Tell me your Pentosan success stories!

[jm2]

My mare had her third shot last Thursday. We are currently re-habbing several muscle injuries and were on walk only orders though last Friday. (my mare walked over my old horse’s grave and it gave way and her right front sank down over 2 feet! She did quite the number on her pecs, ascending and descending pecs and abductors)

Anyhoo - I got on her Friday and she was BEGGING to do more than walk. I let her try and trot a few times, but brought her back to walk. Rode her again yesterday and I think she really feels good. Not so much still in the muscle groups, but boy was she ever pushing from behind in the walk. Overtracking at least 8 inches. We were able to start back trotting and even though she still has occassional head bobbing from the muscles, she was REALLY hot to trot! (I was told she would head bob now and then and to keep working her through it - which the mare did. Just don’t want anyone flaming me for riding her. I am under orders! )

So I can’t be 100% sure what I am seeing/feeling, but she sure feels good!

[Graymaresrule]

cautiously optimistic

Sophie also had her third shot on Thursday and seems somewhat better. She wasn’t particularly forward on the lunge though it might have been because I wasn’t lunging her under tack, just with a halter and swinging the end of the lunge line at her, not something I make a habit of doing. She was a bit uneven but not bobbing her head with every stride.

I’ll ride her when it stops raining.

[MadViolet]

Did BumbleBee get her order yet?
(I’m in Ontario too and dying to know!)

[Pippigirl]

[QUOTE=MadViolet;6329060]
Did BumbleBee get her order yet?
(I’m in Ontario too and dying to know!)[/QUOTE]

Lol! I’m curious too!

[tpup]

What is the difference between Pentosan and PentAussie? Anyone know?

[bugsynskeeter]

PentAussie has glucosamine added to it. http://ivs.sg/pentaussie/

[Jeito]

[QUOTE=bugsynskeeter;6334434]
PentAussie has glucosamine added to it. http://ivs.sg/pentaussie/[/QUOTE]

Pentaussie is marketed as a surgical lavage and not for IM use. The IM version of Pentosan with glucosamine is called Pentosan Gold.

[jennywho]

I made my second order to horseprerace today. The first one arrived much quicker than I expected no problems whatsoever.

I initially decided to try pentosan on my old mare because even on gastroguard she had begun to refuse her bute and there’s no way I am chasing a 28yo crippled mare around every day to shove bute down her throat. She has had 2 shots of the loading dose so far and is just as comfortable as she was on a gram of bute a day. I am interested to see how she is once the loading doses are finished.

In the meantime I figured why not try it on my trainwreck of a yearling filly. So, since it is cheaper through wedgewood I went to my vet. “Shocking” he had never heard of it but he DID agree to look into it. He “nicely” offered to get it for me at the cost of $60 shot. WTF? I told him that was robbery and he said that he was actually doing me a favor that the drug wasn’t labled for that use (I told him I wanted to use it in place of adequan) and the reason you could get it so cheap through wedgewood is that they were selling a compounded version. It’s his policy to not write scripts for compounded medications after the selenium/polo pony debacle. Again WTF?

Anyhow I snarkily gave him a thanks anyways and went and ordered some for my filly through horseprerace.

I am really glad for this thread as I had recently read an article in the thoroughbred times about pentosan and was hoping to learn more. COTH to the rescue again.

If it heals up my filly I will become a true believer.

[jennywho]

I wanted to add that the vet did tell me that studies using pentosan at CSU showed a higher than normal incidence of injection site reactions and white hairs at the injection site. I responded with thank god for sharpies. But in all seriousness, something to be conscious of.

[jennywho]

If you go to wedgewoods website and type in pentosan, there are some great articles about it on there.

[LookinSouth]

@Discobold;6334449

Pentaussie is marketed as a surgical lavage and not for IM use. The IM version of Pentosan with glucosamine is called Pentosan Gold.

Actually that is not correct. PentAussie IS FDA approved as a surgical lavage but it is also being prescribed off label for IM use by some veterinarians instead of Pentosan. PentAussie is Pentosan Polysulfate and N-Acetyl glucosamine. So yes, it is the exact same thing as “Pentosan” with the addition of Glucosamine. It is however quite a bit more expensive than Pentosan ordered through wedgewood. PentAussie is only available through veterinarians and the cost of the 4 shot loading dose is comparable to a loading dose of Adequan.

[Jeito]

[QUOTE=LookinSouth;6335869]
Actually that is not correct. PentAussie IS FDA approved as a surgical lavage but it is also being prescribed off label for IM use by some veterinarians instead of Pentosan.[/QUOTE]

Actually, what I said is 100% correct. It is marketed as a surgical lavage. That doesn’t mean some vets don’t prescribe it for IM use. Pentaussie and Pentosan Gold (for IM use) are made by the same company in Australia. The active ingredients are identical and, for all I know, the inactive ingredients are also identical, but they’re marketed for different uses

[LookinSouth]

@Discobold;6336493

Actually, what I said is 100% correct. It is marketed as a surgical lavage. That doesn’t mean some vets don’t prescribe it for IM use. Pentaussie and Pentosan Gold (for IM use) are made by the same company in Australia. The active ingredients are identical and, for all I know, the inactive ingredients are also identical, but they’re marketed for different uses

I guess I misunderstood your point. Sorry! I understand that is is marketed as a surgical lavage. But the a poster had asked what the difference between Pentosan and PentAussie is and you mentioned that PentAussie is not for IM use (or not marketed for IM use) and to me that made it sound like it could not be used IM, which is not accurate. Alot of vets have been using it IM off label successfully.

[HorsesinHaiti]

Have people noticed a difference between results for horses with age-related ‘all over’ arthritis, and arthritis resulting from a specific injury? Pentosan sounds like it would be doable for Hoover, who has an old hip injury that shows signs of arthritis.

[candico]

My horse certainly felt better all over, but we started with Shockwave therapy all over, then the loading dose of Pentosan and Cosequin ASU. My vet says she is getting rave reviews back from old timers who were having a hard time getting up from rolling, etc. so probably worth a try!

[Laurierace]

How on earth do you do shockwave therapy “all over?”

[Graymaresrule]

It took 4 doses but Sophie is going sound and eager to work

[BoyleHeightsKid]

@carolprudm;6347439

It took 4 doses but Sophie is going sound and eager to work

Yay!!! We need a happy dance icon!

[candico]

Laurierace, it seems like all over, but mainly the joints he tended to show stiffness in: the facets of the spine, especially toward the SI, the neck, poll, and in his case of ringbone/navicular in the front, we targeted those. We have targeted the SI only when he was having trouble having to poop under saddle - seemed inflammation in that area were impinging on the nerves that concerned parts of his colon. Actually, both acupuncture and SW helped that, but Sarapin injections had the most lasting results, 8 - 12 months. FWIW. Turned his giant, malformed rhino poop piles into more normal volumes of fecal balls. TMI?

[JSwan]

[QUOTE=carolprudm;6347439]
It took 4 doses but Sophie is going sound and eager to work[/QUOTE]

Wow!!! Wonderful wonderful news!!!

Kent Allen treated by Irish horse and recommended Pentosan twice a month for him, instead of once a month. Just FYI as you start working her.

I’m really happy she’s doing better.