Tall boot recommendation for skinny kid with big feet!

I read the forums every night but rarely post. However, I have a question that surely someone here can help me with!

I have a student who is 12 years old. Great kid, great rider. She mostly shows a mare she’s bright along, largely on her own, in the jumpers. However, she does show IEA and has been taking a lesson horse in some medal classes.

This poor kid is 5’5", maybe 100-110lbs if she ate a lot that day, with long thin legs, and a size 11 foot. Buying tall boots has been a nightmare for this child. We are fortunate enough to be local to a Dover store and they’ve been somewhat helpful. They ordered her in a pair of tredsteps (I apologize I don’t know the model) in a size 11 with an extra tall, extra slim calf, that fit well enough for the level she shows. They promised when she bought them they wouldn’t break down, but here we are less than a month later and they’re too short.

Because she is 12, and her foot has grown by 2 sizes in the past year, mom and dad aren’t quite ready for customs. They realize this is where we are eventually heading, but we’re hoping to find something off the rack, and not as pricey before then.

Currently this young lady pays for a large chunk of her horse expenses with money she makes from a dog walking/training business she started, and if I’m not mistaken this pair of tall boots was something that was her responsibility to purchase.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a brand of tall boots that are reasonably affordable (less than custom), and come in a very slim, very tall calf, with a large foot? Or are we looking at having to go the custom route already? I’m at a loss helping her because I’m a very average 8 slim calf so buying tall boots has always been very easy for me!

My son has a very similar problem because he has adult sized feet and boy-sized legs/calves (he’s also close to 12). I ordered him a pair of women’s TuffRider Baroque field boots with slim calves, based on a recommendation of someone else at the barn. I think he’ll eventually wear men’s boots just fine once his calves fill out, but for now, hoping this will do.

My foot/calf combo isn’t quite as bad, but I feel her pain! I have size 9 feet and 33 cm calves, and have had luck with Parlantis. I actually fit into their Medium calf width, versus their slim, if that gives you an indication of how narrow they run (other slims in the normal brands are a joke at that foot size). Mine have not dropped much, either (I’m also a bit taller and long through the leg, and the height hasn’t been an issue for me).

They make an Essentials line that is in the $500 range, I believe.

I’m sorry to say but as a trainer, you should be ashamed of wasting this young student of yours her hard earned money on a pair of useless tall boots when it is LEGAL and TOTALLY FINE to wear paddocks and half chaps in jumpers, hunters and equitation/medal classes.

It’s one thing to buy tall boots when you want to/can buy them. It’s another thing when you think you have to buy them… This girl is 12 and will probably grow up until she’s 16 or so… And with her foot size, I bet she’d have to get new boots every 6 months… talk about some $$$$ loss…

Read your rules; USEF and IEA.

Rant over. Sorry.

ETA: Imagine all the money spent on boots that could have been used instead on your training program…

I once had a great trainer told me I had to buy a wooden trunk (800$) to match his and his students at shows. My Stanley trunk was a shame.
I told him my show budget was X$. I asked him if he prefered that this 800$ be spent on a trunk or put in his pocket as training fees. He chose to take my 800$.
Those wooden trunks were lovely, yet I think improving my riding skills is more important…

[QUOTE=alibi_18;8715697]
I’m sorry to say but as a trainer, you should be ashamed of wasting this young student of yours her hard earned money on a pair of useless tall boots when it is LEGAL and TOTALLY FINE to wear paddocks and half chaps in jumpers, hunters and equitation/medal classes.

It’s one thing to buy tall boots when you want to/can buy them. It’s another thing when you think you have to buy them… This girl is 12 and will probably grow up until she’s 16 or so… And with her foot size, I bet she’d have to get new boots every 6 months… talk about some $$$$ loss…

Read your rules; USEF and IEA.

Rant over. Sorry.

ETA: Imagine all the money spent on boots that could have been used instead on your training program…

I once had a great trainer told me I had to buy a wooden trunk (800$) to match his and his students at shows. My Stanley trunk was a shame.
I told him my show budget was X$. I asked him if he prefered that this 800$ be spent on a trunk or put in his pocket as training fees. He chose to take my 800$.
Those wooden trunks were lovely, yet I think improving my riding skills is more important…[/QUOTE]

At 5’5" I don’t know where you expect this kid to find jods long enough for her. My sister was maybe 5’2" in jods and we had to special order tailored sportsmans to fit her. Maybe try parlanti and boots made for men, they tend to have a larger foot and straighter profile.

[QUOTE=hunterrider23;8716628]
At 5’5" I don’t know where you expect this kid to find jods long enough for her. My sister was maybe 5’2" in jods and we had to special order tailored sportsmans to fit her. Maybe try parlanti and boots made for men, they tend to have a larger foot and straighter profile.[/QUOTE]

Half chaps.

They sell kid size 16 jodhpur at the store I work at for 60$… You haven’t looked pretty hard in stores to only have found TS.

And there are jodhpur for women…

[QUOTE=alibi_18;8715697]
I’m sorry to say but as a trainer, you should be ashamed of wasting this young student of yours her hard earned money on a pair of useless tall boots when it is LEGAL and TOTALLY FINE to wear paddocks and half chaps in jumpers, hunters and equitation/medal classes.

It’s one thing to buy tall boots when you want to/can buy them. It’s another thing when you think you have to buy them… This girl is 12 and will probably grow up until she’s 16 or so… And with her foot size, I bet she’d have to get new boots every 6 months… talk about some $$$$ loss…

Read your rules; USEF and IEA.

Rant over. Sorry.

ETA: Imagine all the money spent on boots that could have been used instead on your training program…
QUOTE]

Oh please, the poor kid would look ridiculous if she took your suggestion.

I was in a similar situation with my dd, size 10 foot and a 12" calf. I ordered Parlantis direct from Europe. Depending on the exchange rate they run between $500 and $700. Pricey I realize but none of the less expensive brands worked for us or provided the correct fit. No problems with dropping either. Good luck!

[QUOTE=alibi_18;8715697]
I’m sorry to say but as a trainer, you should be ashamed of wasting this young student of yours her hard earned money on a pair of useless tall boots when it is LEGAL and TOTALLY FINE to wear paddocks and half chaps in jumpers, hunters and equitation/medal classes.

It’s one thing to buy tall boots when you want to/can buy them. It’s another thing when you think you have to buy them… This girl is 12 and will probably grow up until she’s 16 or so… And with her foot size, I bet she’d have to get new boots every 6 months… talk about some $$$$ loss…

Read your rules; USEF and IEA.

Rant over. Sorry.

ETA: Imagine all the money spent on boots that could have been used instead on your training program… [/QUOTE]

Poor kid, she would look ridiculous if you take this suggestion.

I’ve had good luck with Parlantis for my size 10, 12 inch calf daughter. I ordered direct from Europe, depending on the exchange rate you’ll spend $500 to $700. Pricey, I know but you’ll get a good, functional fit that’s appropriate for a 12 year old showing a horse. Very little drop too.

[QUOTE=Lexus;8716791]
Poor kid, she would look ridiculous if you take this suggestion.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious?!? Or idiot?

I’ve had good luck with Parlantis for my size 10, 12 inch calf daughter. I ordered direct from Europe, depending on the exchange rate you’ll spend $500 to $700. Pricey, I know but you’ll get a good, functional fit that’s appropriate for a 12 year old showing a horse. Very little drop too.

When is the last time your 12yrs old daughter worked to pay her 700$ pair of boots?

Tredstep Medici in a 42 foot with the xtra slim calf! Regular height should be okay unless she is really tall as they run tall and narrow! The calf is 12.5 which is really small. Also about $400. Dover and smartpak carry them :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=alibi_18;8716691]
Half chaps.

They sell kid size 16 jodhpur at the store I work at for 60$… You haven’t looked pretty hard in stores to only have found TS.

And there are jodhpur for women…[/QUOTE]
If said child is showing in the rated divisions, she will be the only person in half chaps and jods. And if she’s going to wear half chaps anyways, why bother with jods when breeches are just fine.
A size 16 is much too large width wise and too stocky/short for someone with that height and low weight. My sister is built the same, tall and thing, they used to call her chopsticks.
Showing in the AAs in the large ponies, we weren’t going to get my sister your average stretchy tights style jod that they make for mostly saddle seat/recreational riders. It’d be a bigger waste.

[QUOTE=alibi_18;8716829]
Are you serious?!? Or idiot?

When is the last time your 12yrs old daughter worked to pay her 700$ pair of boots?[/QUOTE]

I’m serious of course and I know what I’m talking about.

The Tredsteps are nice if they’ll fit. They didn’t work for us, the fit just wasn’t right. We spent a lot of time trying every brand we could put dd’s legs into.

Speaking of brands, I have a pair of Fabbri boots (similar to Parlanti’s but lined) worn 3 times that I would be happy to measure and sell to you cheap (well below the price of the Tredsteps) if you’re interested. They are $1000 boots. My daughter didn’t like the feel of the lined calfs. PM if interested.

[QUOTE=hunterrider23;8716923]
If said child is showing in the rated divisions, she will be the only person in half chaps and jods.[/QUOTE]

And so what?! People are so ridiculous with trends and looks.
Judges look at the general outfit. They don’t have time to see the brand of your boots or pants…and if they do, you should really be concerned about your riding.

And if she’s going to wear half chaps anyways, why bother with jods when breeches are just fine.

I was not implying she should wear jods and half chaps… Of course the kid will need a pair of breeches to wear with half chaps.

A size 16 is much too large width wise and too stocky/short for someone with that height and low weight. My sister is built the same, tall and thin, they used to call her chopsticks.

I have fitted more than a few tall and thin kids in Irideon, Tuffrider or Elation. Yes, some needed alteration, but nothing a good seamstress couldn’t do.

Showing in the AAs in the large ponies, we weren’t going to get my sister your average stretchy tights style jod that they make for mostly saddle seat/recreational riders. It’d be a bigger waste.

Saddle seat jods and hunter jods are definitively not the same. But there are other solutions as your sister is not the only tall and thin kid in town and not everyone can/will spend +200$ for a pair of Kid TS breeches. Perfect and good for you if you want to spend that kind of money but realise that not everyone can or should be forced to do so.

The OP’s kid is not showing in the AA.
The OP’s kid is working to pay her boots.

I wore half chaps and paddocks in the AA here in Canada. Never got a comment. Even the BNT I rode with never realised I had half chaps until one evening when I was cleaning my “boots” and he passed by. We had a discussion about it and I won my case. Other of his riders do fine in Wellington every winter and you’d never know they also wear half chaps. Some others prefer tall boots.
We are all grown adults and can decide for ourselves. For kids, I find it really ridiculous to focus on unecessary tack trends and apparence (obviously, it needs to look good and clean but it doesn’t have to be Samshield/Parlanti/TS/Animo good) Good riding is what’s important and the only thing that will make you win.

[QUOTE=Lexus;8717024]
I’m serious of course and I know what I’m talking about. [/QUOTE]

Of course you know… :rolleyes:

Speaking of brands, I have a pair of Fabbri boots (similar to Parlanti’s but lined) worn 3 times that I would be happy to measure and sell to you cheap (well below the price of the Tredsteps) if you’re interested. They are $1000 boots. My daughter didn’t like the feel of the lined calfs. PM if interested.

I’m not the OP… and I don’t need your boots… the OP is looking for a cheap solution…

You also haven’t answered my question. Did your 12yrs old DD paid for her boots?

Alibi, who has a stick stuck so far up your butt that you’ve forgotten it’s there?

Not only have you scared OP away, but you apparently don’t know how to give advice in a fashion that isn’t rude and condescending.

You should poke around eBay. I wound up with a pair of not-even-broken-in Vogels that were made for my 12" calf for a song.

Also a good cobbler, while not cheap, can work wonders.

[QUOTE=hunterrider23;8717451]
Alibi, who has a stick stuck so far up your butt that you’ve forgotten it’s there?

Not only have you scared OP away, but you apparently don’t know how to give advice in a fashion that isn’t rude and condescending.[/QUOTE]

I’m definitively not the only one with a stick in the butt then…

Have you even bothered to read the OP?

You are talking about jods and others about expensive pair of boots when the OP is looking for inexpensive tall boots.

I’m actually the only one who suggested a real affordable alternative for this kid. Half chaps and paddocks. Affordable, show legal and easily replaced when needed as the kid grows.

OP’s 12yrs old kid is paying for her riding clothes.

I’m tired of trainers who force their students to buy uneccesary expensive tack/gear just for the sake of “winning”… If you have the money, go for it. If not, then there are good enough alternative that shouldn’t be seen as a disgrace for the sport from trainers and other riders.

And really if this is not condescending …

she will be the only person in half chaps …

Poor kid, she would look ridiculous if you take this suggestion.

[QUOTE=alibi_18;8717208]
Of course you know… :rolleyes:

I’m not the OP… and I don’t need your boots… the OP is looking for a cheap solution…

You also haven’t answered my question. Did your 12yrs old DD paid for her boots?[/QUOTE]

What difference does it make whether Lexus’ daughter paid for her own boots or not? That is nobody’s business but Lexus.

Alibi_18, you need a tranquilizer or a cocktail, calm down before you give yourself a stroke. Its really not worth all the stress. :slight_smile:

Thanks for all the suggestions! Right now she is just showing local and IEA but she wants to do some of the local A shows this summer. I’m not the type of trainer to require a certain brand or a pricey version of something for the name brand. But I am about correct turn out that doesn’t draw attention for the wrong reasons. She will be showing in tall boots and breeches.

I’m going to link her directly to this thread so she has them all in one place.

De Niros–they have a lot of sizing options for off the rack boots. I have a huge foot and skinny calf and they almost fit me like customs.

ETA: I ordered about 4 pair from smartpak and just sent back what didn’t fit. So if you don’t have a deniro dealer nearby, this is a good option. I also got the “softer leather” option and they were easier to break in. I’ve had them 3 years and they still are in really good shape (I ride 3x week)https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/deniro-ottaviano-aurora-field-boot-8847