Another neighbor had two three month old puppies of the same age dumped by his barn.
They didn’t look similar at all, but may have been siblings and after I warned him, he raised them taking one and then the other with himself and now, several years old, they are wonderful together.
That is the only ones I know that didn’t have problems, other than those raised by experienced trainers.
There is so much more we know today about how to raise and manage more than one dog, but in the end, it really comes down to common sense and a bit of good training and starting with compatible dogs of good temperament.
Also, some breeds are known more for aggression than others, poodles one breed you hardly ever have aggression problems, while with some terriers, you may have more dog to dog aggression than in other breeds.
Opposite sex get along great (and sometimes too great), but I see what you mean about a new female triggering competition among the boys. I think it depends on the individual dogs, and if they are intact or not.
I think a lot of the competition or conflict depends on the individual breeds involved, and the individual dogs. I’ve had a Min Pin puppy, with a one year old Min Schnauzer, and because the MS was laid back they got on very well. I also had a young male Min Schnauzer (about 3 years old) and my 9 year old female Min Schnauzer, and they were buddies. There was a big difference in energy levels, but they still got along great. I also know someone who had two Am Staff sisters/littermates, and periodically they would really get into it, and we suspected it was triggered by something that really frustrated them, and they went after each other.
Love, love, love my standard poodle! He’s the best dog I’ve ever had. He’s black, about 50 lbs and 11 months old. I got him from a breeder, not show dogs but breeds for temperament. The breeder uses his dogs for hunting. Mine points. He has a lot of energy, but not hyper. Plays when I want to play and just hangs out with us the rest of the time. Very smart, learns quickly. Loves everyone. He is a cuddlebug and a bit of a doofus. I would not say he is protective, maybe he will get that way when he’s older.
As a very general rule, the female Poodles tend to be smarter (and more opinionated, lol) and the males tend to be sweeter. If you try to sleep late one morning, a Standard dog will climb in bed with you. A bitch will tell you that she knows what time it is and that you ought to be up. 
FWIW, I lived for many years with between 4 and 6 Poodles in the house, many different combinations of (unneutered) males and (unspayed) females–they were all show dogs–as well as on two occasions keeping two puppies from the same litter and raising them together to adulthood and I never had any problems with fighting.
Could be that my Poodles were “special” but I doubt it. But they did all know for sure that I was alpha dog (except for one Mini, Jesse, who lived to be 17 and ruled the house from the moment of her arrival. Given the opportunity she probably could have given Obama a run for his money. :lol: ) But she wouldn’t have tolerated any fighting either.
Sorry for the misunderstanding…black poodles can have brown or green eyes, not that all black poodles have green eyes. There are all colors of poodles and multiple-colored poodles even.
Has anyone here shown poodles in an AKC Standard Poodle Breed show without papers before? I doubt it. Even puppies in the show ring have papers. I don’t think the OP is going to show, but please don’t give anyone the impression the you can show a rescue w/o papers in an AKC breed show.
To the OP - even if you are getting a free dog w/o papers, I’d recommend getting the hips tested if you want a dog who can run and jump without pain; standard poodles are so much fun. Best of luck to you!
Another reason not to get litter mates or puppies the same age is they will bond with each other over you. Usually one will be more dominant and they will look to each other for guidance, leadership rather than you.
In rescue I’ve seen adopters who had 2 dogs raised like that, and lost one. Now they want another buddy for the dog left behind. It seems like the one who died was the balanced, leader. So, when the rescue is introduced they expect things to be just like they had been but with 2 dogs who have no leader it usually goes to heck in a hand basket pretty quickly.
Undocked poodles?
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As a very general rule, the female Poodles tend to be smarter (and more opinionated, lol) and the males tend to be sweeter. If you try to sleep late one morning, a Standard dog will climb in bed with you. A bitch will tell you that she knows what time it is and that you ought to be up.
LOL, I never thought about this, but in the case of my 6 poodles, this is absolutely true! All my bitches did get me up (the current one still does), and my 2 dogs just kept me company in bed until I decided to get up.:lol:
I have a question about finding breeders willing to sell a pet-grade puppy with undocked tail - is that possible? Does anyone here know of a breeder who would not dock a puppy’s tail if they had such a request? I don’t want to have to import one from Europe, and I absolutely love my dog who has an undocked tail! He was a stray and came from a rescue, so I don’t know how to find another one.
Since the tails are docked so early, probably way to early to tell if it’s a pet grade pup, I’d say no.
But only guessing.
" A bitch will tell you that she knows what time it is and that you ought to be up.
LOL, I never thought about this, but in the case of my 6 poodles, this is absolutely true! All my bitches did get me up (the current one still does), and my 2 dogs just kept me company in bed until I decided to get up."
OMG…I so had to laugh at this comment…this is my girl ALL.THE.WAY! She tells me she has to go out, she tells me its dinner time or breakfast time, and she def wakes me up if I’ve overslept…actually there is no oversleeping in the morning because if I am late, she stands over me and barks very quietly in my ear to tell me to get up because she’s either hungry or needs to go out…Now Please! LOLOL.
The AKC will not let anything less than good or excellent in the show ring, that’s why hip certs are in the papers if you buy one with papers.
someone is scamming you big-time if they are telling you this.
The only requirements for AKC papers are that the parents both have AKC papers. AKC doesn’t have ANY health test requirements for issuing registration papers. NONE.
AKC also doesn’t have any health test requirements for what dogs go in the show ring. Or win in the show ring. Many a terribly unhealthy dog has won over and over again in the conformation ring. Keep in mind that dogs who win in the show ring are a) often quite young (hip symptoms and other diseases often don’t manifest until middle age), and b) only required to stand motionless, and then trot around for a couple of minutes. It’s not exactly a test of any physical or mental capabilities. Winning in the show ring doesn’t tell you much at all, in fact.
Hip certificates are NOT “in the papers” if you buy a pup with registration papers.
If you get a non-papered dog from a rescue, you can show the dog in practically any sport you enjoy participating in (except in conformation). There’s no rationale for showing a dog in conformation unless you hope to breed the dog, and if you don’t know the dog’s bloodlines and the health of the dog’s ancestors and relatives (aka most rescue dogs), I hope you’re not planning to breed your dog.
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