if you call the register of deeds in Bedford County they may be able to tell you or go to Calsonic Arena .com ormaybe you can call Tim Boyle 931-684-5915 exit 151.
Hope this helps you in your quest.
to answer one of your queries the Industrial Development Board of Shelbyville ran part of it in 2012.
so I have been told.
Perhaps someone already knows the answer, save me a long distance call?
News
the alphabet soup of the TWH world has a up and coming new member,are you ready for this hope you are not holding your breath.
its PHA = Performance Horse Assoc. all of the 13 member board are from the other alphabet groups ie TWHSO.
Now the question is how are they going to muddy the water.they have to hurryif they want to stop HR6388
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Perhaps someone already knows the answer, save me a long distance call?[/QUOTE]
As far as I understand, the Calsonic is owned by the City of Shelbyville. At least that’s what I’ve been told.
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News
the alphabet soup of the TWH world has a up and coming new member,are you ready for this hope you are not holding your breath.
its PHA = Performance Horse Assoc. all of the 13 member board are from the other alphabet groups ie TWHSO.
Now the question is how are they going to muddy the water.they have to hurryif they want to stop HR6388[/QUOTE]
Well, the four HIOs that are making the PHA are the four HIOs who have received decertification letters from the USDA.
But here’s the thing: as far as I understand, the USDA is no longer accepting new HIOs. I don’t see how they’re going to get away with this.
So good to see you again aarpaso. I want this to be in your lifetime and mine. Had me worried, you did!
Thanks hurleycane
I have a question,if you showed in performance classes @ the Celebration in 2012,can ya go to the March TWHBEA PHA meeting?
maybe NOT!
gonna be trouble folks it ain’t over.
Now this is really worth watching,a great video very very informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJFD278XRMA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Agreed, aarpaso. I wish that I had been invited and able to ask questions!
Two questions that posters here might be able to answer:
Why are flat shod horses banded?
The presenter talks about the proposed legislation outlawing 6 of the eight divisions. Is that a fair assessment or are 6 of the divisions going to have certain action devices outlawed: the divisions may continue?
Not a TWH person myself, but I would suggest that if the participants at that clinic can be identified a few TWH owners who agree with the proposed legislation send them a letter giving the facts as they know them to be. Just a thought.
correct me if im wrong folks.
but its my understanding the bands are on the flat shod due to the length of the toe.if the weight of the shoe is great the hoof can and does break off at that band in some cases,these are called action devices.
only those folks that do not use pads and or action devices will show is my guess.
this whole video is just another way for TWHNC to try and get folks to back them.
Ugh… Awful to watch and worse to listen to. The distortion on the feet of the horses in this video is really sad. Even on the non-stacked black. But goodness the movement of the stacked horse is bad.
I will leave it at that.
Other than to add very disappointed that Hannah Pulvers participated in this.
Very.
Yes you are right on the bands aarpaso. Bands are done to overcome bad angles, heavy shoes, poor hoof quality and too high a stack.
Nasty stuff - these people are blind and ignorant.
SHOW HIO manages The Calsonic.
SHOW HIO runs the TWH Celebration.
Is it ok to write a check to the devil himself?
I cannot be the only person who recalls NWHA’s big ‘screw you TN, we’re goin’ North!’ only to find that the party didn’t travel well? So they are very quietly back…and in bed with the devil himself? And that’s …peachy?
[QUOTE=aarpaso;6862831]
correct me if im wrong folks.
but its my understanding the bands are on the flat shod due to the length of the toe.if the weight of the shoe is great the hoof can and does break off at that band in some cases,these are called action devices.
only those folks that do not use pads and or action devices will show is my guess.
this whole video is just another way for TWHNC to try and get folks to back them.[/QUOTE]
You are correct. The band is there to hold a heavy, Plantation shoe on the foot. Hoof tissue is not strong enough to hold a48 oz. shoe no matter what kind of nail you use. Toe length is irrelevant, however; it’s all about weight.
A Plantation shoe is an action device. It’s just one without moving parts.
The band can be used as a soring agent if it is too tight. That is an HPA violation.
G.
Just watched the Mike Inman video. What a twisted world those people live in, believing there’s nothing wrong with their shoeing practices.
None of those horses was born with a running walk, they all step-paced, although the grey did a few steps of a running walk. Take off the shoes and pads and they’d all pace. A head nod and back-end stride does not make a running walk. Either he’s lying or he has no clue what a running walk is.
Nothing bad would happen if those classes were removed. People who wanted to show would find other classes to compete in. Mike Inman kept talking as if the TWH was the only gaited breed in the world. Just makes him look even more ridiculous.
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Just watched the Mike Inman video. What a twisted world those people live in, believing there’s nothing wrong with their shoeing practices.
None of those horses was born with a running walk, they all step-paced, although the grey did a few steps of a running walk. Take off the shoes and pads and they’d all pace. A head nod and back-end stride does not make a running walk. Either he’s lying or he has no clue what a running walk is.
Nothing bad would happen if those classes were removed. People who wanted to show would find other classes to compete in. Mike Inman kept talking as if the TWH was the only gaited breed in the world. Just makes him look even more ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. There is so much wrong information here. I guess one thing we can see that is positive about this is there aren’t many people there listening to this garbage.
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SHOW HIO manages The Calsonic.
SHOW HIO runs the TWH Celebration.
Is it ok to write a check to the devil himself?
I cannot be the only person who recalls NWHA’s big ‘screw you TN, we’re goin’ North!’ only to find that the party didn’t travel well? So they are very quietly back…and in bed with the devil himself? And that’s …peachy?[/QUOTE]
I have to say I agree with you, katarine. I don’t agree with the direction NWHA has gone at all. I personally no longer support any HIO because none of them are no longer for the horse. They’re ALL self-serving. I’ve dropped my memberships from both FOSH and NWHA. The only thing I can give them myself is they have their no-tolerance policy. But both HIOs have made recent choices that no longer uphold what their original intent was, and I don’t agree with them anymore.
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You are correct. The band is there to hold a heavy, Plantation shoe on the foot. Hoof tissue is not strong enough to hold a48 oz. shoe no matter what kind of nail you use. Toe length is irrelevant, however; it’s all about weight.
A Plantation shoe is an action device. It’s just one without moving parts.
The band can be used as a soring agent if it is too tight. That is an HPA violation.
G.[/QUOTE]
You know, what’s funny is I went to the Scottsdale Arabian horse show over the weekend and watched the Saddle seat championship classes. I watched both the Arab and Half-Arab Classes for each championship division. NONE of the horses had bands on. Some were wearing a slight wedge, but they all had shoes on that clearly fit their feet and there were no bands. These horses stepped lively and actually looked good.
The TWH industry has come to rely on them and use them as tools to help sore their horses. There is absolutely no need for them in the real horse world.
G you are not correct this time. An out of balance shoe on a poorly trimmed foot will be just as hard to keep on as a heavy shoe. Those toes that jut out 2 inches in front of a dish in a foot will come right off without a band.
And Malda - I agree about the lack of walking. My connect was slow and at times all I could hear was foot fall. The 1.2-3.4 is what I heard on the grey. The waddling side to side of the black was dramatic and not at all graceful. How can they justify this stuff? How?
What is the word we “mean” people use - bastardized?
And is the speaker Inman? They ran out of $$?
Tuff ta-tas.
And time to question Mr Crawthorn and NWHA. My guess us the USEF legitimacy and more show $$ is what pulls them together.
Just want to add kudos to all those who stay joined to these organizations. Like Nate. ANd it is not a disrespect against those that walked away from these groups. As I see it, being able to stick to your beliefs and be a part of the general society that oversees your activity/business/lifestyle takes a lot of character, commitment and willingness to move ahead. And my guess is being willing to be subject to the difficulties of participation in such a group will build these traits if you lack them.
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