[B] Tell Congress to Pass the SAFE Act Banning Horse Slaughter
[/B]No thanks.
I’d much rather see you spend your time more wisely, by campaigning for humane slaughter.
The fact is they won’t be convinced there is any other option other than slaughter no matter what evidence you present them with
Her only suggestion was to GIVE each returning Vet a horse…to help them re adjust and provide a home for a horsey
I have to wonder where it’s all going to go should they manage to reopen slaughter for horses. I know I will no longer be consuming any form of red meat and I’m already very fussy about what the dogs and cats get fed. As always, the only way to end this mess once and for all is to get the SAFE Act passed.
Here you go folks…the 'AGENDA" of veganism
I guess I was silly to assume that Slaughterhouse Sue may tone down her inner fishwife long enough to actually prepare for the impending court case that she is a part of. At the very least, and perhaps worse, I assumed that she would be busy touching herself in places most of us would rather not imagine while moaning `mmmm….horse meat’
Absolute crudness…very low life and when a person has to resort to this kind of talk…they are only appealing to the very bottom of her forum readers.
Once again, Suey and the horse eaters seem to be quite unable to see things beyond the end of their snotty noses. For those of you that don’t know, the native support Suey has managed to drum up in her quest to slaughter equines is the Confederated Tribes of the Yakama Nation
[I]In Canada horses WERE eaten during the tough years and the native tribes up here do support equine slaughter and have for years.
The same with the tribes in the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, Arizona Idaho–The Nez Pearce…founders of the original TALL Appaloosa used to eat the hearts of their horses killed in battle. It was to give bravery and speed to the human. This is from the Wyatt family, founders of the Appaloosa Horse Club of Canada and also the founder of the U.S. club at Moscow Idaho George Hatley[/I]
What’s the matter, “Elder” … er, I mean “Fairfax”… has that mean ol’ Shedrow offended your delicate sensibilities yet again? :winkgrin:
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What’s the matter, “Elder” … er, I mean “Fairfax”… has that mean ol’ Shedrow offended your delicate sensibilities yet again? :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]
It certainly is offensive. If you can’t get your point across without attacking someones personal sexuality or being crass and macabre then it is certain the platform your standing on is tenuous at best.
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We have all been posting this tidbit on pretty much every thread about slaughter. I have yet to see it be acknowledged…
I guess some people only comprehend something they feel they can argue about. There’s no arguing that can be done with this one so it’s left lone.[/QUOTE]
Agreed that U.S. horses are still being sent to slaughter outside of the U.S. What is the plan for these horses when the transport to be processed is outlawed? A simple there is no plan admission would suffice.
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It certainly is offensive. If you can’t get your point across without attacking someones personal sexuality or being crass and macabre then it is certain the platform your standing on is tenuous at best.[/QUOTE]
??? Elder referred to the chief of the Native American tribe. I think you might be reading more into it than is there.
I’ve not seen that blog before. Interesting. I did see the John Holland article, but in a completely different format.
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??? Elder referred to the chief of the Native American tribe. I think you might be reading more into it than is there.
I’ve not seen that blog before. Interesting. I did see the John Holland article, but in a completely different format.[/QUOTE]
I don’t think she was talking about Abercrombie’s inelloquent post, but the dribble Fairfax referred to.
Of course you would see it different…
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Agreed that U.S. horses are still being sent to slaughter outside of the U.S. What is the plan for these horses when the transport to be processed is outlawed? A simple there is no plan admission would suffice.[/QUOTE]
Why would I admit to something that isn’t true? There are alternatives, including ones that don’t involve tax payer’s money. At one time or another they have been posted. Do a search and you will also discover most of the regular pro slaughter folks like to find fault with them.
But guess what? When the ban is final, all horse people will have to work together to find a way to help the horses. Unless of course you decide to stand on the sidelines and observe because you refuse to believe there are alternatives.
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I don’t think she was talking about Abercrombie’s inelloquent post, but the dribble Fairfax referred to.
Of course you would see it different…[/QUOTE]
Ala is correct I was referring to the paragraphs provided from the blog. Drivel is a great word for it.
P.S. The plant in Iowa has dropped its plans to open a horse slaughter plant as of today.
Awesome! My senator, Lindsey Graham, is a sponsor. 
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Why would I admit to something that isn’t true? There are alternatives, including ones that don’t involve tax payer’s money. At one time or another they have been posted. Do a search and you will also discover most of the regular pro slaughter folks like to find fault with them.
But guess what? When the ban is final, all horse people will have to work together to find a way to help the horses. Unless of course you decide to stand on the sidelines and observe because you refuse to believe there are alternatives.[/QUOTE]
I distinctly remember your suggestions.
One was from the scummy forum which you took it from…EACH VETRAN of the war (Afghanistan) etc GETS A FREE HORSEY
It will help with their rehab especially if they have no legs, arms or vision and gosh…someone will pay for it to be kept at a facility…oh…wait…that is the tax payer…and did anyone ask EACH vetrans,disabled or not if they want a horse?
NOPE…
But my favourite from Jenm was…lets turn them all onto the enormous pastures that the cattle ranchers STEAL from the tax payer and abuse by over grazing for their horrible slaughter cattle that only they make money from.
The horsey’s could be Flicka…Born Free…you know… where the kind benevolent Mother Nature provides for them. Always a clear bubbling brook and green pastures…straight from The Lord is My Shepard.
The fact is they won’t be convinced there is any other option other than slaughter no matter what evidence you present them with
I have to wonder where it’s all going to go should they manage to reopen slaughter for horses. I know I will no longer be consuming any form of red meat and I’m already very fussy about what the dogs and cats get fed. As always, the only way to end this mess once and for all is to get the SAFE Act passed.
I guess I was silly to assume that Slaughterhouse Sue may tone down her inner fishwife long enough to actually prepare for the impending court case that she is a part of. At the very least, and perhaps worse, I assumed that she would be busy touching herself in places most of us would rather not imagine while moaning `mmmm….horse meat’
Once again, Suey and the horse eaters seem to be quite unable to see things beyond the end of their snotty noses. For those of you that don’t know, the native support Suey has managed to drum up in her quest to slaughter equines is the Confederated Tribes of the Yakama Nation
Whoops…she forgot about what are they going to eat all winter in ten feet of snow unless the TAX PAYER pays employment fees, government inspection fees and for gosh sakes…TAX PAYER gets to pay for the feed.
Oh…wait…we have INDIANS with SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND HORSES who are doinbg that and they are destroying the land…starving…and the tax payer is going to have to pay for them throught the Department of Indian Affairs
You suggested gelding clinics…and euthanization clinics…both GREAT IDEAS… so WHY AREN’T THEY IN PLACE…ah…cause…like…I mean…you know…NO MONEY and only a few people are going to do this for free. BUT if the government takes the $65,000 for two FSIS inspectors they can turn that money into clinics…
How do they get the horses there? Well,m the same way they take them to the auction…however brokers travel the country side and run ads in magazines …will pay cash and pick the horse up.
I have continued to say I will support ANY alternative that will save all 100,000 plus horses per year IF it does not cost the tax payer…but they boo hoo hoo and then shut down for a week and them come back again saying you don’t like my suggestions…
Oh…they want to ban or license breeders…owners…and have HSUS or PETA control the money for forever homes…they like that one…
There are a lot of horses out there…I suggest we keep slaughter AS AN OPTION or a piece of the equine population solution
I would be more impressed and willing to listen IF these rara types and their groupies actually set up 50 clinics…and HSUS was providing the seed money for it. They would have my attention then…but I am not going to hold my breath.
There was a “newbie” on ABN trying to get dialogue going regarding implementation of a stallion license…a license for each foal…pretending she was a new comer (9 posts) and she met these really dumb people who were of course over producing and she thought that would help. Gosh…Wayne has these rara members everywhere…
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Why would I admit to something that isn’t true? There are alternatives, including ones that don’t involve tax payer’s money. At one time or another they have been posted. Do a search and you will also discover most of the regular pro slaughter folks like to find fault with them.
But guess what? When the ban is final, all horse people will have to work together to find a way to help the horses. Unless of course you decide to stand on the sidelines and observe because you refuse to believe there are alternatives.[/QUOTE]
I volunteer my truck to haul them to your house…
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What’s the matter, “Elder” … er, I mean “Fairfax”… has that mean ol’ Shedrow offended your delicate sensibilities yet again? :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]
Abercrombie…how is my favourite stalker doing?
Fairfax,
I’m trying to read your posts but it’s difficult sometimes to parse out what you’re actually saying and what you’re quoting from somewhere else.
Could you please use the quote button/tag? Looks like this: {quote}text you’re quoting{/quote} (except with square brackets instead of curly braces).
Even using quotation marks would help. In your last post, I was really surprised at what you were saying before I realized that most of it appears to be quoting from somewhere else.
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I volunteer my truck to haul them to your house…[/QUOTE]
How about to the houses of, you know, the actual owners?
Since I’m sure you subscribe to the idea of ‘personal responsibility’ and all…
Just a thought.
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P.S. The plant in Iowa has dropped its plans to open a horse slaughter plant as of today.
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And they are going to slaughter cattle instead.
Oh wait, HSUS et al will file a lawsuit to prevent them from that as well. :lol:
Jemn…since you are happy about Iowa…tell us all
What are your solutions. Shedrow claims they have them but we aren’t listening. John Holland stated there are more than enough homes…and he can prove it…but he couldn’t prove it from 2008 to present…except give a horse to a vetran…you and Angela claim you have SOLUTIONS for ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND HORSES…homes in 12 months…blind horses, nasty horses, killer horses, lame horses, and just unwanted horses…lets hear these “it won’t cost the tax payer a penny solutions”
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How about to the houses of, you know, the actual owners?
Since I’m sure you subscribe to the idea of ‘personal responsibility’ and all…
Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
Slaughter is a personal responsibility. It is not against the law…to take a horse to an auction or sell it from your pasture to a broker…if you don’t want it, can’t afford it…you don’t just lead it to the woods and turn it loose. You take action…you might use a vet and euthanize IF you can afford that and the rendering fee…you might get a gun and shut it and bury it in your field if it isn’t against water conservation or the law…or you might send it to an auction. ALL are responsible. Just because you don’t like one doesn’t mean the person is not accoujable.
Remember the era when stay a home Moms hated those selfish women who actually farmed their kids out to day care and got a job… They were not responsible because they were not doing what the stay at home Mom was doing.
Like slaughter plants…some daycares were great and some were awful. Some Moms were great and some were awful. Just because a woman stayed at home did not make her a great Mom.
I remember when they wanted to have parents apply for a license to have kids…circa 1955…Remember the hatred and or pity against working mom’s directed to them by “Real Women”
It is all about making others do what YOU see fit.
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And they are going to slaughter cattle instead.
Oh wait, HSUS et al will file a lawsuit to prevent them from that as well. :lol:[/QUOTE]
They already are suing the pork and beef associations, the HSUS is on a roll, they said so at the first of the year, this was the year they would unleash all kinds of attacks on all we do with animals.
Seems they were right.
