Thanks for the effort

[RainWeasley]

I can’t believe i missed all of this.

Also, in my experience from being around a ton of incredibly intelligent, knowledgeable people (engineers, physicists, doctors, literal rocket scientists), people that are really knowledgeable about a subject don’t try to throw around words and phrases to make people think they are smart. If anything, they will try to dumb it down so everyone can understand.

My entire impression of OP is someone trying to sound like they are really smart when they really don’t know that much.

[Fellbutbackup]

@IPEsq

Wow…how did I miss this thread? This has been entertaining.

But sort of on topic… I don’t think that KER would use hydrogenated oil in its hind gut supplement if hydrogenated oils were bad for the hind gut. But of course its main purpose is to get the active ingredient to the hind gut. https://ker.com/equinews/answer/hydrogenated-fats-equine-diets/

The link also discusses reasons why you might choose one type of fat for other purposes, like palatability.

This study compared saturated vs unsaturated fats: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10659301/
“In conclusion, no apparent adverse effects of feeding a diet supplemented with either an unsaturated or saturated vegetable oil for 6 months at approximately 20% DE after 10 months at approximately 12% DE were identified and there were no apparent disadvantages of feeding a saturated vegetable oil supplemented diet compared with an unsaturated one.”

Most prilled/non-liquid fat supplements are hydrogenated vegetable oil. There are plenty of high saturated fat liquid products out there too, like the ones that contain coconut oil.

Horses are also more efficient at digesting carbohydrates and fats for energy (less so for protein). So, if you want to avoid a lot of grains in the diet but need more energy, feeding a higher fat diet is a good way to get that energy without feeding a high grain diet that could potentially cause hind gut acidosis.

I read that study. Unfortunately the conclusion you have drawn from that study is not correct.

Regardless with a sample size of eight, no conclusion can be drawn.

[cutter99]

Y’all realize the OP seems like a reincarnation of a recently banned poster, right? One who had other incarnations as well!

[Fellbutbackup]

@RainWeasley

I can’t believe i missed all of this.

Also, in my experience from being around a ton of incredibly intelligent, knowledgeable people (engineers, physicists, doctors, literal rocket scientists), people that are really knowledgeable about a subject don’t try to throw around words and phrases to make people think they are smart. If anything, they will try to dumb it down so everyone can understand.

I agree with this in a general sense. However, I have zero tolerance for those simply parroting ideas and terms without proper understanding, and drawing “conclusions” that lack accuracy. Though that is reality on an internet forum, apparently. Further supported the travesty of your community’s current events forum.

[Simkie]

Oh, christ, she’s BACK. Lookit what you all have done :uhoh::uhoh:

So, fellbutbackup, what does the spirit realm say about oil this time…? Because we all know you’re certainly not referencing any published literature…

[IPEsq]

@Fellbutbackup

I read that study. Unfortunately the conclusion you have drawn from that study is not correct.

Regardless with a sample size of eight, no conclusion can be drawn.

I did not draw the conclusion. I quoted the conclusion written by the authors of the study.

[mmeqcenter]

:lol:

[kaya842]

This has been good fun while sidelined due to a pinched nerve :lol:

[JB]

@Fellbutbackup

I read that study. Unfortunately the conclusion you have drawn from that study is not correct.

Regardless with a sample size of eight, no conclusion can be drawn.

Still can’t read for comprehension huh?

She QUOTED the conclusion. She didn’t do anything but quote that part of the study. I’m sure the authors would love for you to tell them how wrong they are.

What IS the conclusion then, if the authors are so wrong? I’ll wait :yes:

[TheJenners]

Someone want to let me in on who the reincarnation is?

[Dutchmare433]

@TheJenners

Someone want to let me in on who the reincarnation is?

Ditto, please!

[KBC]

Me three

[MLOaks]

This isn’t what I read at all. In fact, I saw a very scary study that revealed that unless you use extra virgin oils, you risk giving Dobbin various unsavory communicable diseases which might embarrass him.

It’s TRUE! Really! I saw it in a real scientific journal. The absolutely reliable Magikal Kolor Horse Breeders Research and Hoarding Journal. So it must be true.

[Old_Mac_Donald]

I think Fell might be the reincarnation of Nicky P at this point. Maybe running every post through a Dr Spock babel fish “snoot-later”.

[Ghazzu]

@Old Mac Donald

I think Fell might be the reincarnation of Nicky P at this point. Maybe running every post through a Dr Spock babel fish “snoot-later”.

Nah. It’s above NP’s grammatical rating.

[Old_Mac_Donald]

@Ghazzu

Nah. It’s above NP’s grammatical rating.

You’re right. Not even the Babel Fish is that good.
How about the young lady from Chicago, who couldn’t work due to multiple severe and debilitating conditions… but could show-jump, wanted a vastly expensive and imported horse for peanuts, then argued with every poster who suggested anything. She had at least one new identity on here.

For anyone wondering, the horse got sold and COTH got blamed for it! After waxing lyrical about the horse being her heart horse.

[JB]

@TheJenners

Someone want to let me in on who the reincarnation is?

@Dutchmare433

Ditto, please!

@KBC

Me three

For you guys wondering ^^

I’ll just leave it here shrug

@Mara

Could Fell be a reincarnation of Palm Beach?

The latter seemed to really have a real (and inexplicable) grudge against JB.

@Amy3996

Glad I’m not the only one thinking it. I had wondered where Palm Beach disappeared to. :lol:

@Obsidian Fire

:lol::lol::lol: I too wondered about a reincarnation of PB.

and BTW @Amy3996 Palm Beach was banned.

[Fellbutbackup]

@IPEsq

I did not draw the conclusion. I quoted the conclusion written by the authors of the study.

Did you read the actual parameters of the study? It has nothing to do with hind gut or carbohydrates. A conclusion stating there are “no adverse effects” does not mean a blanket lack of adverse effects. It only means no tested negative effects. There is no study that tests all potential adverse effects.

Drawing any other conclusion from a study other than whats tested is faulty and what apparently is chronofhorse forum approved “science.”

Amazing really.

[ThreeWishes]

Beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice

[Fellbutbackup]

@JB

For you guys wondering ^^

I’ll just leave it here shrug

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt